Correction on the Trinity.

[justbyfaith]

In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with the Father, and the Word was the Father.

Compare John 1:1 to 1 Corinthians 8:6; and institute the algebraic substitution seen here.

 

[The wind]

In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with the Father, and the Word was the Father.

Compare John 1:1 to 1 Corinthians 8:6; and institute the algebraic substitution seen here.

As it is written: to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in his spirit; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by his Spirit.


The Spirit of Jesus is the way to the Father, the Spirit of Jesus is the truth of the Father and the Spirit of Jesus is the eternal life of the Father: no man comes to the Father but by the Spirit of Jesus.

Ephesians 2:18 King James Version (KJV)
18 For through him we both have access by one Spirit unto the Father.

 

[justbyfaith]

@The wind:

May I ask what Bible translation you are using?

 

[user]

GINOLJC, TO ALL

why jump through hoops, listen, John 14:20 "At that day ye shall know that I am in my Father, and ye in me, and I in you."
John 14:21 "He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him."
John 14:22 "Judas saith unto him, not Iscariot, Lord, how is it that thou wilt manifest thyself unto us, and not unto the world?"
John 14:23 "Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him."
HOLD IT, STOP the press. just think for a min. is the Father in US? yes or no, if the Father sent the H.S. ....... John 14:26 "But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you." what is he (the Father) doing in US if he's the one who "sent" the H.S? and if the Lord (the Son) sent the H.S ....... John 15:26 "But when the Comforter is come, whom I will send unto you from the Father, even the Spirit of truth, which proceedeth from the Father, he shall testify of me:" what is he doing in US if he sent the H.S.?
but clearly our Lord Jesus said, (who cannot lie), "and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him." can the Lord Jesus lie? no he said "WE" meaning the Father and the Son dwelling in us? now my question to you and all, "HOW MANY SPIRIT, OR SPIRIT(S) ARE DWELLING IN US?", that's right only ONE. so he who is called "Father" and he who is called "son" is the same self "Spirit". just aske yourself, who sent whom. for in John 15:26 the Lord Jesus said, "But when the Comforter is come, whom I will send unto you". but did not he, (the Lord Jesus the son), said, in John 14:18 "I will not leave you comfortless: I will come to you.". can JESUS lie? no. so he CAME, but did not he say, John 14:26 "But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send". now you got to be honest with yourself, who sent whom?

lets make is plain for you. Isaiah 48:16 "Come ye near unto me, hear ye this; I have not spoken in secret from the beginning; from the time that it was, there am I: and now the Lord GOD, and his Spirit, hath sent me." many have said that this is the Son who was sent, the Lord Jesus. ok, if that's true, then explain this to me. in Revelation 1:1 "The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him, to shew unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass; and he sent and signified it by his angel unto his servant John:". who is the "he" that sent his angel to John, well the bible answer it self, for in Revelation 22:6 we get the answer as to who sent the angel. listen, "And he said unto me, These sayings are faithful and true: and the Lord God of the holy prophets sent his angel to shew unto his servants the things which must shortly be done.". so the angel clear up the answer as to who sent him, "the Lord God" ..... of the holy prophets, which means the God of the OT as well as the NT, for holy prophets are in both. now, let's see who is the Lord God, for bible answer it self. same book, same chapter now verse 16, Revelation 22:16 "I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star." BINGO, so the "Lord God" is Jesus whom you call the son. ok, hold that thought, and lets go back to saiah 48:16 "Come ye near unto me, hear ye this; I have not spoken in secret from the beginning; from the time that it was, there am I: and now the Lord GOD, and his Spirit, hath sent me." ok, so tell us who was sent?
for if the Lord Jesus, (the son), is the Lord God, ok who was sent?

see, this is why one must say exactly what the bible says. don't add or take away. if one do this the truth will come out plainly.

now, KNOWING that, the question remains who sent whom, (the comforter?). we hope by now that one understand that there is no trinity....... but God is a "diversity" of himself "Shared" in flesh. this is the true oneness of God's plurality .... the G243 allos of himself. for, "And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another (G243 allos) Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever;" that's one Comforter.

