Is Israel really biblical Israel or is it a devil's creation?

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This pastor anderson is a wingnut Hate preacher from Arizona, this is not a true believer. He preaches hate against gays & Jews etc.
True believers do not preach hate. No one should be listening to his garbage.
Anderson right up there with the Westboro nut jobs, just tools of the devil to misrepresent Christianity , imo.

I don't know anything about that pastor, but you brought up an interesting point. Scripture is replete with references to love, such as this one:

1 John 4:7 - Beloved, let us love one another: for love is of God; and every one that loveth is born of God, and knoweth God.

Yet Scripture is also strong on avoiding sin and not associating with wrongdoers.

1 Cor. 5:11 - But actually, I wrote to you not to associate with any so-called brother if he is an immoral person, or covetous, or an idolater, or a reviler, or a drunkard, or a swindler--not even to eat with such a one.

So it seems like it can be a delicate balancing act at times for pastors. Maybe they can preach too much on love and avoid preaching against sin; likewise they can preach too much about sin and forget the love.
 

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I don't know anything about that pastor, but you brought up an interesting point. Scripture is replete with references to love, such as this one:

1 John 4:7 - Beloved, let us love one another: for love is of God; and every one that loveth is born of God, and knoweth God.

Yet Scripture is also strong on avoiding sin and not associating with wrongdoers.

1 Cor. 5:11 - But actually, I wrote to you not to associate with any so-called brother if he is an immoral person, or covetous, or an idolater, or a reviler, or a drunkard, or a swindler--not even to eat with such a one.

So it seems like it can be a delicate balancing act at times for pastors. Maybe they can preach too much on love and avoid preaching against sin; likewise they can preach too much about sin and forget the love.

I think that's a good point, SG. Some fall more on the side of truth; others fall on the side of love. But we need to have both in equal measure. That balance is somewhat difficult to achieve. Jesus did it perfectly. He rebuked those who needed rebuking--the arrogant and prideful who thought they knew better than God Himself and furthermore, deserved to tell Him about it! In addition to the gospels, we can see this rebuke occurring in the Book of Job and the Book of Jonah. Jesus was also gentle and loving with those who needed encouragement--women and especially children. He commended the humility of children and, in fact, said that we must approach our Heavenly Father in humility and trust--as a young child turns to his earthly parents. And Jesus prayed for them all--even those who sent Him to be tortured to death--that the Father would forgive them for their ignorance and hate.
 
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From what I seen him on the video he was correctly pointing out the facts.
Gays can not enter into the Kingdom of God because they are far from it.
Jews OT believers can not enter into the Kingdom of God, until they come to Jesus.

I did not see any hate coming from him, I would say that he is correct in that one should be very carful of the Talmud Whore that is leading the true people who believe in the OT up the garden path.

Did you see that he was pointing out that this mob of 'So called Jews' reject the OT and are all about 'the Talmud', so fact is that such morons we seen their claiming to be Jews are not Jews at all, they don't even hold the OT in high regard !
Can't you see that fact ! so they are of Satan in fact, they do not look up to Holy Moses, fact is they are who Jesus pointed out for what they are, of Satan ! the one who leads the whole world astray and of their father of lies and was a murderer from the beginning.

The Talmud are total racist bigots in fact way beyond anything Hitler said in fact. if you ever bothered to read their books you would know that.

The Talmud is hated by true Jews who follow the OT and believe in Holy Moses, the True Jews who follow in Holy Moses are the only Jews who have any hope in coming to Jesus, because if they believe in him then they have the ability to see Jesus as the Christ, now Moses said that in fact.
Only a True Israelite (servant of God) can come to Jesus Christ, only true Israelites came to Jesus 2000 years ago and that's a fact, because they knew that Jesus was the King of Israel.

The Talmud preaches Hatred of Jesus and all the slander that they say about Jesus and all is insane, this Pastor Anderson is a believer in Jesus Christ that is not fooled by such devils and is speaking out like any true Pastor has to point out the wolfs to save the flock.

