Are Protestants "saved? "

[Eternally Grateful]

Salvation is not a reward for obeying the commandments and doing good works???

Jesus disagrees with you: Mark 10:19-21

Nope

Well if your perfect yes

but If not

then you need saved

last I heard no one is perfect

 

[Joseph77]

You the second catholic person who called someone who disagree with them trolls

nice going

No. Over a billion catholics do that. They all do what their heirarchy tell them. (if they are "faithful catholics", so-called) .

 

[Yehren]

It does not matter

It matters a lot. If you you adhere to the legalistic, ritualistic idea of "faith only", then it has replaced scripture in your heart.

That's not a good thing.

 

[Joseph77]

Salvation is not a reward for obeying the commandments and doing good works???

Jesus disagrees with you: Mark 10:19-21

See Jesus' Word - it is you He disagrees with.


Ephesians 2:9 New Living Translation (NLT)

9 Salvation is not a reward for the good things we have done, so none of us can boast about it.

 

[Marymog]

Ephesians 2:9 New Living Translation (NLT)
9 Salvation is not a reward for the good things we have done, so none of us can boast about it.

How deceitful. Why did u leave out vs 10? For we are what he has made us, created in Christ Jesus for good works,

 

[Marymog]

See Jesus' Word - it is you He disagrees with.


Ephesians 2:9 New Living Translation (NLT)

9 Salvation is not a reward for the good things we have done, so none of us can boast about it.

How deceitful. Why did u leave out vs 10? For we are what he has made us, created in Christ Jesus for good works,....

 

[Marymog]

You the second catholic person who called someone who disagree with them trolls

nice going

He fits the definition: troll is a person who starts quarrels or upsets people on the Internet to distract and sow discord by posting inflammatory and digressive, extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community.

 

[Marymog]

Nope

Well if your perfect yes

but If not

then you need saved

last I heard no one is perfect

Jesus said salvation is the reward. You say it isn’t....hmmmm...who should I believe

 

[Joseph77]

How deceitful. Why did u leave out vs 10? For we are what he has made us, created in Christ Jesus for good works,....

Post the whole chapter - why are you bearing false witness ? Just because you know you are wrong ?

Nothing you posted shows that salvation is a reward for good works. We (who are in Christ Jesus, not those outside of Him),

"are what HE MADE US, CREATED IN CHRIST JESUS FOR GOOD WORKS" FOR GOOD WORKS - NOT SAVED BY THEM. See - we who are in Christ Jesus, and not in the false believers groups,
ARE CREATED FOR GOOD WORKS. But even we who are saved, are not saved as a reward for doing good works.

 

[Joseph77]

Jesus said salvation is the reward. You say it isn’t....hmmmm...who should I believe

Bearing false witness again. Jesus did not say that - you mis-quoted or said what is not even in Scripture as if it was.

 

[Joseph77]

He fits the definition: troll is a person who starts quarrels or upsets people on the Internet to distract and sow discord by posting inflammatory and digressive, extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community.

Should everyone then just let the ones condemned for their unbelief as shown in many posts,
continue to be condemned , and not warn them of the judgment they are already under ?

 

[Eternally Grateful]

It matters a lot. If you you adhere to the legalistic, ritualistic idea of "faith only", then it has replaced scripture in your heart.

That's not a good thing.

Lol

faith only is not legalistic, it is someone sitting still because they have become poor in spirit, and letting god Save them

the pharisees thought they were saved by their ritualistic works of the law

you think think your saved by your ritualistic sacraments of the church

see the resemblance

 

[Eternally Grateful]

Jesus said salvation is the reward. You say it isn’t....hmmmm...who should I believe

Nope jesus said it was the gift of God that whoever believes will be given eternal life

your using a descriptive passage not prescriptive, you ignore all of them

 

[Joseph77]

Ephesians 2 New International Version (NIV)
Made Alive in Christ
2 As for you, you were dead in your transgressions and sins, 2 in which you used to live when you followed the ways of this world and of the ruler of the kingdom of the air, the spirit who is now at work in those who are disobedient. 3 All of us also lived among them at one time, gratifying the cravings of our flesha]">[a] and following its desires and thoughts. Like the rest, we were by nature deserving of wrath. 4 But because of his great love for us, God, who is rich in mercy, 5 made us alive with Christ even when we were dead in transgressions—it is by grace you have been saved. 6 And God raised us up with Christ and seated us with him in the heavenly realms in Christ Jesus, 7 in order that in the coming ages he might show the incomparable riches of his grace, expressed in his kindness to us in Christ Jesus. 8 For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith—and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God— 9 not by works, so that no one can boast. 10 For we are God’s handiwork, created in Christ Jesus to do good works, which God prepared in advance for us to do.