PICJAG.

You explained that very well. Many people overlook the Lord's omnipresence. A good example is the conversation Jesus had with a man of the Pharisees, named Nicodemus, a ruler of the Jews. Jesus speaking with him face to face (here on earth) telling him "I am in heaven"...

John 3:13 And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven.


Jesus coming out of the water, The dove desending, and the voice from heaven is the ONE GOD omnipresent ...

Matthew 3:16 And Jesus, when he was baptized, went up straightway out of the water: and, lo, the heavens were opened unto him, and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove, and lighting upon him:

Luke 3:22 And the Holy Ghost descended in a bodily shape like a dove upon him, and a voice came from heaven, which said, Thou art my beloved Son; in thee I am well pleased.

As you know, this does not make God three persons. The one spirit that spoke to Moses through a burning bush, over shadowed Mary and she conceived a seed. That one spirit now inhabits that seed AND remains in heaven (omnipresent). When Mary gave birth, we now have SPIRIT become FLESH. That bouncing baby boy is the ALMIGHTY manifest in the flesh. That is how, and why Jesus can say, "the Father in me, he doeth the works" ... and ... "when you seen me, you've seen the Father."


In the book of John, after the last supper, Jesus has a private conversation with the apostles...

John 14:7 If ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also: and from henceforth ye know him, and have seen him.
[8] Philip saith unto him, Lord, shew us the Father, and it sufficeth us.
[9] Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Shew us the Father?

John 14:16 And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you forever;
[17] Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.
[18] I will not leave you comfortless: I will come to you.


We read that the world cannot see the Holy Spirit, nor does the world know him. Jesus then said "But ye know him". How do the apostles know him? he was not yet sent! Jesus is saying that the one standing here talking to you is the one that will be in you. The one standing here talking to you is the Holy Ghost that will be in you.

Jesus was on earth, under the ministry of redemption. It was expedient that he must first leave so that the Comforter (Holy Spirit) may come. Jesus had to finish the ministry of Redemption, so that he comes back under a new ministry, that of Regeneration (Jesus in us). And which began on the day of Pentecost and continues to this very day.


Spirit of Jesus:

Colossians 1:27 To whom God would make known what is the riches of the glory of this mystery among the Gentiles; which is Christ in you, the hope of glory:

Galatians 4:6 And because ye are sons, God hath sent forth the Spirit of his Son into your hearts, crying, Abba, Father.

Romans 8:9 But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.

1 Corinthians 15:45 And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit.

2 Corinthians 3:17 Now the Lord is that Spirit: and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty.

Ephesians 3:15 Of whom the whole family in heaven and earth is named,
[16] That he would grant you, according to the riches of his glory, to be strengthened with might by his Spirit in the inner man;
[17] That Christ may dwell in your hearts by faith; that ye, being rooted and grounded in love,

1 Peter 1:11 Searching what, or what manner of time the Spirit of Christ which was in them did signify, when it testified beforehand the sufferings of Christ, and the glory that should follow.

1 Peter 1:19 But with the precious blood of Christ, as of a lamb without blemish and without spot:
[20] Who verily was foreordained before the foundation of the world, but was manifest in these last times for you,

1 John 4:13 Hereby know we that we dwell in him, and he in us, because he hath given us of his Spirit.


Again, thank you for your great explanation, I hope my addition for clarification has done it justice.
God bless!

 

[101G]

You explained that very well. Many people overlook the Lord's omnipresence. A good example is the conversation Jesus had with a man of the Pharisees, named Nicodemus, a ruler of the Jews. Jesus speaking with him face to face (here on earth) telling him "I am in heaven"...

John 3:13 And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven.

Correct.

Jesus coming out of the water, The dove desending, and the voice from heaven is the ONE GOD omnipresent ...

