Calvinism

[John Caldwell]

Are you saying you don’t understand the gospel?

No. I am saying my understanding of the gospel is not the gospel itself. I am able to separate my understanding from what is actually written in Scripture. Many (like @Preacher4Truth and @David Taylor ) are not. Truth runs through their fingers and they end up only grasping theories and leaning on their understanding.

The gospel of Christ is not Calvinism. It is not Arminianism. It is, in fact, not human wisdom or religious philosophy at all.

 

[reformed1689]

(like @Preacher4Truth and @David Taylor ) are not.

More lies, more slander.

 

[reformed1689]

Contrary to what you say, there is only ONE gospel and it is the gospel of Jesus Christ.

I have never said otherwise. More lies.

 

[John Caldwell]

And would you be willing to post a Baptist distinctive doctrines?

Several are the autonomy of the local church, the priesthood of the believer, and believers baptism.

 

[John Caldwell]

I have never said otherwise. More lies.

It is not a lie, but I may have mistaken others comments for yours (at least one member of your sect here has affirmed that Calvinism is the gospel).

Do you believe that Calvinism is the gospel message? Or do you believe it is your understanding (one understanding among others) about the gospel?

Have you ever considered that what is written in Scripture is really enough - that we do not have to seek out what you call "good theology" by departing from what is written in Scripture to what we believe implied?

The way I left Calvinism was I simply read Scripture and took it at what it says (without all the additions you seem to believe make for "good theology"). If it makes sense without our input then why not just take God at His word?

 

[Waiting on him]

It is not a lie, but I may have mistaken others comments for yours (at least one member of your sect here has affirmed that Calvinism is the gospel).

Do you believe that Calvinism is the gospel message? Or do you believe it is your understanding (one understanding among others) about the gospel?

Have you ever considered that what is written in Scripture is really enough - that we do not have to seek out what you call "good theology" by departing from what is written in Scripture to what we believe implied?

The way I left Calvinism was I simply read Scripture and took it at what it says (without all the additions you seem to believe make for "good theology"). If it makes sense without our input then why not just take God at His word?

You done up and gone lone wolf.
Maybe that’s a poor choice of words.

 

[Grailhunter]

Reasoning with someone that is under the influence of mind-control or Satan is very difficult. But they say not impossible even though most of the time it takes professionals. And there are professionals, there are professional interventionists and people that stand against mind-control organizations. If you get into their literature and talk with them about their experiences you can see this cult technique repeated in these mind control organizations and when a Calvinist or a Jehovah’s Wittiness speaks it like a recording, one like another. The most famous cults make it to the news, but what keeps these organisations busy is Calvinists and Jehovah's Witnesses. Your local law enforcement is likely to know about Calvinists and their cult like behavior, particularly in rural areas where they can get their families out in the woods.

Basic reasoning and intelligence does not work. If it did then they would not be in that religion. It does not take much to understand if you do not have free-will you are an it. A walking robot! Nothing matters, an it on earth, or an it in heaven, what would it matter. A puppet show for God, popcorn……watching the screams of those in hell, popcorn.

Forcing a woman to go to an abortion clinic. Takes off her clothes and lays down and spreads her legs for a monster to murder her baby. God is forcing her to do it? What is Satan and his demons doing? Lapping up the evil. You know sometimes in partial birth abortions the baby screams as he or she is being murdered. Is the Calvinist God enjoying that…He willed it…He wanted it! That is bad…but the thing is, what the Calvinists say God does is 100 million times worse than abortion, because Calvinists say he is doing it to the world!

Well, the mind-controlled stupor I can deal with, it is the slander of God that I will stand against.

 

[Preacher4Truth]

More lies, more slander.

Awww, shucks, some things never change!

The problem is he's been refuted, but cannot accept that fact. Complete waste of time trying to reach a 1 Corinthians 2:14 guy who denies plain Scripture, but, he cannot help it, biblically speaking. I'm saddened he practices lying, slander.

 

[Preacher4Truth]

Reasoning with someone that is under the influence of mind-control or Satan is very difficult. But they say not impossible even though most of the time it takes professionals. And there are professionals, there are professional interventionists and people that stand against mind-control organizations. If you get into their literature and talk with them about their experiences you can see this cult technique repeated in these mind control organizations and when a Calvinist or a Jehovah’s Wittiness speaks it like a recording, one like another. The are famous cults that make the news, but what keeps these organisations busy is Calvinists and Jehovah's Witnesses Your local law enforcement is likely to know about Calvinists and their cult like behavior, particularly in rural areas where they can get their families out in the woods.

Basic reasoning and intelligence does not work. If it did then they would not be in that religion. It does not take much to understand if you do not have free-will you are an it. A walking robot! Nothing matters, an it on earth, or an it in heaven, what would it matter. A puppet show for God, popcorn……watching the screams of those in hell, popcorn.

