MARK 6:3 DID JESUS HAVE BROTHERS AND SISTERS ?

[Jon Mathews]

first thanks for the reply, second, incorrect on your part. May was only a surrogate mother to the Lord Jesus. even adoptive children, (which have no biologial attachment to the guarding parent), will call them "mother". just as the Lord Jesus sid when dying, John 19:26 "When Jesus therefore saw his mother, and the disciple standing by, whom he loved, he saith unto his mother, Woman, behold thy son!". so was Mary, the disciple whom he love, his biologial mother? no. so just because someone call a woman mother, don't mean biologial mother. my god how hard is it to understand. so your Luke 8:19-20 is reproved.

now, knowing this, it is you who is denying the word of God. only by BIRTH not by biology are they kin.

PICJAG

I understand that Jesus was giving John to Mary as an adoptive son.

But Mary was still the biological mother of Jesus as it is written "I will put enmity between you and the woman, and between your offspring and hers; he will crush your head, and you will strike his heel." (Genesis 3:15). Jesus Christ is the seed of the woman (both Eve AND the virgin Mary) who will crush the seed of Satan's head.

Satan sure want's to deny that Jesus Christ is the Seed of the Woman, because it is prophesied that the Seed of the Woman will crush his seed's HEAD!!!

 

[Jon Mathews]

#2. the Lord Jesus the Christ had brothers and sister according to the birth of the same Mother, but not biologically connected.
PICJAG.

Don't you know that 2 children of the same mother are biologically related, even if they have a different father? They both share the DNA of the mother. That makes them biologically related.

 

[101G]

I understand that Jesus was giving John to Mary as an adoptive son.

But Mary was still the biological mother of Jesus as it is written "I will put enmity between you and the woman, and between your offspring and hers; he will crush your head, and you will strike his heel." (Genesis 3:15). Jesus Christ is the seed of the woman (both Eve AND the virgin Mary) who will crush the seed of Satan's head.

Satan sure want's to deny that Jesus Christ is the Seed of the Woman, because it is prophesied that the Seed of the Woman will crush his seed's HEAD!!!

The seed is christ, which is of God. and two the devil do not have a natural seed, but he have offspring, sons and daughters, listen, It is often used metaphorically of prominent moral characteristics. descendants, without reference to sex. those who act in a certain way, whether evil or good. those who manifest a certain character, whether evil or good.

example, Matthew 3:7 "But when he saw many of the Pharisees and Sadducees come to his baptism, he said unto them, O generation of vipers, who hath warned you to flee from the wrath to come?"
viper is a type of snake. so did they have scale for skin, or fangs for teeth, or a fork tongue. or did they slither on the ground? of course not.

so no, the seed here is christ. Mary had nothing to do with the christ except to "BIRTH" it.

PICJAG.

 

[Jon Mathews]

The seed is christ, which is of God. and two the devil do not have a natural seed, but he have offspring, sons and daughters, listen, It is often used metaphorically of prominent moral characteristics. descendants, without reference to sex. those who act in a certain way, whether evil or good. those who manifest a certain character, whether evil or good.

example, Matthew 3:7 "But when he saw many of the Pharisees and Sadducees come to his baptism, he said unto them, O generation of vipers, who hath warned you to flee from the wrath to come?"
viper is a type of snake. so did they have scale for skin, or fangs for teeth, or a fork tongue. or did they slither on the ground? of course not.

so no, the seed here is christ. Mary had nothing to do with the christ except to "BIRTH" it.

PICJAG.

Is Jesus Christ the Seed of the Woman, the son of David, the Son of God, Yes or No?

 

[101G]

Don't you know that 2 children of the same mother are biologically related, even if they have a different father? They both share the DNA of the mother. That makes them biologically related.

did you know that a surrogate mother has nothing to do with the child biologial make up. she only carry the child to term.

My God how hard it is to understand.

PICJAG.

 

[101G]

Is Jesus Christ the Seed of the Woman, the son of David, the Son of God, Yes or No?

no

PICJAG

 

[Jon Mathews]

did you know that a surrogate mother has nothing to do with the child biologial make up. she only carry the child to term.

My God how hard it is to understand.

PICJAG.

Is Jesus Christ the Seed of the Woman, the Son of David, the Son of God? Yes or No?

 

[Jon Mathews]

no

PICJAG

And that is how I know you do not have the Truth of God in Jesus Christ. Satan denies Jesus Christ is the Seed of the Woman, the Son of David, the Son of God because Satan knows the Seed of the Woman will crush his head, and he is in denial of the Truth of God in Jesus Christ.