Matthew 3:16 And Jesus, when he was baptized, went up straightway out of the water: and, lo, the heavens were opened unto him, and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove, and lighting upon him:

Luke 3:22 And the Holy Ghost descended in a bodily shape like a dove upon him, and a voice came from heaven, which said, Thou art my beloved Son; in thee I am well pleased.

As you know, this does not make God three persons.

As you know, this does not make God three persons, Correct again.

In the book of John, after the last supper, Jesus has a private conversation with the apostles...

John 14:7 If ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also: and from henceforth ye know him, and have seen him.
[8] Philip saith unto him, Lord, shew us the Father, and it sufficeth us.
[9] Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Shew us the Father?

John 14:16 And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you forever;
[17] Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.
[18] I will not leave you comfortless: I will come to you.

Correct again.

We read that the world cannot see the Holy Spirit, nor does the world know him. Jesus then said "But ye know him". How do the apostles know him? he was not yet sent! Jesus is saying that the one standing here talking to you is the one that will be in you. The one standing here talking to you is the Holy Ghost that will be in you.

Correct again.

Jesus was on earth, under the ministry of redemption. It was expedient that he must first leave so that the Comforter (Holy Spirit) may come. Jesus had to finish the ministry of Redemption, so that he comes back under a new ministry, that of Regeneration (Jesus in us). And which began on the day of Pentecost and continues to this very day.

Correct again.

Spirit of Jesus:

all correct.

Again, thank you for your great explanation, I hope my addition for clarification has done it justice.
God bless!

and God bless you. JUSTIC IS DONE. and thank you for your Similar explanation, that's GREAT.

Now, may I might edify you. not saying that you're right or wrong, but this is only for edification, something to consider.

That one spirit now inhabits that seed AND remains in heaven (omnipresent). When Mary gave birth, we now have SPIRIT become FLESH. That bouncing baby boy is the ALMIGHTY manifest in the flesh. That is how, and why Jesus can say, "the Father in me, he doeth the works" ... and ... "when you seen me, you've seen the Father."

yes, that one Spirit was manifested in flesh as you said. but consider this. if that one "Spirit" manifested in flesh, there's one problem with that, and here it is. Philippians 2:7 "But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men:" this Greek word here, "no reputation" is
G2758 κενόω kenoo (ke-no-ō') v.
1. to make empty.
2. (figuratively) to abase, neutralize, falsify.
[from G2756]
KJV: make (of none effect, of no reputation, void), be in vain
Root(s): G2756

see it now? if "THAT ONE" Spirit G2758 κενόω kenoo (ke-no-ō') himself then nothing would uphold itself. now you hit at in what you said, "That one spirit now inhabits that seed AND remains in heaven (omnipresent)." that the sticking point if "THAT ONE SPIRIT" did that in the beginning of that flesh, which is CORRECT. so may we edify you in something you might want to consider. so how did that "one" Spirit inhabit that seed, and at the same time remain in heaven, and keep everything, (the universe), running without being G2758 κενόω kenoo? the answer, right here in Philippians 2, but at verse 6 before verse 7. Philippians 2:6 "Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:"
the term "Form" gives us the first step in this answer. it's the Greek word,
G3444 μορφή morphe (mor-fee') n.which means,
1. form.
2. (intrinsically) fundamental nature.
perhaps from the base of G3313 (through the idea of adjustment of parts)
KJV: form
Root(s): G3313
ok, our Lord's NATURE is the SAME NATURE, definition #2, as you said "THAT ONE SPIRIT". but the root of G3444 μορφή morphe tells us what kind of NATURE that was G2758 κενόω kenoo (ke-no-ō') on earth which is, 1. to make empty. 2. (figuratively) to abase, neutralize, falsify. and that root word is,
G3313 μέρος meros (me'-ros) n.
1. a portion (i.e. an amount allotted, a part of something).
since we know that God is not a "part" of himself, but what's another word for "portion"?answer, SHARE. there's the answer to the G2758 κενόω kenoo, 1. to make empty, problem. as the EQUAL share, that SAME ONE Spirit is now in heaven as always, but also is in the seed/Flesh on earth. so when the Father in heaven say my "Son", he's saying my Flesh/BODY on earth. and when the "Son" on earth, say my Father in heaven, he's saying my "Spirit" in heaven.
so the solution to being that ONE Spirit in heaven and in earth, (G2758 κενόω kenoo) is done by being the "EQUAL "SHARE" of himself in flesh. that's why as in John 14:16 "ANOTHER", G243 allos, which is the same Spirit only shared in flesh standing right there before them.
I hope this helped.
PICJAG.