Forcing a woman to go to an abortion clinic. Takes off her clothes and lays down and spreads her legs for a monster to murder her baby. God is forcing her to do it? What is Satan and his demons doing? Lapping up the evil. You know sometimes in partial birth abortions the baby screams as he or she is being murdered. Is the Calvinist God enjoying that…He willed it…He wanted it! That is bad…but the thing is, what the Calvinists say God does is 100 million times worse than abortion, because Calvinists say he is doing it to the world!

Well, the mind-controlled stupor I can deal with, it is the slander of God that I will stand against.


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Oh, I love the straw man meme that matches your post perfectly! Keep 'em coming!

 

[Grailhunter]

Oh, I love the straw man meme that matches your post perfectly! Keep 'em coming!

Call them up! It is the reality that your mind-control will not allow you to see. Is it fun being an It? A robot? What is your reward, more of it in heaven?

 

[Steve Owen]

Since by these, and similar considerations, Scripture abundantly solaces us for the ignominy or calamities which we endure in defense of righteousness, we are very ungrateful if we do not willingly and cheerfully receive them at the hand of the Lord, especially since this form of the cross is the most appropriate to believers, being that by which Christ desires to be glorified in us, as Peter also declares (1 Pet. 4:11, 14). But as to ingenuous natures, it is more bitter to suffer disgrace than a hundred deaths, Paul expressly reminds us that not only persecution, but also disgrace awaits us, “because we trust in the living God,” (1 Tim. 4:10).

Well Calvin certainly got this bit right. 400 plus years after he died, people are still persecuting him.

 

[Grailhunter]

Oh, I love the straw man meme that matches your post perfectly! Keep 'em coming!

Do you stand in the parking lot of abortion clinics and watch God march women in to kill their babies...? Do you take popcorn! Is this a praying event, where you give glory to God for the slaughter of innocence!

 

[CharismaticLady]

You don't understand the texts above.

ROFL I just love these off the wall comments with no explanation as to why? The first is easy, what you left out would be hard.

 

[Grailhunter]

Well Calvin certainly got this bit right. 400 plus years after he died, people are still persecuting him.

Well it is certainly the religion for those that have a persecution complex.

 

[John Caldwell]

You done up and gone lone wolf.
Maybe that’s a poor choice of words.

I do not know what you mean, but regardless it is probably a poor choice of words. I'm not always the most articulate.

 

[CharismaticLady]

No. I am saying my understanding of the gospel is not the gospel itself. I am able to separate my understanding from what is actually written in Scripture. Many (like @Preacher4Truth and @David Taylor ) are not. Truth runs through their fingers and they end up only grasping theories and leaning on their understanding.

The gospel of Christ is not Calvinism. It is not Arminianism. It is, in fact, not human wisdom or religious philosophy at all.

What I see is the lack of the fruit of the Spirit. Without the Spirit is it any wonder DT can only attack like any accuser of the brethren? No posting of Scripture to refute anything we say. Just vile comments.

 

[John Caldwell]

What I see is the lack of the fruit of the Spirit. Without the Spirit is it any wonder DT can only attack like any accuser of the brethren? No posting of Scripture to refute anything we say. Just vile comments.

I agree.

James White (a Calvinist) once denounced what he referred to as "cage stage" Calvinists by asking if their theology made them more gracious.

What we see on this forum is the result of Calvinism (or at least the result of a type of Calvinism) in the heart of some who hold it. Are they better for it? Does their belief make them Christ-like? The answer of course is no. The fruit bears out the nature of the plant.

 

[CharismaticLady]

I agree.

James White (a Calvinist) once denounced what he referred to as "cage stage" Calvinists by asking if their theology made them more gracious.

What we see on this forum is the result of Calvinism (or at least the result of a type of Calvinism) in the heart of some who hold it. Are they better for it? Does their belief make them Christ-like? The answer of course is no. The fruit bears out the nature of the plant.

I'm only familiar with one James White from history, but he was Arminian. LOL He was in the early 1800's.

 

[reformed1689]

Call them up! It is the reality that your mind-control will not allow you to see. Is it fun being an It? A robot? What is your reward, more of it in heaven?

Sorry but you are the one that sounds like a robot seeing as how you just spit out the same junk over and over and never actually engage an argument.

 

[reformed1689]

What we see on this forum is the result of Calvinism (or at least the result of a type of Calvinism) in the heart of some who hold it. Are they better for it? Does their belief make them Christ-like? The answer of course is no. The fruit bears out the nature of the plant.

More lies, more slander. Ever heard of bearing false witness, that is exactly what you are doing right now. You should repent.