The Talmud is the same bastards that led the majority of Jews astray and worked cunningly so as to kill Jesus Christ and any worthy Christian knows such is a fact.
This bastard Talmud whore has crept into the Christian denominations and Governments leading all astray, Abortions are now seen as ok that is the work of their god Moloch it's Child sacrifice ! healthy baby's by the millions, what next ! freedom of speech ? look at the bastard churches that have turned a blind eye to all this nowadays ! what's the good of them.
This Pastor Anderson is standing up to the crowd and saying the truth, warning and educating you on a subject, but look at the rest.

You don't have to believe him, no one is forcing you to. so why attack one who is claiming that others are of Satan, is that a right thing to do go about trying to slander such people, if they believe such.

We have plenty who attack The RCC because they believe this and that about them. right or wrong. everyone has a right to freedom of Speech under Christian values.

I think a warning is appropriate--there was a recently popular "Christian" book called, The Circle Maker. It's central theme is from a story told in the Talmud! The "pastor" who wrote the book was open about the source for his book. What possible justification could there be for a "Christian" mega church pastor (I believe that church is in Washington, D.C.) to use subject material from the Talmud??

I didn't notice that Pastor Anderson was at all "hateful" to the Jews who were spouting things which must have made his skin crawl. I pitied those Jewish men--so blind. I think Pastor Anderson probably did too.
 

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From what I seen him on the video he was correctly pointing out the facts.
Gays can not enter into the Kingdom of God because they are far from it.
Jews OT believers can not enter into the Kingdom of God, until they come to Jesus.

I did not see any hate coming from him, I would say that he is correct in that one should be very carful of the Talmud Whore that is leading the true people who believe in the OT up the garden path.

Did you see that he was pointing out that this mob of 'So called Jews' reject the OT and are all about 'the Talmud', so fact is that such morons we seen their claiming to be Jews are not Jews at all, they don't even hold the OT in high regard !
Can't you see that fact ! so they are of Satan in fact, they do not look up to Holy Moses, fact is they are who Jesus pointed out for what they are, of Satan ! the one who leads the whole world astray and of their father of lies and was a murderer from the beginning.

The Talmud are total racist bigots in fact way beyond anything Hitler said in fact. if you ever bothered to read their books you would know that.

The Talmud is hated by true Jews who follow the OT and believe in Holy Moses, the True Jews who follow in Holy Moses are the only Jews who have any hope in coming to Jesus, because if they believe in him then they have the ability to see Jesus as the Christ, now Moses said that in fact.
Only a True Israelite (servant of God) can come to Jesus Christ, only true Israelites came to Jesus 2000 years ago and that's a fact, because they knew that Jesus was the King of Israel.

The Talmud preaches Hatred of Jesus and all the slander that they say about Jesus and all is insane, this Pastor Anderson is a believer in Jesus Christ that is not fooled by such devils and is speaking out like any true Pastor has to point out the wolfs to save the flock.

The Talmud is the same bastards that led the majority of Jews astray and worked cunningly so as to kill Jesus Christ and any worthy Christian knows such is a fact.
This bastard Talmud whore has crept into the Christian denominations and Governments leading all astray, Abortions are now seen as ok that is the work of their god Moloch it's Child sacrifice ! healthy baby's by the millions, what next ! freedom of speech ? look at the bastard churches that have turned a blind eye to all this nowadays ! what's the good of them.
This Pastor Anderson is standing up to the crowd and saying the truth, warning and educating you on a subject, but look at the rest.

You don't have to believe him, no one is forcing you to. so why attack one who is claiming that others are of Satan, is that a right thing to do go about trying to slander such people, if they believe such.

We have plenty who attack The RCC because they believe this and that about them. right or wrong. everyone has a right to freedom of Speech under Christian values.
Disgusting, disgraceful & ugly the increase in Anti-semitism worldwide and that some who call themselves Christian have Anti-Semitic hatred and justify it by the OT. This is exactly why Germans went along with Hitler.
 