 

[The wind]

Correct.

As you know, this does not make God three persons, Correct again.

Correct again.

Correct again.

Correct again.

all correct.

and God bless you. JUSTIC IS DONE. and thank you for your Similar explanation, that's GREAT.

Now, may I might edify you. not saying that you're right or wrong, but this is only for edification, something to consider.


yes, that one Spirit was manifested in flesh as you said. but consider this. if that one "Spirit" manifested in flesh, there's one problem with that, and here it is. Philippians 2:7 "But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men:" this Greek word here, "no reputation" is
G2758 κενόω kenoo (ke-no-ō') v.
1. to make empty.
2. (figuratively) to abase, neutralize, falsify.
[from G2756]
KJV: make (of none effect, of no reputation, void), be in vain
Root(s): G2756

see it now? if "THAT ONE" Spirit G2758 κενόω kenoo (ke-no-ō') himself then nothing would uphold itself. now you hit at in what you said, "That one spirit now inhabits that seed AND remains in heaven (omnipresent)." that the sticking point if "THAT ONE SPIRIT" did that in the beginning of that flesh, which is CORRECT. so may we edify you in something you might want to consider. so how did that "one" Spirit inhabit that seed, and at the same time remain in heaven, and keep everything, (the universe), running without being G2758 κενόω kenoo? the answer, right here in Philippians 2, but at verse 6 before verse 7. Philippians 2:6 "Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:"
the term "Form" gives us the first step in this answer. it's the Greek word,
G3444 μορφή morphe (mor-fee') n.which means,
1. form.
2. (intrinsically) fundamental nature.
perhaps from the base of G3313 (through the idea of adjustment of parts)
KJV: form
Root(s): G3313
ok, our Lord's NATURE is the SAME NATURE, definition #2, as you said "THAT ONE SPIRIT". but the root of G3444 μορφή morphe tells us what kind of NATURE that was G2758 κενόω kenoo (ke-no-ō') on earth which is, 1. to make empty. 2. (figuratively) to abase, neutralize, falsify. and that root word is,
G3313 μέρος meros (me'-ros) n.
1. a portion (i.e. an amount allotted, a part of something).
since we know that God is not a "part" of himself, but what's another word for "portion"?answer, SHARE. there's the answer to the G2758 κενόω kenoo, 1. to make empty, problem. as the EQUAL share, that SAME ONE Spirit is now in heaven as always, but also is in the seed/Flesh on earth. so when the Father in heaven say my "Son", he's saying my Flesh/BODY on earth. and when the "Son" on earth, say my Father in heaven, he's saying my "Spirit" in heaven.
so the solution to being that ONE Spirit in heaven and in earth, (G2758 κενόω kenoo) is done by being the "EQUAL "SHARE" of himself in flesh. that's why as in John 14:16 "ANOTHER", G243 allos, which is the same Spirit only shared in flesh standing right there before them.
I hope this helped.
PICJAG.

Receiving the holy Ghost comes with a vision of Christ crucified. This is the manifestation Christ spoke of in John 14 and it is also spoken of in John 6:40 and Galatians 3:1-2.

 

[reformed1689]

GINOLJC, first, you're half way correct, but still fully in error. you said,

if the Son was with the Farther, is not he the same person holding both titles?. listen, John 1:1 "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God." now, if you believe that the son is a separate person from the Father, then you have two Gods, according to the "with", as a separate God, or you fail if you believe the word is a "god". but if not, then it's the same person, per John 1:1c.
PICJAG.

