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I really do try my best to obey Luke 6:37 except in those cases when the exception to the rule (Isaiah 54:17) requires that I condemn a person.
 

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First there is Limited Atonement, the idea that Christ died for only a select few.

Then there is Unconditional Election, the concept that God chooses people for salvation not based on their decision to receive or reject Christ.

Tell me how the latter doctrine does not teach that god arbitrarily chooses who He will redeem and not redeem?
 
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'Of these things put them in remembrance,
charging them before the Lord
that they strive not about words to no profit,
but to the subverting of the hearers.

Study to shew thyself approved unto God,
a workman that needeth not to be ashamed,
rightly dividing the word of truth.

But shun profane and vain babblings:
for they will increase unto more ungodliness.
And their word will eat as doth a canker:... '

(2 Timothy 2:14)

* Please stop hurting one another, for it is the Holy Spirit you are grieving.
 

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'Let no corrupt communication proceed out of your mouth,
but that which is good to the use of edifying,
that it may minister grace unto the hearers.

And grieve not the holy Spirit of God,
whereby ye are sealed unto the day of redemption.

Let all bitterness, and wrath, and anger, and clamour, and evil speaking,
be put away from you, with all malice:

And be ye kind one to another,
tenderhearted, forgiving one another,
even as God for Christ's sake hath forgiven you.

(Ephesians 4:29-32)

Praise His Holy Name!
 

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Nevertheless it is what Calvinism teaches. If you yourselves do not believe that, then you do not understand what you are espousing.
You are the one who does not understand the teaching. That does not make you a bad person, just confused.
What makes someone a bad person is the 9th commandment violations and false strawman posts you offer
 

Anthony D'Arienzo

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'Of these things put them in remembrance,
charging them before the Lord
that they strive not about words to no profit,
but to the subverting of the hearers.

Study to shew thyself approved unto God,
a workman that needeth not to be ashamed,
rightly dividing the word of truth.

But shun profane and vain babblings:
for they will increase unto more ungodliness.
And their word will eat as doth a canker:... '

(2 Timothy 2:14)

* Please stop hurting one another, for it is the Holy Spirit you are grieving.
We are not being hurt at all Charity.
The two Kingdoms clash.
Attacks are made and defended.
If people want to contend for the faith,they need to address the scripture in question. Any reader can see some trying to stay on topic and someone avoiding the scripture.
 

justbyfaith

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You are the one who does not understand the teaching. That does not make you a bad person, just confused.

You would know the doctrine perfectly then; so explain to me how the following understanding is confused; based on two of the major tenets in the Calvinistic TULIP.

First there is Limited Atonement, the idea that Christ died for only a select few.

Then there is Unconditional Election, the concept that God chooses people for salvation not based on their decision to receive or reject Christ.

Tell me how the latter doctrine does not teach that god arbitrarily chooses who He will redeem and not redeem?

I would love to understand your doctrine; although I would never subscribe to it because every last one of you that purports it is a bearer of bad fruit, from my experience: and I do not want to become a bearer of bad fruit as are all of you; because I consider that the negative fruit (briers and thorns) that comes from the lot of you comes from the basis in your doctrine.
 
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We are not being hurt at all Charity.
Usually the bully in any situation does not get hurt; for he is the one doing the hurting.

Although, if he messes with the wrong person, he could end up with a proverbial black eye (I'm not saying I'm that person).
 
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The two Kingdoms clash.
One kingdom is about fruit, the other bears thorns. I don't know about them, but I have been feeling pricked; and not by the Holy Spirit either.

Jesus says,

Sng 2:2, As the lily among thorns, so is my love among the daughters.

He comforts me letting me know that I am of His bride.
 
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First there is Limited Atonement, the idea that Christ died for only a select few.

Then there is Unconditional Election, the concept that God chooses people for salvation not based on their decision to receive or reject Christ.

Tell me how the latter doctrine does not teach that god arbitrarily chooses who He will redeem and not redeem?
God is not a respecter of persons. If he did not arbitrarily choose whom he saves, he would be a respecter of persons. As you imply when you think he foresaw and saved the self righteous.
 
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I am beginning to feel you don't know what you are talking about.

Since when has hunt the thimble been a requirement for following and understanding a theme?
If you go to the original link, I changed it so that it links closer to the end of that thread where it will become more clear what I am talking about. It even becomes clear that certain people were even requiring me to hunt the thimble; so I can see where you are coming from on that.

I will place the new link here also:

Without unconditional Election,no one would be saved.
 
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He has no idea what it is about, you are correct.
But, of course, you are not going to explain it to me; even though I have asked you to, in post #'s 23 and 29, above.

Most certainly you know the truth! (and are withholding it from the general public).

If I am mistaken in my understanding that I have posted in the posts (#23 and #29) above, then show me how I am mistaken.

Otherwise, shut up.
 

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But, of course, you are not going to explain it to me; even though I have asked you to, in post #'s 23 and 29, above.

Most certainly you know the truth! (and are withholding it from the general public).

If I am mistaken in my understanding that I have posted in the posts (#23 and #29) above, then show me how I am mistaken.

Otherwise, shut up.
You have failed to respond to the Roman's 5 posts,even the latest one.
I like to help people who want the help.
You have showed yourself to be an internet jerk, who posts like a troll. I will not cast Pearl's before swine.
If you show yourself to be sincere, I will help.
Life is too short to waste on trolls.
 
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You have failed to respond to the Roman's 5 posts,even the latest one.
I like to help people who want the help.
You have showed yourself to be an internet jerk, who posts like a troll. I will not cast Pearl's before swine.
If you show yourself to be sincere, I will help.
Life is too short to waste on trolls.
I see that you don't have an answer.