I observe the Sabbath on....

[Preacher4Truth]

I find it amusing to read a statement such as this! I can only find one day that our Heavenly Father Sanctified, in all Scripture.
I hope that you also do not believe that Jews actually Killed the Savior, they were proportionate in having Him Condemned, BUT, Roman Soldiers actually put Him to Death. One must come to the realization that His Death was pre-ordained by the Most High. and by the way the Sabbath was not changed By God, But by Man! For the Traditions of Men Make the Word Of God to No Effect.

Acts 2:23 and Acts 5:30 declare the Jews guilty of killing their Christ.

 

[Preacher4Truth]

no where does the scripture say Jesus is our rest in order to replace the Commandment.....that is sleight of hand.

No, it's actually Biblical truth. @Enow answered you. Accept your being refuted.

 

[Preacher4Truth]

So I'll borrow this ... only, thanks,
"Why do bad things happen to good people? That only happened once, and He volunteered." - R.C. Sproul
"The only person in history who did not deserve to suffer, suffered most." - John Piper
“Everything we receive other than eternal damnation is more than we deserve.” - John MacArthur
"Salvation is not a reward for the righteous, it is a gift for the guilty." - Steve Lawson

BUT NO plusses, thanks : Solus Christus ~ Sola Gratia ~ Sola Fide ~ Sola Scriptura ~ Soli Deo Gloria !

Good post! For the record, I always thought R C Sproul made that statement as well, but it was actually R C Sproul Jr. who said it.

 

[VictoryinJesus]

no where does the scripture say Jesus is our rest in order to replace the Commandment.....that is sleight of hand.

Acts 7:46-49 Who found favour before God, and desired to find a tabernacle for the God of Jacob. [47] But Solomon built him an house. [48] Howbeit the most High dwelleth not in temples made with hands; as saith the prophet, [49] Heaven is my throne, and earth is my footstool: what house will ye build me? saith the Lord: or what is the place of my rest?

What is the place of His rest then?
Psalm 28:4-5 Give them according to their deeds, and according to the wickedness of their endeavours: give them after the work of their hands; render to them their desert. [5] Because they regard not the works of the Lord, nor the operation of his hands, he shall destroy them, and not build them up.

What is the operation of His hands?

 

[Seasoned by Grace]

As we can all see this is a topic that will never be settled corporately, but thank the Lord we can settle it in our hearts individually.

I'm sure this "Neutral" statement will draw some "Ire", but as I observe the Sabbath every Sunday, I am at peace in my heart and full of Joy that I was "Called" by the Holy Spirit Himself in Church to begin this one of Gods most Holy of desires for myself, this most gracious gift of His love. I am humbled and look forward to it as a constant reminder that I am one of His chosen, and that I am gifted with the priviledge of obeying the 10 commandments from my heart, not as a work, or as legalism or rule keeping or because I "Should, but because I love my Lord and do both out of deep respect and for Him and because He wants me to have the comfort of rest to look forward to and enjoy - PRAISE GOD.

 

[VictoryinJesus]

I won't answer you because you couldn't care less; as far as you are concerned I am already condemned and already in hell hereafter. <VictoryinJesus>!? How is the Name of the Lord o so holily defamed!

that is not so. Concerning the entering into His rest and ...he who enters into God’s rest ceases from his own works. Just an opinion but evidence seems to support that just because someone keeps the sabbath day of the week, whether one says it is Saturday or Sunday does not assure they have entered into His rest. No where does keeping a day of the week perfectly make one perfect before God. The Pharisees are always an example. In the heart can be just as “hardened” and a man’s own ways remain EVEN though he keeps a sabbath day rest of the week. The only rest that changes the heart, that which is inward, and is sure and unshakable is when a man is given a new heart (by God)and ceases from his own wicked deeds of cursing and poison and departs from his own ways of destruction. This being a work of God even the gates of hell cannot prevail against. Not promoting an image of keeping a day of the week perfectly while still continuing in our own deeds and own ways which lead to death...therefore not ceasing from our own works but deceitfully polishing up the outside of the cup and calling it “His rest.”

