Covid-19: The White Horse

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Hidden In Him

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Hundreds of theories have been presented on what the 1st Horseman of the Apocalypse might be. When I first saw the following video a few weeks ago, I was initially skeptical. But after realizing what a catastrophic situation we have on our hands, I am now convinced that the following interpretation is actually correct, and we are now living in the days when the first seal of Revelation 6:1-2 has been broken, and the White Horse has now been released upon the earth.

Don't let the lack of activity at CF fool you. This went largely under the radar, but I think he was indeed correct.

God bless,
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He makes the argument that "toxon", translated bow, should be "toxin", and with a crown, corona in the Latin, ergo, coronavirus.

Revelation 6:2 "And I saw, and behold a white horse: and he that sat on him had a bow; and a crown was given unto him: and he went forth conquering, and to conquer."

Should we think that this is right because toxon sounds like toxin? Or does it mean "bow", as in bow and arrow?

This is from the Septuagint:

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kai apolo to toxon sou apo tes xeiros sou tes aristeras . . .

3 And I will smite thy bow out of thy left hand, and will cause thine arrows to fall out of thy right hand.

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He makes the argument that "toxon", translated bow, should be "toxin", and with a crown, corona in the Latin, ergo, coronavirus.

Revelation 6:2 "And I saw, and behold a white horse: and he that sat on him had a bow; and a crown was given unto him: and he went forth conquering, and to conquer."

Should we think that this is right because toxon sounds like toxin? Or does it mean "bow", as in bow and arrow?

This is from the Septuagint:

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kai apolo to toxon sou apo tes xeiros sou tes aristeras . . .

3 And I will smite thy bow out of thy left hand, and will cause thine arrows to fall out of thy right hand.

Much love!


Greetings, Marks.

He's tracing the etymology through toxikos, of the same family. Both are defined using the word "archery" on occasions, with the latter being used more specifically of "poison used to smear arrows with." (Liddell-Scott, P.1805).

toxic | Origin and meaning of toxic by Online Etymology Dictionary
 

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Greetings, Marks.

He's tracing the etymology through toxikos, of the same family. Both are defined using the word "archery" on occasions, with the latter being used more specifically of "poison used to smear arrows with." (Liddell-Scott, P.1805).

toxic | Origin and meaning of toxic by Online Etymology Dictionary

toxic (adj.)
1660s, from French toxique and directly from Late Latin toxicus "poisoned," from Latin toxicum "poison," from Greek toxikon (pharmakon) "(poison) for use on arrows," from toxikon, neuter of toxikos "pertaining to arrows or archery," and thus to a bow, from toxon "bow," probably from a Scythian word that also was borrowed into Latin as taxus "yew." Watkins suggests a possible source in Iranian taxša- "bow," from PIE *tekw- "to run, flee." As a noun from 1890.

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Hi HIH,

If I'm understanding this correctly, it's saying "toxic" derived from the practice of putting poison on arrows, so came from a word meaning 'having to do with archery', which came from the word for "bow".

OK, except that it was the word used for bow, so why isn't he saying that "Toxon" is a bow? Or why wouldn't it have said "toxicon" if that is the word for poison?

This is suggesting that we shouldn't think of toxon as a bow, because words that were derived from it were used to mean different things.

My Greek teacher would have laughed me out of the room. His favorite example was "mystery", I think because he wanted us to remember this one in particular. Our mystery is a puzzle to be figured out half the time. Musterion is something that will never be known without divine revelation.

But derivitives of words don't change the meanings of those words.

I don't see this to provide much foundation for thinking Covid is the white horse of the apocalypse. I have seen a number of different ways people are saying this was prophesied.

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Hundreds of theories have been presented on what the 1st Horseman of the Apocalypse might be. When I first saw the following video a few weeks ago, I was initially skeptical. But after realizing what a catastrophic situation we have on our hands, I am now convinced that the following interpretation is actually correct, and we are now living in the days when the first seal of Revelation 6:1-2 has been broken, and the White Horse has now been released upon the earth.

Don't let the lack of activity at CF fool you. This went largely under the radar, but I think he was indeed correct.

God bless,
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OK, except that it was the word used for bow, so why isn't he saying that "Toxon" is a bow?

He does say toxon is a bow.

Transcript: "The Greek word used here for bow is toxon, which is where we get the English words 'toxic' and 'toxin.' This bow is not an ordinary bow. This bow is a biological weapon. It is used for firing poisoned arrows. So the rider of the white horse has a crown, and he has a bow that fires poison arrows."
 

