LAW IS NEITHER OBEYED DISOBEYED NOR BROKEN / AN EXISTENTIAL ONTOLOGICAL DISPROOF OF LAW

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I am profoundly impressed that Hegel furthered the enunciation of Spinoza's dictum, and did an excellent rendition/extension thereof. I have about zero direct study of Hegel's written works, and, have mostly knowledge of him through secondary sources, since age fourteen, which is a lot of secondary study of Hegel. My concentration has been very extensively upon Heidegger and Sartre. Sartre's has been the most beneficial writing which I encountered during my forty three years of college matriculation, and, during breaks from enrollment, I laid about my various yachts, re-reading Sartre in order to see if what I thought I had encountered therein was in fact what I had glimpsed there; turned out that my clarified understanding of the double nihilation is the most radically powerful intellectual instrument I have ever mastered, so, I am Sartrian through and through. Sartre's writing is considered the most difficult to understand in the world; so, I have been, in a sense, being unfair to everyone on this site, by employing and confronting them with the most difficult to understand concepts in the world, which, after many decades of study, are now simple for me. Sartre's thought is radically revolutionary, and, it is what I employ as the basis for every one of my positions presented upon this forum; and, by interacting with the Christians here, I have gained an immeasurable amount of cognitive stimulus, which is extremely edifying and uplifting, and, is directing me into a new path I had never ever dreamed I might consider pursuing, i.e., a re-engagement with Christianity.
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"The best cure for Christianity is reading the Bible" imo, and im fairly convinced that bringing the right perspective to Scripture reading will reveal all those guys distilled, at least in a manner of speaking. I enjoyed Hegel and have even been called a nihilist for Quoting all go to the same place and you and your sons will be here with me. nihilists have one part right maybe, but then that becomes the god or something, if not balanced by some realists at least maybe? hegel was extremely idealist eh
 

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Wow, marks, a beautiful sentiment on your part. You are very insightfully correct regarding my presence on this site! After having been here for a while, I am seeing that all this interchange-tension is the kind of edifying mind-stretch you referenced earlier on.
Duane
Right on!

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lol - I thought it was just me.....I was afraid I had a stroke or something!
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I sincerely appreciate your reaction at post#278, and, never responded to your post #268, because I could not definitively determine if you were agreeing with my reaction to 009's internet slang, or what! I am very glad you have made an appearance here on this my thread, and look forward to hearing more from your particular point of view.
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I've followed my own advice and, availed myself of the use of the fingertip world-wide-inter-network-webisphere, in order to possibly achieve comprehension of what 'imo' is supposed to denote. Turns out that there are at least six possible intensions of 'imo', thus, via your employment of internet slang, you throw me into the supernumerary task of resolving, in addition to the normal travail of approximating textual meaning, which of the six possible denotations of 'imo' you are intending to convey! Thereby
it is this...difference in understanding that suggests to me that it is maybe just better to engage someone else right now. Scott is a nihilist, kinda surprised at his absence tbh. I am more interested in the naive dialectic now, and hegel is imo just not up to that

wouldnt it be a lot easier to just ask what imo is, if your search really did not help?
see the premise here is that imo is virtually a household or "netwide" expression anyway, and the context it is used in virtually guarantees only one relevant definition for it. furthemore "in my opinion" is not relevant to the meaning or interpretation of any phrase it is attached to, imo, see, imo what i am saying in this phrase is still preserved?
 
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"The best cure for Christianity is reading the Bible" imo, and im fairly convinced that bringing the right perspective to Scripture reading will reveal all those guys distilled, at least in a manner of speaking. I enjoyed Hegel and have even been called a nihilist for Quoting all go to the same place and you and your sons will be here with me. nihilists have one part right maybe, but then that becomes the god or something, if not balanced by some realists at least maybe? hegel was extremely idealist eh
it is this...difference in understanding that suggests to me that it is maybe just better to engage someone else right now. Scott is a nihilist, kinda surprised at his absence tbh. I am more interested in the naive dialectic now, and hegel is imo just not up to that

wouldnt it be a lot easier to just ask what imo is, if your search really did not help?
it is this...difference in understanding that suggests to me that it is maybe just better to engage someone else right now. Scott is a nihilist, kinda surprised at his absence tbh. I am more interested in the naive dialectic now, and hegel is imo just not up to that

wouldnt it be a lot easier to just ask what imo is, if your search really did not help?
Indeed I did ask you long time ago what imo was attempting to denote. Since you ask, what on earth does prolly mean??
 