 

[Seasoned by Grace]

that is not so. Concerning the entering into His rest and ...he who enters into God’s rest ceases from his own works. Just an opinion but evidence seems to support that just because someone keeps the sabbath day of the week, whether one says it is Saturday or Sunday does not assure they have entered into His rest. No where does keeping a day of the week perfectly make one perfect before God. The Pharisees are always an example. In the heart can be just as “hardened” and a man’s own ways remain EVEN though he keeps a sabbath day rest of the week. The only rest that changes the heart, that which is inward, and is sure and unshakable is when a man is given a new heart (by God)and ceases from his own wicked deeds of cursing and poison and departs from his own ways of destruction. This being a work of God even the gates of hell cannot prevail against. Not promoting an image of keeping a day of the week perfectly while still continuing in our own deeds and own ways which lead to death...therefore not ceasing from our own works but deceitfully polishing up the outside of the cup and calling it “His rest.”

This is the truth about all parts of our lives.
God judges the intentions of the heart whether right or wrong.

 

[GerhardEbersoehn]

I'd rather be a reprobate than an 'Enow' adherent.

 

[GerhardEbersoehn]

just because someone keeps the sabbath day of the week, whether one says it is Saturday or Sunday does not assure they have entered into His rest. No where does keeping a day of the week perfectly make one perfect before God.

No one here, claims <<just because someone does NOT keep the sabbath day of the week>>, it <<assures they have entered into God's rest>>-- except you.

So, no one here says that <<keeping a day of the week perfectly makes one perfect before God>>, and no one here except you, presuppose and imply affirmative that NOT keeping the Sabbath Day makes or at least contributes to one's being made <perfect before God>, which is plain Sunday legalist bigotry of the worst kind.

 

[GerhardEbersoehn]

When they discover they have nothing in favour of their pet idol Sunday sacredness, they resort to searching for the same groundlessness for the Sabbath Day of the LORD GOD.

 

[Enow]

As we can all see this is a topic that will never be settled corporately, but thank the Lord we can settle it in our hearts individually.

I'm sure this "Neutral" statement will draw some "Ire", but as I observe the Sabbath every Sunday, I am at peace in my heart and full of Joy that I was "Called" by the Holy Spirit Himself in Church to begin this one of Gods most Holy of desires for myself, this most gracious gift of His love. I am humbled and look forward to it as a constant reminder that I am one of His chosen, and that I am gifted with the priviledge of obeying the 10 commandments from my heart, not as a work, or as legalism or rule keeping or because I "Should, but because I love my Lord and do both out of deep respect and for Him and because He wants me to have the comfort of rest to look forward to and enjoy - PRAISE GOD.

A point of reconsideration may be necessary is "when" and "if" you judge a believer for not keeping the Sunday "sabbath", then what you had stated for keeping the sabbath is null and void, because "if" you tell them they have to obey to keep it, then no one can see you obeying it because you want to, see?

That is why there is no necessary obedience to keeping the sabbath day because He is in us and with us always for why we are guiltless for profaning the sabbath.

Romans 14:4 Who art thou that judgest another man's servant? to his own master he standeth or falleth. Yea, he shall be holden up: for God is able to make him stand. 5 One man esteemeth one day above another: another esteemeth every day alike. Let every man be fully persuaded in his own mind. 6 He that regardeth the day, regardeth it unto the Lord; and he that regardeth not the day, to the Lord he doth not regard it. He that eateth, eateth to the Lord, for he giveth God thanks; and he that eateth not, to the Lord he eateth not, and giveth God thanks. 7 For none of us liveth to himself, and no man dieth to himself. 8 For whether we live, we live unto the Lord; and whether we die, we die unto the Lord: whether we live therefore, or die, we are the Lord's.

 

[Enow]

I'd rather be a reprobate than an 'Enow' adherent.