Yet we know they are two different persons. There is clear distinction between Father, Son, and Spirit in the New Testament. You are forcing them into a human construct. There is nothing that says there cannot be three persons of the Trinity that defies One God.

 

[101G]

Yet we know they are two different persons. There is clear distinction between Father, Son, and Spirit in the New Testament. You are forcing them into a human construct. There is nothing that says there cannot be three persons of the Trinity that defies One God.

First thanks for the reply. second, how do you know that they are two different persons? consider this. Isaiah 63:5 "And I looked, and there was none to help; and I wondered that there was none to uphold: therefore mine own arm brought salvation unto me; and my fury, it upheld me."we know that the Lord Jesus is the Spirit/God's "OWN" ARM. now is your ARM a different person from you? of course not. now listen to this. Isaiah 53:1 "Who hath believed our report? and to whom is the arm of the LORD revealed?" 2 "For he shall grow up before him as a tender plant, and as a root out of a dry ground: he hath no form nor comeliness; and when we shall see him, there is no beauty that we should desire him." 3 "He is despised and rejected of men; a man of sorrows, and acquainted with grief: and we hid as it were our faces from him; he was despised, and we esteemed him not."
did you see that? God's "OWN" ARM is a HE, a HIM. is this a different person? no, but a NUMERICAL DIFFERENCE, not in persons, but in NUMBER, but the same PERSON. that why he said in John 14:16 that he pray the Father to send us "ANOTHER" comforter. another here is G243 Allos, which means, the "numerical difference" and denotes another of the same sort. BINGO, there you have it. another, not in Person, but another in NUMBER, see it now? see, the same "SORT" means the "SAME" person. this is how God is ONE, (NUMERICALLY), but yet a plurality of "HIS" OWNSELF. see the titles "Father" and "son" are just that... titles of the same one Person "diversified" or numerically different. BINGO.
so no, not two persons, but two of the ONE same, meaning the "EQUAL" share as Philippians 2:6 points out.
Just remember, a NUMERICAL DIFFERENCE, (the equal share) is the ANOTHER, (the G243 Allos), of oneself in a different form.
Maybe a re-reading of this post is nesseary for clarity and edification.

PICJAG.

 

[reformed1689]

First thanks for the reply. second, how do you know that they are two different persons? consider this. Isaiah 63:5 "And I looked, and there was none to help; and I wondered that there was none to uphold: therefore mine own arm brought salvation unto me; and my fury, it upheld me."we know that the Lord Jesus is the Spirit/God's "OWN" ARM. now is your ARM a different person from you? of course not. now listen to this. Isaiah 53:1 "Who hath believed our report? and to whom is the arm of the LORD revealed?" 2 "For he shall grow up before him as a tender plant, and as a root out of a dry ground: he hath no form nor comeliness; and when we shall see him, there is no beauty that we should desire him." 3 "He is despised and rejected of men; a man of sorrows, and acquainted with grief: and we hid as it were our faces from him; he was despised, and we esteemed him not."
did you see that? God's "OWN" is a HE, a HIM. is this a different person? no, but a NUMERICAL DIFFERENCE, not in persons, but in NUMBER, but the same PERSON. that why he said in John 14:16 that he pray the Father to send us "ANOTHER" comforter. another here is G243 Allos, which means, the "numerical difference" and denotes another of the same sort. BINGO, there you have it. another, not in Person, but another in NUMBER, see it now? see, the same "SORT" means the "SAME" person. this is how God is ONE, (NUMERICALLY), but yet a plurality of "HIS" OWNSELF. see the titles "Father" and "son" are just that... titles of the same one Person "diversified" or numerically different. BINGO.
so no, not two persons, but two of the ONE same, meaning the "EQUAL" share as Philippians 2:6 points out.
Just remember, a NUMERICAL DIFFERENCE, (the equal share) is the ANOTHER, (the G243 Allos), of oneself in a different form.
Maybe a re-reading of this post is nesseary for clarity and edification.

PICJAG.