 

[101G]

And that is how I know you do not have the Truth of God in Jesus Christ. Satan denies Jesus Christ is the Seed of the Woman, the Son of David, the Son of God because Satan knows the Seed of the Woman will crush his head, and he is in denial of the Truth of God in Jesus Christ.

Luke 20:41 "And he said unto them, How say they that Christ is David's son?
Luke 20:42 "And David himself saith in the book of Psalms, The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou on my right hand,Luke 20:43 "Till I make thine enemies thy footstool.
Luke 20:44 "David therefore calleth him Lord, how is he then his son?
(SMILE) you want to answer the LORD jesus question, ... go on take a shot.... (smile), I'll be waiting for your answer.

PICJAG.

 

[Jon Mathews]

Luke 20:41 "And he said unto them, How say they that Christ is David's son?
Luke 20:42 "And David himself saith in the book of Psalms, The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou on my right hand,Luke 20:43 "Till I make thine enemies thy footstool.
Luke 20:44 "David therefore calleth him Lord, how is he then his son?
(SMILE) you want to answer the LORD jesus question, ... go on take a shot.... (smile), I'll be waiting for your answer.

PICJAG.

Christ is the eternal Word of God. He was God in the begginning. He came into the flesh and blood body of Jesus in Mary's Womb. In this way, He is the Son of God and also David's Lord, since He existed as God BEFORE David was born.

But Mary was a daughter of David. Jesus Christ's body was made from the Seed of the Woman, the Virgin Mary who was a daughter of David. In this way, Jesus is the Seed of the Woman, the son of David.

So Jesus Christ is the Seed of the Woman (Genesis 3:15), the son of David (Matthew 1:1, Romans 1:3), AND the Son of God (Matthew 17:5), and you have denied all this and lied against Jesus Christ who is the Truth of God.

 

[Doug]

no the recorder of the gospel knew, but the hometown folk didn't know that the Lord Jesus was not Joseph son.

PICJAG.

Hello

There are Bible passages whereby we can know Joseph was not his father.
What the people thought was recorded and there are no passages to refute them thinking Jesus had brothers.
In fact it is recorded that he did have brothers and sisters.

 

[101G]

Jesus is not the seed "OF" the woman but is the seed to come. scripture, Galatians 3:16 "Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds, as of many; but as of one, And to thy seed, which is Christ".

see JM, the christ didn't come from Mary, but from God. Mary only carried the child, not help make the child. her egg was not even used. this is all of God, listen, Luke 1:35 "And the angel answered and said unto her, The Holy Ghost shall come upon thee, and the power of the Highest shall overshadow thee: therefore also that holy thing which shall be born of thee shall be called the Son of God".
note also the word overshadow, it's the Greek word G1982 ἐπισκιάζω episkiazo (ep-ee-skee-ad'-zo) v.
1. to cast a shade upon
2. (by analogy) to envelop in a haze of brilliancy
3. (figuratively) to invest with preternatural influence

what do preternatural means?. "out of the ordinary course of nature; exceptional or abnormal". the meaning here, not in the natural way of conception between a man and a women. this body as I have said, God conceived or God made, and “formed” in Mary’s womb.

Look JM, I’m not here to argue with you or to embarrass you, but to edify. See, your question was flawed, hence my answer no. Just as many say the devil add truth with lie. Well a half truth is whole lie in disguise. See, the Lord Jesus is not the biological offspring of David nor Mary, but only by “BIRTH”. we could give example after example but it would take up to much space and time. The key to understanding our LORD’S kinship is by “BIRTH” only. He was not a partaker of humanity, but took part in it, by “Birth” only.

PICJAG.

 

[101G]

Hello

There are Bible passages whereby we can know Joseph was not his father.
What the people thought was recorded and there are no passages to refute them thinking Jesus had brothers.
In fact it is recorded that he did have brothers and sisters.

by birth or biologially, which one... please your answer.

PICJAG.

 

[marks]

Christ is the eternal Word of God. He was God in the begginning. He came into the flesh and blood body of Jesus in Mary's Womb. In this way, He is the Son of God and also David's Lord, since He existed as God BEFORE David was born.

But Mary was a daughter of David. Jesus Christ's body was made from the Seed of the Woman, the Virgin Mary who was a daughter of David. In this way, Jesus is the Seed of the Woman, the son of David.

So Jesus Christ is the Seed of the Woman (Genesis 3:15), the son of David (Matthew 1:1, Romans 1:3), AND the Son of God (Matthew 17:5), and you have denied all this and lied against Jesus Christ who is the Truth of God.

