Virgin Mary Had Other Children After Jesus

[rockytopva]

There is no help for the Catholic Church - everyone called and chosen by God realizes this.
Only a few on earth are born again, set apart by God, as He Says, for His Own Testimony, His Own Purpose.
So much moreso for those in the abomination. When/if / they get saved, they "come out MY PEOPLE" - they cannot remain in it.

My Pentecostal Holiness pastor, pictured below was a great guy. He would have many revivals in a year and we all would attend and leave spiritually refreshed. He once told me that when he first entered the ministry he thought Pentecostal Holiness was the only group truly saved. He said it was like a decade before the Lord showed him the Pentecostal Holiness church was not the only church!

 

[Mungo]

As just noted, I mixed you up with another poster - someone promoting the false gospel of catholicism.

So I do not have an example in mind...

Sorry for the mixup, and I will retract, edit delete my post, if you are truthful. (i.e. if you are opposed to that abomination)

Catholicism is not a false gospel
Yes, I am a Catholic and a follower of the true gospel.

BOL is right when he said "@Joseph77's posts are full of platitudes and standard anti-Catholic slogans - but contain ZERO substance."

 

[Mungo]

So ?
The Roman church slaughtered millions, even of their own people.

Another one of your ludicrous claims.

 

[Joseph77]

WONDerFUL tesTIMOnY !

ha ha typed fast....

My Pentecostal Holiness pastor, pictured below was a great guy. He would have many revivals in a year and we all would attend and leave spiritually refreshed. He once told me that when he first entered the ministry he thought Pentecostal Holiness was the only group truly saved. He said it was like a decade before the Lord showed him the Pentecostal Holiness church was not the only church!

 

[Joseph77]

Another one of your ludicrous claims.

History, unchanged.

 

[Joseph77]

Catholicism is not a false gospel
Yes, I am a Catholic and a follower of the true gospel.

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I do not need to retract my earlier post when I mixed you up with someone else.

 

[rockytopva]

Since it is demonic,

I do not need to retract my earlier post when I mixed you up with someone else.

I have heard that the flesh and the devil are so akin that it is hard to discern between the two. The devil and the flesh has made problems for all denominations.

 

[Joseph77]

I have heard that the flesh and the devil are so akin that it is hard to discern between the two. The devil and the flesh has made problems for all denominations.

Do you know the only way to tell the difference ? (if and when there is a difference) i.e. the truth.

 

[Grailhunter]

THat does not matter.

Well as the English say...You are boring me now. So I am done.

 

[rockytopva]

Do you know the only way to tell the difference ? (if and when there is a difference) i.e. the truth.

You cannot have two read the Bible and come out with exactly the same interpretation. Our interpretation would vary from believer to believer and the word truth can vary as well. The terms of service here declare, "You agree to not use the Service to submit or link to any Content which is defamatory, abusive, hateful, threatening, spam or spam-like, likely to offend." While you can debate the Catholics on the issues you must be careful on how you accuse someone of being demonic.

 

[Mungo]

History, unchanged.

Then produce the history - real history not anti-Catholic fiction.

 

[Mungo]

Since it is demonic,

I do not need to retract my earlier post when I mixed you up with someone else.

It's not demonic.

 

[Joseph77]

You cannot have two read the Bible and come out with exactly the same interpretation. Our interpretation would vary from believer to believer and the word truth can vary as well. The terms of service here declare, "You agree to not use the Service to submit or link to any Content which is defamatory, abusive, hateful, threatening, spam or spam-like, likely to offend." While you can debate the Catholics on the issues you must be careful on how you accuse someone of being demonic.

Who inspired Peter , and Jesus declared: flesh and blood has NOT revealed this to you .....

 

[Taken]

Some gentiles converted to Judaism, and after that , were saved.
In TORAH, in the Old Testament, if a gentile wanted to be saved, to serve God,
the only way they had at that time was to do so with the Jews. (Jews who were faithful to God, not those who opposed Him)

This can still happen today.

Not because of Judaism,

but God's Plan.

In the OT yes.
ONCE Salvation was Revealed is THROUGH Christ...and Christ Jesus revealed...Salvation Is ONLY through Him.


A Jew who remains UNDER the Law..their Choice...which comes with a condition...to Obey the WHOLE Law.

How is that possible, without a Temple in Jerusalem to take a Lamb for slaughter, (their sin offering), and be forgiven ?

Religion / Jewish or Christian, does not Save a man.


Glory to God,
Taken

 

[Jane_Doe22]

Since it is demonic,

I do not need to retract my earlier post when I mixed you up with someone else.

Note: I am not a Catholic. I have no personal dog in this fight.

@Joseph77 , this forum is place where ALL people whom claim Christ as their Savior are acknowledged as Christians. Regardless of their denomination. I'm not a Catholic. I have major problems with some parts of Catholic doctrine. Still, a Catholic is a Christian and my brother/sister in Christ. And I'm not going to bash on my Catholic brother/sister.

If you're not comfortable with that approach and just view certain groups as your brothers/sisters, then you probably would be more comfortable on a forum whose approach matches yours.

 

[BreadOfLife]

There is no help for the Catholic Church - everyone called and chosen by God realizes this.
Only a few on earth are born again, set apart by God, as He Says, for His Own Testimony, His Own Purpose.
So much moreso for those in the abomination. When/if / they get saved, they "come out MY PEOPLE" - they cannot remain in it.