Ok, so you are using the English language to make your point. However, the Bible was not written in English and it does not always have the same word for God in the orignial languages. That being said, context shows that in the OT it is primarily takling about God the Father. The New Testament shows the clear distinctions.

 

[101G]

The New Testament shows the clear distinctions.

if so, make your point. post your scripture.
PICJAG.

 

[reformed1689]

if so, make your point. post your scripture.
PICJAG.

John 1 makes a clear distinction. Jesus also says he is going to send a helper, the Spirit. The spirit is clearly different than the Father and the Son. Jesus clearly talks to the Father and there is no indication that he is talking to himself. It's all over.

 

[101G]

John 1 makes a clear distinction.

John 1? what. any verse?
PICJAG.

 

[101G]

Well we see no verse given, so we'll go on what you said in the rest of your post, since you think it's over. it haven't started.

Jesus also says he is going to send a helper, the Spirit

he is the helper, scripture, John 14:16 "And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever;" 17 "Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you." 18 "I will not leave you comfortless: I will come to you." there's your helper.

The spirit is clearly different than the Father and the Son.

the Spirit is JESUS, scripture, 1 Peter 1:10 & 11 "Of which salvation the prophets have enquired and searched diligently, who prophesied of the grace that should come unto you:" 11 "Searching what, or what manner of time the Spirit of Christ which was in them did signify, when it testified beforehand the sufferings of Christ, and the glory that should follow." where was the Spirit, the Spirit, the Spirit of Christ at? in the Prophet.

Jesus clearly talks to the Father and there is no indication that he is talking to himself

well don't you talk to yourself? .... (smile).
these are weak excuses for knowledge.
PICJAG.

 

[Philip James]

Not sure what you are intending to say by that...

1/0 = [ (1)+(2)+(3) ]/ 0

I Am (indivisible), the Father, Son and Holy Spirit (indivisible)

Peace be with you!

 

[101G]

I Am (indivisible), the Father, Son and Holy Spirit (indivisible)

Amen to that. "I Am"
PICJAG

 

[reformed1689]

John 1? what. any verse?
PICJAG.

Read the chapter.

 

[101G]

Read the chapter.

I have, and no 3 persons in a trinity are mention.
PICJAG.

 

[reformed1689]

Well we see no verse given, so we'll go on what you said in the rest of your post, since you think it's over. it haven't started.

he is the helper, scripture, John 14:16 "And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever;" 17 "Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you." 18 "I will not leave you comfortless: I will come to you." there's your helper.

the Spirit is JESUS, scripture, 1 Peter 1:10 & 11 "Of which salvation the prophets have enquired and searched diligently, who prophesied of the grace that should come unto you:" 11 "Searching what, or what manner of time the Spirit of Christ which was in them did signify, when it testified beforehand the sufferings of Christ, and the glory that should follow." where was the Spirit, the Spirit, the Spirit of Christ at? in the Prophet.

well don't you talk to yourself? .... (smile).
these are weak excuses for knowledge.
PICJAG.

Wow this clearly shows a lack of interpretive skill. Just because the verse says the word "Spirit" does not mean it is talking about the Holy Spirit.

I have, and no 3 persons in a trinity are mention.
PICJAG.

I didn't say three persons were mentioned in John 1. John 1 makes a clear distinction between Father and Son.

 

[101G]

Wow this clearly shows a lack of interpretive skill. Just because the verse says the word "Spirit" does not mean it is talking about the Holy Spirit.

there is only one "Spirit" the Holy Spirit.

I didn't say three persons were mentioned in John 1. John 1 makes a clear distinction between Father and Son.

we suggest you read our post #28 again.
PICJAG

 

[101G]

Let's shine some light on the use of the titles of "God", whom many assume is the (Father), and the Lord JESUS the (Son). if these two TITLES repersent two separate ... PERSONS, then tell me is the Elect of God, (whom many say is the Father), are different, and or separate from the Elect of our Lord Jesus the (son)? we say the Elect of God is the same Elect of our Lord Jesus, meaning that the titles Father and Son is of the SAME ONE "PERSON".
PICJAG.