Philip James
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Kinda Gnostic sounding....
Paul was no Gnostic, but gnostics have indeed abused the things he wrote and taught.
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Kinda Gnostic sounding....
That doesn't actually sound biblical. More like a theory.the work of each will come to light, for the Day will disclose it. It will be revealed with fire, and the fire (itself) will test the quality of each one's work.
If the work stands that someone built upon the foundation, that person will receive a wage.
But if someone's work is burned up, that one will suffer loss; the person will be saved, but only as through fire.
Is it possible to have all that is not of him purged in this life? Yes. But make no mistake, nothing that is not of Him, will abide in His presence..
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Again you are mistaken.
1104 Christian liturgy not only recalls the events that saved us but actualizes them, makes them present. the Paschal mystery of Christ is celebrated, not repeated. It is the celebrations that are repeated, and in each celebration there is an outpouring of the Holy Spirit that makes the unique mystery present.
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Since I quote from the Catechism, how can I misrepresent Catholic doctrine? Which means that Catholics deliberately and dishonestly misrepresent what their church teaches. Check out all the quotations and examine them for yourself. Catholic priests are literally RE-SACRIFICING CHRIST at the Mass, and that is exactly what the CCC says.... Enoch likes to misrepresent Catholic doctrine....
-- AN ACTUAL LITERAL SACRIFICE OF CHRIST BY AN UNAUTHORIZED HUMAN PRIEST AT AN ALTAR?
Ask yourself what the OT priests did.Who are they priests for?
Now you are playing semantic games. How can it be THE SAME SACRIFICE as what occurred historically on Passover in AD 30?What you miss, is that it is not a re-sacrifice, but one and the same sacrifice represented and recelebrated.
I really don't care to debate the above because I do respect the beliefs of the Catholic church.Yes
Possibly. Considering the care taken in the construction and cleansing of the ark of the old covenant, i am not surprised that even more care would be taken in the formation of the ark of the new. I see no reason to doubt this.
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Yes.
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Before or after the creation of the Levicital priesthood?Ask yourself what the OT priests did.
Now you are playing semantic games. How can it be THE SAME SACRIFICE as what occurred historically on Passover in AD 30?
How does the above reconcile with her free will choice to say yes to Gabriel
It's not the same PJ.She had the same freewill choice as Eve. To obey, or not to obey. God did not force Himself on her.
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What was the bread and wine Melchizedek gave Abraham?Hello Enoch,
Because it is the One loaf that Jesus broke and gave to His apostles. It is the One cup that Jesus blessed, 'when the hour had come'.
' you are a priest forever according to the order of Melchizadek'
I dont know how else I can explain it to you, but I will pray for your understanding.
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Hi Pearl,Why do we need priests?
I was pondering this question in my mind yesterday. I can understand why the unsaved or unbelievers might need priests to act as intermediaries between them and God but I can’t understand why those of us who are born again in Christ need priests as the bible calls us a Royal Priesthood. We have direct access to the Father’s throne so we do not need anybody else to access him for us.
But you are a chosen people, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, God’s special possession, that you may declare the praises of him who called you out of darkness into his wonderful light. 1 Peter 2:9
Let us then approach God’s throne of grace with confidence, so that we may receive mercy and find grace to help us in our time of need. Hebrews 4:16
We do however, need people to be there with us and for us; to hold up our arms, to wipe our tears and to share our joy. We do need a support network of other Christians; people who will pray with us and for us, encourage, inspire and help us. We need teachers and preachers and we definitely need wise counsellors and inspirational leaders with passion, vision and enthusiasm.
But we do not need priests.
Hi Willie,It is quite explicit throughout the Bible that we do not need some man who calls himself "Priest."
It is quite explicit throughout the Bible that we do not need some man who calls himself "Priest."
People needed the priests of old as they were the only ones permitted into the Holy of Holies, but Jesus's death split the temple curtain and made it possible for us to approach God directly as our Father.
Sooooooo your theory is if you quote a ex-communicated priest who alleged bizarre conspiracy theories and misrepresented the CC then that is evidence that the CC is evil? Wrong?"Every bishop and priest of the cities of New York and Boston, Chicago, Montreal, Paris, and London, ect., firmly believes and teaches that he has the power to turn all the loaves of their cities, of their dioceses, nay, of the whole world, into the body, blood, soul, and divinity of our Saviour, Jesus Christ. And, though they have never yet found it advisable to do that wonderful miracle, they consider, and say, that to entertain any doubt about the power to perform that marvel, is as criminal as to entertain any doubt about the existence of God....When a priest of Rome, I was bound, with all the Roman Catholics, to believe that Christ had taken His own body, with His own hand, to His mouth; and that He had eaten Himself, not in a spiritual, but in a substantial material way! After eating Himself, He had given it to each of His apostles, who then ate Him also!!
Quoted from Fifty Years in the Church of Rome.
Hi Nancy,Amen Pearl, We can now go boldly before His throne, we need no human being to be the intercessor because we now have direct access through Jesus.
Hi Nancy,
From whom did you get the table of contents for your bible? Man or direct revelation?
James 5:14-16 is rife with intercessor's.
When I pray for you I am an intercessor.
Soooo I am trying to figure out what you mean when you say "we need no human being to be the intercessor".
Mary