Just out of curiosity - what faith tradition do you adhere to?
In other words - what church or denomination do you belong to.

Just curious because MOST of the anti-Catholics here are afraid to admit which sect they belong to.

 

[BreadOfLife]

So ?
The Roman church slaughtered millions, even of their own people.

History, unchanged.

Historical documentation, please.

This is a common beginner's blunder.
Your more experienced anti-Catholics don't bother making this asinine claim anymore . . .

 

[Joseph77]

In the OT yes.
ONCE Salvation was Revealed is THROUGH Christ...and Christ Jesus revealed...Salvation Is ONLY through Him.


A Jew who remains UNDER the Law..their Choice...which comes with a condition...to Obey the WHOLE Law.

How is that possible, without a Temple in Jerusalem to take a Lamb for slaughter, (their sin offering), and be forgiven ?

Religion / Jewish or Christian, does not Save a man.


Glory to God,
Taken

step by step: (almost rhetorical) Is Jesus Saved ?
of course.
Did Jesus perfectly honor His Father God Almighty Creator ?
yes.
Did Jesus "lose" His Salvation(bear with me) because He honored His Father God Almighty Creator ?
?
.... no

That seems silly, weird, or strange ?

Well, if someone following, trusting, by faith, obeying Jesus is Saved,
then if they as a disciple honor His Father God Almighty Creator
would they lose their salvation because they honored His Father God Almighty Creator ?
?

 

[Paul Christensen]

Not trying to be evasive. I have read so much about the Catholics religion that I would not be surprised if you found something about flying saucers with pig faced vampires. It is the largest religion in the world and people will say the darn'dess things about it. Not only that Catholicism has its regiion


Not trying to be evasive. I have read so much about the Catholic religion that I would not be surprised if you found something about flying saucers with pig-faced vampires. It is the largest religion in the world and people will say the darn'dess things about it. Not only that, Catholicism has its regional differences. Catholics in Italy, Spain, USA, and South America have some particular differences…whether it is in the administration or the pews. Administration, I refer to administration as anything above the priest or preacher. I have no interest in the politics of any religion or denomination and I fellowship with denominations that I do not believe everything they believe. The Protestants fractured the Church…but Christ let them, it has been 2000 years, so I wonder if it is test…do we really understand the overall concept of Christianity? Or are we going to spend eternity quibbling and hating each other over the details. Total reality, awareness, and God….is well beyond our complete comprehension, it is like the lobster arguing with the shrimp in comparison to the reality that God knows. I think He would give more credit to the lobster that loves the shrimp.

My interests are mostly about the Christians in the Pews, and that is where my loyalty lies. Here I defend the Catholics…on this forum and elsewhere I have defended the Eastern Orthodox Church, the Mormons and those that believe in the works and movements of the Holy Spirit, those that believe in laying on of hands and oil for healings, those that believe in tongues and those that believe in prophecy and the mystics that communicate with the divine. I believe in the total equal status of women in all levels of society and in the Church and also I have defended science.

So, as I said, I defend Christians.

Rat poison is 99.6% great food for rats! But it is the .4% poison that kills them stone dead.

The RCC has many good, sound, Scriptural doctrines, that many in the Church are genuinely saved. I have no doubt about that. I am not anti-Catholic. My wife was brought up and educated Catholic. I went on a site that contained the Hail Mary and other Catholic prayers, and she could recite them from memory! I heard her aunt sing "Ave Maria" beautifully, and she has a cousin who is a Catholic priest.

But, the RCC has certain doctrines that are the equivalent to rat poison for Christian believers - prayers to Mary and the Saints, worshiping the container that contains the wafer, kneeling and worshiping statues of Mary and Christ, the pagan Mass, confessing to a mortal priest instead of directly to God, faith plus works, observing the authority of the pope and following his teaching instead of listening to the indwelling Holy Spirit. Because these doctrines are killers that poison the faith of true believers, then I am in opposition to them, and can have no fellowship with those doctrines.

 

[Jane_Doe22]

Rat poison is 99.6% great food for rats! But it is the .4% poison that kills them stone dead.

The RCC has many good, sound, Scriptural doctrines, that many in the Church are genuinely saved. I have no doubt about that. I am not anti-Catholic. My wife was brought up and educated Catholic. I went on a site that contained the Hail Mary and other Catholic prayers, and she could recite them from memory! I heard her aunt sing "Ave Maria" beautifully, and she has a cousin who is a Catholic priest.

But, the RCC has certain doctrines that are the equivalent to rat poison for Christian believers - prayers to Mary and the Saints, worshiping the container that contains the wafer, kneeling and worshiping statues of Mary and Christ, the pagan Mass, confessing to a mortal priest instead of directly to God, faith plus works, observing the authority of the pope and following his teaching instead of listening to the indwelling Holy Spirit. Because these doctrines are killers that poison the faith of true believers, then I am in opposition to them, and can have no fellowship with those doctrines.

Calling someone's deeply held beliefs "rat poison" is being anti that group.

A much more respectful stance would be to "respectfully & passionately disagree". Acknowledge the good, acknowledge the bad. Skip the part where comparing someone's treasured beliefs with dead rodents.