Jew and Gentile Reconciled Through Christ
11 Therefore, remember that formerly you who are Gentiles by birth and called “uncircumcised” by those who call themselves “the circumcision” (which is done in the body by human hands)— 12 remember that at that time you were separate from Christ, excluded from citizenship in Israel and foreigners to the covenants of the promise, without hope and without God in the world. 13 But now in Christ Jesus you who once were far away have been brought near by the blood of Christ.

14 For he himself is our peace, who has made the two groups one and has destroyed the barrier, the dividing wall of hostility, 15 by setting aside in his flesh the law with its commands and regulations. His purpose was to create in himself one new humanity out of the two, thus making peace, 16 and in one body to reconcile both of them to God through the cross, by which he put to death their hostility. 17 He came and preached peace to you who were far away and peace to those who were near. 18 For through him we both have access to the Father by one Spirit.

19 Consequently, you are no longer foreigners and strangers, but fellow citizens with God’s people and also members of his household, 20 built on the foundation of the apostles and prophets, with Christ Jesus himself as the chief cornerstone. 21 In him the whole building is joined together and rises to become a holy temple in the Lord. 22 And in him you too are being built together to become a dwelling in which God lives by his Spirit.

Footnotes:

1. Ephesians 2:3 In contexts like this, the Greek word for flesh (sarx) refers to the sinful state of human beings, often presented as a power in opposition to the Spirit.

See Jesus' Word - it is you He disagrees with.
Ephesians 2:9 New Living Translation (NLT)
9 Salvation is not a reward for the good things we have done, so none of us can boast about it.

How deceitful. Why did u leave out vs 10? For we are what he has made us, created in Christ Jesus for good works,....

As a catholic? or for another reason? , you leave out the true meaning of every verse. Thus, every verse , you are opposed to, so far in your posts.

 

[Joseph77]

you think think your saved by your ritualistic sacraments of the church

If someone posts that, as if yes, it is true, as if they really believe that,

if someone comes back from the dead to warn them, will they listen ?

 

[Marymog]

Should everyone then just let the ones condemned for their unbelief as shown in many posts,
continue to be condemned , and not warn them of the judgment they are already under ?

Condemned by you? I’m not concerned about that.

Ylou could show grace instead of troll like qualities

 

[Joseph77]

Condemned by you? I’m not concerned about that.

Ylou could show grace instead of troll like qualities

Did you even read the post at all ? Condemned NOT by me, see? By your own words. By unbelief in many posts.

Grace is bringing this to light, so all who will may repent and be saved. (this is GOOD, see?)

SO , then, Is your use of calling followers of Jesus trolls, interesting ?, revealing blindness in your eyes./ self/ soul/ spirit/ mind ?

 

[Marymog]

Bearing false witness again. Jesus did not say that - you mis-quoted or said what is not even in Scripture as if it was.

If salvation isn’t the reward for having faith and doing good works then what is the reward kiddo?

 

[Marymog]

Did you even read the post at all ? Condemned NOT by me, see? By your own words. By unbelief in many posts.

Grace is bringing this to light, so all who will may repent and be saved. (this is GOOD, see?)

SO , then, Is your use of calling followers of Jesus trolls, interesting ?, revealing blindness in your eyes./ self/ soul/ spirit/ mind ?

Lol....the comedy show continues. On this forum you have REGULARLY condemned all Catholics. So please stop pretending that you haven’t kiddo

 

[Joseph77]

Lol....the comedy show continues. On this forum you have REGULARLY condemned all Catholics. So please stop pretending that you haven’t kiddo

Martin Luther was a catholic a long time. He repented. So he is not condemned.
Same with others.
So no, it is not catholics who are condemned, but those who condemn themselves (catholic or other) with their own words/ their own posts.
Anyone who comes to Jesus, with Godly sorrow, repenting, as written in BIBLE, Jesus will not cast out.