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I don't know anything about that pastor, but you brought up an interesting point. Scripture is replete with references to love, such as this one:
This guy spews hate and doesn't represent Christianity.
 

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Disgusting, disgraceful & ugly the increase in Anti-semitism worldwide and that some who call themselves Christian have Anti-Semitic hatred and justify it by the OT. This is exactly why Germans went along with Hitler.

I agree that antisemitism is ugly and hateful but, at least in this video, I did not see any evidence of hate. Those who pay more attention to the Talmud than they do the Tanakh have infected Judaism. A number of rabbis have expressed their concern over the influence of Kabbalah and the Talmud on Judaism. Kabbalism seems to inoculate Jews against the gospel--just as Sufi mysticism seems to inoculate Muslims against the gospel. One could hardly call rabbis who have expressed concern over occult teachings infecting Judaism, antisemitic.
 
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I agree that antisemitism is ugly and hateful but, at least in this video, I did not see any evidence of hate. Those who pay more attention to the Talmud than they do the Tanakh have infected Judaism. A number of rabbis have expressed their concern over the influence of Kabbalah and the Talmud on Judaism. Kabbalism seems to inoculate Jews against the gospel--just as Sufi mysticism seems to inoculate Muslims against the gospel. One could hardly call rabbis who have expressed concern over occult teachings infecting Judaism, antisemitic.
I go by the man - period. He is a hatemonger and an anti-semite. He also preaches hate towards homosexuals. I wouldn't line my garbage pails with his material.
 

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I go by the man - period. He is a hatemonger and an anti-semite. He also preaches hate towards homosexuals. I wouldn't line my garbage pails with his material.

I went to look at the BBC video clip which you posted and I agree that he is spreading hatred for homosexuals. He is in violation of the word of God in doing that. The vast majority of homosexuals are unbelievers and the Bible tells me (in 2 Corinthians chapter 5) that we have no authority to judge them--they have God as their judge. But the Church, as a whole, has a right and duty to generally denounce sin in the culture (but wisdom would suggest doing it in the least antagonistic fashion). Pastor Anderson is not always wise in the language that he uses to denounce sin. Having said that, sin INSIDE the Church must be judged and those who sin openly must be judged. We are told in 2 Corinthians chapter 5 to expel defiantly sinful people from our congregations, in order to guard the purity of our churches.
 
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I'm late in coming to this apparent realization that the nation of Israel is not biblical Israel, but a counterfeit. I thoroughly believe that there is a plot to destroy America. I wonder why so many pastors are teaching that the nation of Israel is the biblical Israel and we're to support it. We've sent billions there from what I understand.
They are the descendants of the Russian Khazars who hijacked Judaism many centuries ago. The Bible is clear that "the kingdom of God shall be taken from you" and they are left "blinded" as a people, but individually may be grafted into the true "Israel of God" which is Christ's church aka those who "belong to Christ (which) then are Abraham's seed and heirs according to the promise".
 

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I think a warning is appropriate--there was a recently popular "Christian" book called, The Circle Maker. It's central theme is from a story told in the Talmud! The "pastor" who wrote the book was open about the source for his book. What possible justification could there be for a "Christian" mega church pastor (I believe that church is in Washington, D.C.) to use subject material from the Talmud??

I didn't notice that Pastor Anderson was at all "hateful" to the Jews who were spouting things which must have made his skin crawl. I pitied those Jewish men--so blind. I think Pastor Anderson probably did too.
I reject that the Talmud is Jewish at all. we have our books in the OT and that is what a true Jew must believe and follow only, or they are not Jewish at all and to be a true Jew one must follow Holy Moses and that will prove that one is worthy to be called Jewish with honour.
There is no honour in the Talmud as it is totally Satanic.
I say that the Talmud is that of the Golden Calf, they hated Holy Moses and they did seek to kill him.
 

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I reject that the Talmud is Jewish at all. we have our books in the OT and that is what a true Jew must believe and follow only, or they are not Jewish at all and to be a true Jew one must follow Holy Moses and that will prove that one is worthy to be called Jewish with honour.
There is no honour in the Talmud as it is totally Satanic.
I say that the Talmud is that of the Golden Calf, they hated Holy Moses and they did seek to kill him.