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it is this...difference in understanding that suggests to me that it is maybe just better to engage someone else right now. Scott is a nihilist, kinda surprised at his absence tbh. I am more interested in the naive dialectic now, and hegel is imo just not up to that

wouldnt it be a lot easier to just ask what imo is, if your search really did not help?
see the premise here is that imo is virtually a household or "netwide" expression anyway, and the context it is used in virtually guarantees only one relevant definition for it. furthemore "in my opinion" is not relevant to the meaning or interpretation of any phrase it is attached to, imo, see, imo what i am saying in this phrase is still preserved?
Yes, precisely, preserved when you know/what imo proclaims, however, when one has no hint of what imo means, its presence is experienced as a totally distracting/confusing/detracting/painful aberration.
 

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You should not ask such foolish questions! It is what it is, whether it makes good sense to everyone or even to you alone, or not.
If I am honestly confounded by a certain usage, I absolutely permit myself to ask what on earth it is all about, and do not even think to just go along with a mysterious inscrutability, in order to avoid embarrassing myself by possibly appearing foolish. Asking questions is fundamental and is in no way foolish.

Rational convention bars using what is not in Webster's Unabridged English Dictionary, and, it is precisely foolish to use idiosyncratic shorthand and thereby leave the reader marooned.
 
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If I am honestly confounded by a certain usage, I absolutely permit myself to ask what on earth it is all about, and do not even think to just go along with a mysterious inscrutability, in order to avoid embarrassing myself by possibly appearing foolish. Asking questions is fundamental and is in no way foolish.

Rational convention bars using what is not in Webster's Unabridged English Dictionary, and, it is precisely foolish to use idiosyncratic shorthand and thereby leave the reader marooned.
I won't disagree with you about asking questions. I apologize for calling them foolish.

As to Webster's Unabridged English Dictionary, it becomes outdated regularly as time goes by as people add new words to the vocabulary or change the meanings of old ones. I can remember when the word, gay, was used regularly with no connotation relating to same sex connections. Now people rarely use it with the older meaning of, happy and/or carefree, because people would misunderstand.

Did you ever see the movie, My Fair Lady, which was based on a stage play, Pygmalion? If you have ever studied languages or linguistics or phonetics you should have an idea of what is always happening. Webster's only tries to keep up with the changes that people keep making to the language.
 
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I won't disagree with you about asking questions. I apologize for calling them foolish.

As to Webster's Unabridged English Dictionary, it becomes outdated regularly as time goes by as people add new words to the vocabulary or change the meanings of old ones. I can remember when the word, gay, was used regularly with no connotation relating to same sex connections. Now people rarely use it with the older meaning of, happy and/or carefree, because people would misunderstand.

Did you ever see the movie, My Fair Lady, which was based on a stage play, Pygmalion? If you have ever studied languages or linguistics or phonetics you should have an idea of what is always happening. Webster's only tries to keep up with the changes that people keep making to the language.
Nice thinking Amadeus.
If I remember correctly Webster's does list abbreviations; I'll check it out online if it is available in an unabridged edition.
I do not recall seeing My Fair Lady. Yes, I think I have seen two versions of the piece of cinema entitled Pygmalion; the latest with Leslie Howard. He appears to have been primarily concerned with identifying where precisely, geographically, every speaker he encountered was from in the British Isles; I do not remember him being concerned with word meaning.

