God Changes?

[marks]

(edit to add . . . this is regarding those who may claim that Jesus does not eternally co-exist with the Father, for instance, that Jesus is a created being. If we were to say that the Father created the Son, we would then have to go on to say that . . . )

The God, the Father, that Creates the Son changes from a God who does not love, and becomes one that does.

Malachi prophesies, I YHWH change not. Therefore this cannot be true.

In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

God is love, and God loves the Son. If God were alone before the creation of the Son, there was no one to love. Not Himself, that's a self-indulgent love. God is love, and has always loved.

There was not a time when God decided that He wanted to start loving, and so created an object of that love.

Let's say that's exactly what God did, created an object of His love so that He could love. Do you see it? God then reveals He has a need that must be fulfilled by His creation. He wanted to love, but had none to love, so He made someone to love.

But "I YHWH change not". God has always loved, and shares the love He has always had with us.

Much love!

 

[reformed1689]

The God, the Father, that Creates the Son changes from a God who does not love, and becomes one that does.

While Malachi prophesies, I YHWH change not.

In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

God is love, and God loves the Son. If God were alone before the creation of the Son, there was none to love. Not Himself, that's a self-indulgent love. God is love, and has always loved.

There was not a time when God decided that He wanted to start loving, and so created an object of that love.

Let's say that's exactly what God did, created an object of His love so that He could love. Do you see it? God then reveals He has a need that must be fulfilled by His creation. He wanted to love, but had none to love, so He made someone to love.

But "I YHWH change not". God has always loved, and shares the love He has always had with us.

Much love!

This is nonsense.

 

[marks]

This is nonsense.

That's ridiculous.

 

[Waiting on him]

The God, the Father, that Creates the Son changes from a God who does not love, and becomes one that does.

While Malachi prophesies, I YHWH change not.

In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

God is love, and God loves the Son. If God were alone before the creation of the Son, there was none to love. Not Himself, that's a self-indulgent love. God is love, and has always loved.

There was not a time when God decided that He wanted to start loving, and so created an object of that love.

Let's say that's exactly what God did, created an object of His love so that He could love. Do you see it? God then reveals He has a need that must be fulfilled by His creation. He wanted to love, but had none to love, so He made someone to love.

But "I YHWH change not". God has always loved, and shares the love He has always had with us.

Much love!

Isaiah 43:19 KJV
Behold, I will do a new thing; now it shall spring forth; shall ye not know it? I will even make a way in the wilderness, and rivers in the desert.

 

[Waiting on him]

That's ridiculous.

A new threshing instrument with teeth.

 

[marks]

A new threshing instrument with teeth.

I'm hoping he will see irony and be more forthcoming.

 

[marks]

Isaiah 43:19 KJV
Behold, I will do a new thing; now it shall spring forth; shall ye not know it? I will even make a way in the wilderness, and rivers in the desert.

Doing something new is one thing. God is love . . . but if He was alone in the beginning, then how would that be true?

The best answer I've heard is that God anticipated His creation, and loved it, however, that would mean that God's nature is dependant on His creation. I don't think that is so.

Much love!

 

[reformed1689]

That's ridiculous.

Ridiculous that your post says God can change and that is a lie? No, that's not ridiculous.

 

[marks]

Ridiculous that your post says God can change and that is a lie? No, that's not ridiculous.

I think you need to read it again.

My whole point is that God does not change.

 

[Waiting on him]

Doing something new is one thing. God is love . . . but if He was alone in the beginning, then how would that be true?

The best answer I've heard is that God anticipated His creation, and loved it, however, that would mean that God's nature is dependant on His creation. I don't think that is so.

Much love!

Isaiah 65:17 KJV
For, behold, I create new heavens and a new earth: and the former shall not be remembered, nor come into mind.


Psalm 19:1-5 KJV
The heavens declare the glory of God; and the firmament sheweth his handywork. [2] Day unto day uttereth speech, and night unto night sheweth knowledge. [3] There is no speech nor language, where their voice is not heard. [4] Their line is gone out through all the earth, and their words to the end of the world. In them hath he set a tabernacle for the sun, [5] Which is as a bridegroom coming out of his chamber, and rejoiceth as a strong man to run a race.

My wife and I happen to believe this is prophetic of the Apostles of Christ.

I do hope your thread is edifying!

 

[Waiting on him]

I think you need to read it again.

My whole point is that God does not change.

Though our opinion may?

 

[Philip James]

Isaiah 43:19 KJV
Behold, I will do a new thing; now it shall spring forth; shall ye not know it? I will even make a way in the wilderness, and rivers in the desert.

The Spirit and the bride say, "Come." Let the hearer say, "Come." Let the one who thirsts come forward, and the one who wants it receive the gift of life-giving water.

Peace be with you!

Christ is risen!
Alleluia!

 

[marks]

Though our opinion may?

Many things may change. But God does not.

 

[marks]

God doesn't become something new for our sakes. He is our Father because He has always been the Father. Not that He became Fatherly, took on the role, as it were. God remains true to Himself - the beauty of holiness - and therefore we receive of His goodness. Because this is Who God is.

He has always loved, always been fatherly, and extends this to us . . . In Christ, His Son.

Much love!

 

[FHII]

Many things may change. But God does not.

This is really close to what I was going to post. I was going to say, "God may change things, but he himself doesn't change".

 

[Mungo]

The God, the Father, that Creates the Son changes from a God who does not love, and becomes one that does.

The Father did not create the Son.

 

[marks]

The Father did not create the Son.

Exactly my point!

 

[reformed1689]

I think you need to read it again.

My whole point is that God does not change.

I reread it but WOW that was about the most unclear and confusing post ever.

 

[marks]

I reread it but WOW that was about the most unclear and confusing post ever.

Thank you!!

 

[reformed1689]

Thank you!!

Which is the exact opposite of what you should be when discussing theology.