You may be right--Ezekiel chapter 8 details occult practices going on right inside the Temple! I agree that those men are only thought of as "Jewish" because they claim ancestry going back to Abraham, Isaac and Jacob/Judah.
 

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Disgusting, disgraceful & ugly the increase in Anti-semitism worldwide and that some who call themselves Christian have Anti-Semitic hatred and justify it by the OT. This is exactly why Germans went along with Hitler.
Their are plenty of devout true Jews about that reject the Talmud Tzcho2 are they Anti-Semitic bro ?

The Talmud is everything that Hitler Nazis were and more so, as they created the Nazis and played them for the fools that they were, doing the devils bidding in trying to wipe out the real Jews who had been coming to Europe for 2000 years. that was what the real aim of the Talmud was.

Their is noting truly Jewish about the Talmud at all, the Talmud do not believe in the God of the OT at all and you can see it's a fact in that video.

The Talmud Whore has only been bastardising the Jews right from the beginning and Jesus pointed them out for who they truly are in fact.

Fact is that an Anti-Semite is one who does not like Semites, do you know what a Semite is ? about 90% of the Semitic race are Islamic in fact.
The Jewish Religion came from a Semitic race, but Judaism is a Religion and not a race, just as Islam is not a race, it's a Religion ! just as Christianity is a Religion, plenty of Semitic people are Christians as well bro.

Fact is that their is ugly increase in Anti-Christ worldwide like never before, even within our own leaders, look at all the Christian African Negros that have been killed over the years and not to mention that the West should be helping the Christian Negros but because of Political Correctness and worshiping the anti discrimination gods, sadly the Christian Negros who will make good citizens have to contend with all the bastard Islamic ones who make problem citizens, the Talmud Whore Satanist are importing trouble and I have the good Islamic people saying such is a fact, that the West is importing way to many bad Islamic bastards and they want to get on TV to say so, but they dismissed directly by our Media Whore, I have had many Islamic people who have jumped at the chance to warn me about this problem, they came hear to get away from bastards like that and they know what it's all about because they lived it. but the white pandy arse in the West are to ignorant to see the facts because they have been brainwashed by the works of the Talmud who owns the Media and TV and Satanic education advisors from the top down are all in on it.
 

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The Bible points out that a true Christian will know them by their works. so yes I can see the Talmud's works are just like railway tracks with the Nazis following the same line, if you ever bother to look into such it sticks out like dogs balls. not to mention that the so called Zionist were in bed with the Nazis full on ! and if you ever bothered to look into it all you will see that is a fact.
The Devil is in the detail bro.
Governments are trying to lead us astray and the people are asleep to it all and being taken for fools that they are, look at just the USA it's indebt to it's eye balls and all the other Nations as well, is it just bad management or is it a criminal act ?

Remember the Germans were in debt before the war and when they were called on to give all that money back, what happened, well 200% inflation bud ! that's on the cards for the USA believe it or not, such could easy happen. their will be no pensions payed no dole and your Super will fail, so all that money you put in will be gone in a depression. did you know that's a fact. it's amazing that so many people do not understand that fact.

Did you know that in 2008 all the blatant big criminals were payed out by you the Tax payers and got away with it all, they were and still are rolling about on the floor pissing themselves laughing at how ignorant the majority of people are.
 

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Their are plenty of devout true Jews about that reject the Talmud Tzcho2 are they Anti-Semitic bro ?

The Talmud is everything that Hitler Nazis were and more so, as they created the Nazis and played them for the fools that they were, doing the devils bidding in trying to wipe out the real Jews who had been coming to Europe for 2000 years. that was what the real aim of the Talmud was.

Their is noting truly Jewish about the Talmud at all, the Talmud do not believe in the God of the OT at all and you can see it's a fact in that video.

The Talmud Whore has only been bastardising the Jews right from the beginning and Jesus pointed them out for who they truly are in fact.