Jesus was made like sinful flesh, but not of sinful flesh. Of course now this does get into the "immaculate conception" of Mary, so that Jesus could be born biologically descended from Mary, yet not in sinful flesh, because Mary did not have sinful flesh, having been immaculately conceived, and yet . . .

Romans 3:23, For all have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God. Mary included.

Much love!
Mark

 

[Jon Mathews]

see JM, the christ didn't come from Mary, but from God.

Romans 1:3-4
"concerning His Son, who was born of a descendant of David according to the flesh, who was declared the Son of God with power by the resurrection from the dead, according to the Spirit of holiness, Jesus Christ our Lord"

Matthew 1:1
"This is the genealogy of Jesus the Messiah the son of David, the son of Abraham"

According to the flesh (speaking of His Body) he was made of the Seed of the Woman as a blood relative of the Virgin Mary and thus a descendent of David. But according to the Spirit (speaking of the Spirit of Christ inside that Body) He is the Son of God.

Jesus Christ is BOTH the Seed of Woman (the descendant of David) AND the Son of God, as it is written in Romans 1:3-4 and Matthew 1:1.

So I'll ask you again. Is Jesus Christ BOTH the Seed of Woman (the descendant of David) AND the Son of God? Yes or No?

 

[Doug]

by birth or biologially, which one... please your answer.

PICJAG.

Hello
There are no passages I know of where Mary married another

 

[101G]

Romans 1:3-4
"concerning His Son, who was born of a descendant of David according to the flesh, who was declared the Son of God with power by the resurrection from the dead, according to the Spirit of holiness, Jesus Christ our Lord"

Matthew 1:1
"This is the genealogy of Jesus the Messiah the son of David, the son of Abraham"

According to the flesh (speaking of His Body) he was made of the Seed of the Woman as a blood relative of the Virgin Mary and thus a descendent of David. But according to the Spirit (speaking of the Spirit of Christ inside that Body) He is the Son of God.

Jesus Christ is BOTH the Seed of Woman (the descendant of David) AND the Son of God, as it is written in Romans 1:3-4 and Matthew 1:1.

So I'll ask you again. Is Jesus Christ BOTH the Seed of Woman (the descendant of David) AND the Son of God? Yes or No?

first thanks for the reply, second, "descendant of David", here, this is speaking of MARY not the christ. Mary is the descendant of David, read that again. to who was "born" Christ. just as I been saying "BORN". WHAT? concering his "son", who's son? "HIS" son, not Mary's son, biologically. according to the flesh, which was "BORN". how hard is it.

Romans 1:1 "Paul, a servant of Jesus Christ, called [to be] an apostle, separated unto the gospel of God,
Romans 1:2 "(Which he had promised afore by his prophets in the holy scriptures,)
Romans 1:3 "Concerning his Son Jesus Christ our Lord, which was made of the seed of David according to the flesh".

made of the seed of David. the seed of David is Mary who birthed "CHRIST".

PICJAG.

 

[101G]

Hello
There are no passages I know of where Mary married another

first thanks for the reply, second, we know this, but we asked, "was the Lord Jesus the Christ sisters and brothers his kin, biologically, or by birth?

PICJAG.

 

[Doug]

first thanks for the reply, second, we know this, but we asked, "was the Lord Jesus the Christ sisters and brothers his kin, biologically, or by birth?

PICJAG.

Hello
If there are no passages saying she married again it would follow she conceived by Joseph and the children would be by birth but I wouldn't be able to support that with scripture.

 

[BreadOfLife]

Hello

There are Bible passages whereby we can know Joseph was not his father.
What the people thought was recorded and there are no passages to refute them thinking Jesus had brothers.
In fact it is recorded that he did have brothers and sisters.

Whereas, I am in NO way agreeing with the psychotic ravings of @101G - it is not recorded that Jesus had brothers and sisters, that is to say, uterine siblings. It simply states that he had adephoi.

As we know - this word is used in the NT some 344 times.
Of those 344 times -
- 41 cases, or 12% of the uses of "Adelphos" clearly or probably refers to a family sibling
- 47 cases, or 14% of the uses of "Adelphos" may or may not refer to a family sibling
- 256 cases, or 74% of the uses of "Adelphos" cannot or almost certainly does not refer to a family sibling

"Adelphos" is used to describe, uterine brothers, step brothers, half-brothers, brothers-in-aw, cousins, uncles, neighbors, fellow countrymen, fellow believers, etc., as I have shown in posts #21 & #176.

ANYBODY trying to make the case that Jesus had uterine siblings based SOLELY on the use of this word in the NT has a weak if not, non-existent case . . .