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But what about the Spanish Flu?
Or bubonic plague....


These would both fit well in a more Historicist interpretation of Revelations. Only I'm not a Historicist, I'm a Futurist. Part of the reason is because I believe Historicists stretch the fulfillment of prophecy out too far. I believe the events described from Chapter 5 on take place together in a particular time in history, and I believe it is beginning now. That is not to say the Book in its entirety will be fulfilled within 7 years, or even 50. But I view them as destined to be fulfilled as a composite during a single time period in history, not spread out over centuries.

I have some good friends who are Historicists, however, and they would strongly disagree with me, potentially turning this into a very long discussion that I'm not sure I want to get into, LoL.
 

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Did I just see "Chicken Little" run by !?!?!?


LoL. If the sky is falling, it's not falling on me. Not worried, nor am I telling the members here to be. Quite the opposite. Just to have their spiritual eyes open, and "be watching unto prayers."

What's that matter, you think I'm getting too dark these days or something? : )
 
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LoL. If the sky is falling, it's not falling on me. Not worried, nor am I telling the members here to be. Quite the opposite. Just to have their spiritual eyes open, and "be watching unto prayers."

What's that matter, you think I'm getting too dark these days or something? : )
Oh, the idea is interesting enough. It's just that equating everything that comes down the road to the book of Revelation does get a bit tiresome. LOL
 

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Oh, the idea is interesting enough. It's just that equating everything that comes down the road to the book of Revelation does get a bit tiresome. LOL


Oh. Yes, it does, LoL. I think it's why I almost didn't give his video a look, and why this thread isn't getting much attention yet either : )

Chicken Little has done his evil work. Somebody should have cooked and eaten him the first time he started opening his big fat mouth, LoL.
 
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Oh, the idea is interesting enough. It's just that equating everything that comes down the road to the book of Revelation does get a bit tiresome. LOL

A lot of "heavy readers" out there. :rolleyes:

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Seriously, so the last days STARTED 2000 years ago ......and you are believing 100% that the first seal...is the Covid 19 ... please remember that coronvirus is the umbrella word for EVERY cold and flu virus that has ever been infecting people ......So using ‘ the crown ‘ as reference to this particular strain as being linked to white horse and the rider wearing a Crown .......is somewhat ‘ out of sinc ‘ because colds and flu have been around for some considerable time !!!!!!!
But you are personally convinced it is true................interesting !!!! Think you need to test a few things before you post them HIH, it’s not helping your credibility x
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Seriously, so the last days STARTED 2000 years ago ......and you are believing 100% that the first seal...is the Covid 19 ... please remember that coronvirus is the umbrella word for EVERY cold and flu virus that has ever been infecting people ......So using ‘ the crown ‘ as reference to this particular strain as being linked to white horse and the rider wearing a Crown .......is somewhat ‘ out of sinc ‘ because colds and flu have been around for some considerable time !!!!!!!
But you are personally convinced it is true................interesting !!!! Think you need to test a few things before you post them HIH, it’s not helping your credibility x
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Hi @Rita; in WW2 some prophetic enthusiasts believed that Mussolini was the man of sin heading the revived Roman Empire.....and then they hanged him (and his lady friend) from lamp post in Milan; but the prophetic enthusiasts didn't say, Hey, sorry, we were wrong! instead, when the state of Israel was established they went on to claim that the Lord was therefore just about to come....well, maybe not now but next month, or next year, or...... (etc.)

So the lesson is always for prophetic enthusiasts not to speculate.

Instead we seek by God's grace to be faithful as we await His return, but meanwhile seek to serve Him.
 
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Hi @Rita; in WW2 some prophetic enthusiasts believed that Mussolini was the man of sin heading the revived Roman Empire.....and then they hanged him (and his lady friend) from lamp post in Milan; but the prophetic enthusiasts didn't say, Hey, sorry, we were wrong! instead, when the state of Israel was established they went on to claim that the Lord was therefore just about to come....well, maybe not now but next month, or next year, or...... (etc.)

So the lesson is always for prophetic enthusiasts not to speculate.

Instead we seek by God's grace to be faithful as we await His return, but meanwhile seek to serve Him.
The bible talks about there being false prophets, and false messages - but it doesn’t mean they are all false ....it just means you have to test and approve things ....and time is one of those tests.
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