Fact is that an Anti-Semite is one who does not like Semites, do you know what a Semite is ? about 90% of the Semitic race are Islamic in fact.
The Jewish Religion came from a Semitic race, but Judaism is a Religion and not a race, just as Islam is not a race, it's a Religion ! just as Christianity is a Religion, plenty of Semitic people are Christians as well bro.

Fact is that their is ugly increase in Anti-Christ worldwide like never before, even within our own leaders, look at all the Christian African Negros that have been killed over the years and not to mention that the West should be helping the Christian Negros but because of Political Correctness and worshiping the anti discrimination gods, sadly the Christian Negros who will make good citizens have to contend with all the bastard Islamic ones who make problem citizens, the Talmud Whore Satanist are importing trouble and I have the good Islamic people saying such is a fact, that the West is importing way to many bad Islamic bastards and they want to get on TV to say so, but they dismissed directly by our Media Whore, I have had many Islamic people who have jumped at the chance to warn me about this problem, they came hear to get away from bastards like that and they know what it's all about because they lived it. but the white pandy arse in the West are to ignorant to see the facts because they have been brainwashed by the works of the Talmud who owns the Media and TV and Satanic education advisors from the top down are all in on it.
Reggie, the Lord will deal with His brethren, it is not up to us to bad mouth them or judge or sift them. We are supposed to be a Godly people that makes the Jews jealous because of our relationship with God. I think when we join with anti-semitism it is not making them jealous , Bud.
 

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Their are plenty of devout true Jews about that reject the Talmud Tzcho2 are they Anti-Semitic bro ?

The Talmud is everything that Hitler Nazis were and more so, as they created the Nazis and played them for the fools that they were, doing the devils bidding in trying to wipe out the real Jews who had been coming to Europe for 2000 years. that was what the real aim of the Talmud was.

Their is noting truly Jewish about the Talmud at all, the Talmud do not believe in the God of the OT at all and you can see it's a fact in that video.

The Talmud Whore has only been bastardising the Jews right from the beginning and Jesus pointed them out for who they truly are in fact.

Fact is that an Anti-Semite is one who does not like Semites, do you know what a Semite is ? about 90% of the Semitic race are Islamic in fact.
The Jewish Religion came from a Semitic race, but Judaism is a Religion and not a race, just as Islam is not a race, it's a Religion ! just as Christianity is a Religion, plenty of Semitic people are Christians as well bro.

Fact is that their is ugly increase in Anti-Christ worldwide like never before, even within our own leaders, look at all the Christian African Negros that have been killed over the years and not to mention that the West should be helping the Christian Negros but because of Political Correctness and worshiping the anti discrimination gods, sadly the Christian Negros who will make good citizens have to contend with all the bastard Islamic ones who make problem citizens, the Talmud Whore Satanist are importing trouble and I have the good Islamic people saying such is a fact, that the West is importing way to many bad Islamic bastards and they want to get on TV to say so, but they dismissed directly by our Media Whore, I have had many Islamic people who have jumped at the chance to warn me about this problem, they came hear to get away from bastards like that and they know what it's all about because they lived it. but the white pandy arse in the West are to ignorant to see the facts because they have been brainwashed by the works of the Talmud who owns the Media and TV and Satanic education advisors from the top down are all in on it.

There are actually two Talmuds. The Jerusalem Talmud (Talmud Yerushalmi) and the Babylonian Talmud (Talmud Bavli). They were developed during the same period (from about the third to the fifth centuries A.D.) and named after the two major centers of rabbinic Judaism (the Jerusalem Talmud was written in the area of the Galilee, in what is today, northern Israel, however). The Jerusalem Talmud isn't used much because it is difficult for even seasoned Talmudic scholars to decipher. It is the Babylonian Talmud that is mainly used today and, appears to have a lot of influence over Orthodox Judaism. Even worse is the frankly evil Zohar of the Kabbalists.
 