One day you will represent Jesus Christ in you for why you are guiltless for profaning the sabbath.

 

[VictoryinJesus]

which is plain Sunday legalist bigotry of the worst kind.

what is “Sunday legalistic bigotry”? you do get you’ve said as far as I’m concerned I don’t care about you and have already condemned you to hell. Then “Sunday legalistic bigotry” is thrown into it. Whose condemned who? I don’t know you, nor have I read enough of your post to know what you are saying. Are you for Sunday worship or Saturday or I asked what is His rest we are to enter into ...to try to understand what you are for or against because honestly I can’t tell either way. Same as I don’t know you...you don’t know me. Do you even know I don’t go to church on Sundays? Or on Saturday’s? Maybe I should but growing up the churches I attended scared the daylights out of me. In the past panic attacks and social phobias kept me from people or any observance of a day with any group. So basically your throwing out things you know nothing about and just falsely stating what you assume...then you speak of bigotry??

 

[VictoryinJesus]

for profaning the sabbath.

how does one profane the sabbath?

 

[GerhardEbersoehn]

No, it's actually Biblical truth. @Enow answered you. Accept your being refuted.

Your chances that your empty and vain arrogations will work with more, mere, repetition, is long since over. People like you are offended that God is LORD of the Sabbath.

 

[GerhardEbersoehn]

Good post! For the record, I always thought R C Sproul made that statement as well, but it was actually R C Sproul Jr. who said it.

Thank you for bringing to attention. I am only a 'sharer' of what others actually post of the Puritans and Evangelicals etc.

 

[GerhardEbersoehn]

As we can all see this is a topic that will never be settled corporately, but thank the Lord we can settle it in our hearts individually.

I'm sure this "Neutral" statement will draw some "Ire", but as I observe the Sabbath every Sunday, I am at peace in my heart and full of Joy that I was "Called" by the Holy Spirit Himself in Church to begin this one of Gods most Holy of desires for myself, this most gracious gift of His love. I am humbled and look forward to it as a constant reminder that I am one of His chosen, and that I am gifted with the priviledge of obeying the 10 commandments from my heart, not as a work, or as legalism or rule keeping or because I "Should, but because I love my Lord and do both out of deep respect and for Him and because He wants me to have the comfort of rest to look forward to and enjoy - PRAISE GOD.

Men think they are going to heaven because they have judged the sincerity of their own decision. Paul Washer

Whatever contradicts the Word of God should be instantly resisted as diabolical. John Bunyan

Hide not the offence of the Gospel lest you make it of no effect. Spurgeon

That spirit which testifies of self is the spirit of Antichrist (according to the Jesus of the Gospel)

 

[GerhardEbersoehn]

Lost spirits convincing not of sin, with power left only to deceive themselves, will testify contrary Scripture to the last, of Self.

'The guidance of the Holy Spirit always prevails' is the latest oldest phrase that means the guidance of Scripture is of no avail.

They who will not have the law to rule them, shall never have the gospel to save them. Thomas Watson,

 

[Enow]

how does one profane the sabbath?

However the scripture condemns someone for profaning the sabbath for. In Matthew 12:1-7, Jesus cited 2 examples in the O.T. on how saints had profaned the sabbath but they were guiltless because they were in the Temple when they had done it. Then Jesus cited One greater than the Temple was here to defend His disciples for collecting corn on the sabbath day to eat.

So regardless of how saints in the O.T. profane the sabbath, whereby 2 examples, they were guiltless because they were in the Temple, His disciples and all believers are guiltless because Jesus is with us.

So we do not have to worry about keeping the sabbath day "perfectly" so we can rest in Him regardless if we are profaning the sabbath, because He is able to make us stand apart from the law of keeping the sabbath day.

 

[Preacher4Truth]

Your chances that your empty and vain arrogations will work with more, mere, repetition, is long since over. People like you are offended that God is LORD of the Sabbath.

No, I'm not offended about that at all my friend.