What I am pointing-out is that a writer who uses abbreviations not contained, or not yet contained in Webster's, is being inappropriate regarding the reader who cannot reference the writer's terminology, in order to find out what is being said. If a writer does not employ standard English his assertions are not an open book to everyone; each one of the seeming inscrutable terms I employ has an established status in standard English and appears in Webster's.
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Yeah, but it’s cool ain’t it? I hope to meet him one day just to see if he uses abbreviations irl.
I decripted that one, in real life. I'll bet a million dollars 009 speaks with abbreviations, which could possibly be fun/funny/comical; there certainly is an element of the comic in so frequently employing abbreviation in both writing and speaking.
 
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Yeah, but it’s cool ain’t it? I hope to meet him one day just to see if he uses abbreviations irl.
The abbreviation for''in my opinion'' does appear in Webster's Dictionary as IMO, in upper case letters only. I forgot to look up 'prolly' there, I'll go back and look 'prolly' up in Webster's...
No, 'prolly' is a no show in Webster's, which does not mean that it is not common usage; it just means that it is unfair to use it as a general rule; so 009 could be brought up on charges and tried for possibly being illicitly abstruse...
 
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Indeed I did ask you long time ago what imo was attempting to denote. Since you ask, what on earth does prolly mean??
ah, i must have missed that, sorry. And see Duane now i know youre yanking me, at prolly, ok, bc there are no six defs for that? Enjoy Hegel ok, but look for where he got it tragically, terminally wrong too imo. Talking to Scott here might help, if he hasnt suicided yet, but basically you might note the "all is vanity" kind of vibe there? In nihilism? "Why bother?"

Grace is, at least imo, the answer. Now that is a religious word, but imo it really just means be forgiving; there is no sin if i overlook offenses done to me, and if i hear when i have offended and respond accordingly, again there is no sin, briefly.

Hegel fails to take into account that laws exist to outline how we sin against others, at least imo, and are not meant to be followed by rote, to the letter, if exigencies dictate otherwise
 
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Yeah, but it’s cool ain’t it? I hope to meet him one day just to see if he uses abbreviations irl.
ha :)
i dont talk irl tho, maybe ten words a day, except to little kids. Not that i wouldnt like to, but adults dont make sense to me, and i dont make sense to them, so i am kind of like the village idiot i guess, pretty much like here? and that works fine for me
 

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ah, i must have missed that, sorry. And see Duane now i know youre yanking me, at prolly, ok, bc there are no six defs for that? Enjoy Hegel ok, but look for where he got it tragically, terminally wrong too imo. Talking to Scott here might help, if he hasnt suicided yet, but basically you might note the "all is vanity" kind of vibe there? In nihilism? "Why bother?"

Grace is, at least imo, the answer. Now that is a religious word, but imo it really just means be forgiving; there is no sin if i overlook offenses done to me, and if i hear when i have offended and respond accordingly, again there is no sin, briefly.

Hegel fails to take into account that laws exist to outline how we sin against others, at least imo, and are not meant to be followed by rote, to the letter, if exigencies dictate otherwise
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I am totally wary of Scott; he is a Willie T type oppressive personality. which enjoys inflicting psychological discomfort on others via cruelly prodding a person without a sound basis in reason, i.e., irrational insult unfairly issued in constantly repeated doses; I can't countenance that kind of misconduct.
I can again find and send you the site with the six definitions and more if I might possibly conquer my lethargy concerning the matter.
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ha :)
i dont talk irl tho, maybe ten words a day, except to little kids. Not that i wouldnt like to, but adults dont make sense to me, and i dont make sense to them, so i am kind of like the village idiot i guess, pretty much like here? and that works fine for me
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Nonetheless, I see an incisive intelligence exhibited by your writing, and when you write without abbreviations your writing is delightful/impressive.

I got that one after a while, irl, in real life..
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I decripted that one, in real life. I'll bet a million dollars 009 speaks with abbreviations, which could possibly be fun/funny/comical; there certainly is an element of the comic in so frequently employing abbreviation in both writing and speaking.
I suppose if you or I had made over 27000 posts here (this forum) and countless posts on a couple of other forums I know of we would be abbreviating repetitive posts too.