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Even worse is the frankly evil Zohar of the Kabbalists.
Kabbalism is occultism and includes witchcraft. Unfortunately, the hexagram (six-pointed star) used as the Star of David is also a Kabbalistic symbols. Which does not automatically mean that all Jews are Kabbalists or involved with occultism. We need to be careful in not going into conspiracy theories at every turn.

What we do know that Scripture is that David (who was king over Israel after Saul) will be "prince over Israel" under Christ.

And David my servant shall be king over them; and they all shall have one Shepherd [CHRIST]: they shall also walk in my judgments, and observe my statutes, and do them. And they shall dwell in the land that I have given unto Jacob my servant, wherein your fathers have dwelt; and they shall dwell therein, even they, and their children, and their children's children for ever: and my servant David shall be their prince for ever. (Ezek 37:24,25)
 
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Kabbalism is occultism and includes witchcraft. Unfortunately, the hexagram (six-pointed star) used as the Star of David is also a Kabbalistic symbols. Which does not automatically mean that all Jews are Kabbalists or involved with occultism. We need to be careful in not going into conspiracy theories at every turn.

What we do know that Scripture is that David (who was king over Israel after Saul) will be "prince over Israel" under Christ.

And David my servant shall be king over them; and they all shall have one Shepherd [CHRIST]: they shall also walk in my judgments, and observe my statutes, and do them. And they shall dwell in the land that I have given unto Jacob my servant, wherein your fathers have dwelt; and they shall dwell therein, even they, and their children, and their children's children for ever: and my servant David shall be their prince for ever. (Ezek 37:24,25)

I agree that the majority of Israelis are clueless about what the Talmud teaches and they know even less about Kabbalism and the Zohar. I also agree that David will rule over Israel in the Millennial Kingdom. Jesus will rule over the entire earth as the King of Kings (a title for an Emperor) who would have many princes and rulers under His leadership.
 

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The Bible points out that a true Christian will know them by their works. so yes I can see the Talmud's works are just like railway tracks with the Nazis following the same line, if you ever bother to look into such it sticks out like dogs balls. not to mention that the so called Zionist were in bed with the Nazis full on ! and if you ever bothered to look into it all you will see that is a fact.
The Devil is in the detail bro.
Governments are trying to lead us astray and the people are asleep to it all and being taken for fools that they are, look at just the USA it's indebt to it's eye balls and all the other Nations as well, is it just bad management or is it a criminal act ?

Remember the Germans were in debt before the war and when they were called on to give all that money back, what happened, well 200% inflation bud ! that's on the cards for the USA believe it or not, such could easy happen. their will be no pensions payed no dole and your Super will fail, so all that money you put in will be gone in a depression. did you know that's a fact. it's amazing that so many people do not understand that fact.

Did you know that in 2008 all the blatant big criminals were payed out by you the Tax payers and got away with it all, they were and still are rolling about on the floor pissing themselves laughing at how ignorant the majority of people are.
What about the Tanakh?
 

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I think that's a good point, SG. Some fall more on the side of truth; others fall on the side of love. But we need to have both in equal measure. That balance is somewhat difficult to achieve. Jesus did it perfectly. He rebuked those who needed rebuking--the arrogant and prideful who thought they knew better than God Himself and furthermore, deserved to tell Him about it! In addition to the gospels, we can see this rebuke occurring in the Book of Job and the Book of Jonah. Jesus was also gentle and loving with those who needed encouragement--women and especially children. He commended the humility of children and, in fact, said that we must approach our Heavenly Father in humility and trust--as a young child turns to his earthly parents. And Jesus prayed for them all--even those who sent Him to be tortured to death--that the Father would forgive them for their ignorance and hate.

I'm beginning to see that. I honestly wouldn't want to be a pastor today because of the world we're now in. They become a lightning rod if they preach against sin and I think it must be hard to strike a balance between when to speak against sin yet show love. Then we see pastors compromising with the world and that's not good either, but Scripture does give us insight into God:

Romans 11:22 King James Version (KJV)
Behold therefore the goodness and severity of God: on them which fell, severity; but toward thee, goodness, if thou continue in his goodness: otherwise thou also shalt be cut off.
 
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