True Trinity.

[101G]

GINOLJC, to all.
First thanks for the reply, second,

God is outside of time; and descended to be a Man who dwelt in the confines of the time domain.

this is Another ERROR on your Part, because as you said, " all of God descended to be a Man who dwelt in the confines of the time". that's an oxymoron on your part. if all of God came in Time then you mute your own point. which still leave you with how God remain ETERNAL, and yet all of God came into Time and space as a man. see you problem? you have no scripture nor anything to back that up with, meaning you have no answer. you have no research to prove your point.

now if someone just don't understand, and you have provided all the resources for them to understand, then it's on them. one can only bring people to the water, but you cannot make them drink. so one can only provide the necessary tools, (understanding), for them to drink, and if they do or don't it wouldn't be on you, YOU HAVE DID YOUR JOB THAT GOD REQUIRE, IT WILL BE ON THEM AND GOD TO RESOLVE. but at least give them some sense of direction, (scripture, back-up by research), to lead them to the water, the drinking is up to them.

Here I will go with something that @amadeus has said:

That sometimes in order to come to the proper conclusions, you have to empty yourself of those old things that get in the way.

well please take his advice.... (smile).

Here, if you have built gold, sliver, and precious gems upon the solid foundation of Jesus Christ, it is not wise to tear down what you have built. But if you have built upon that foundation wood, hay, stubble, tearing down is the thing to do; before you will be able to build what is right and proper on the same foundation:

Oh, this suppose to be a throw off scripture because you cannot answer my question... .. lol.
now right in that verse you gave, if I built such, it is not tested by fire?, but I have suffered no loss...

see you keep crying about, "You just need to take the time to understand". but you haven't put anything on the table for me to understand. I have put scripture and word definition on the table for you edification. and for your clarification. I'm not going to beg anyone to please understand what I have posted, no. everyone today have an education, at least a public education, people can read. but you see JBF, only the Lord Jesus can open a closed heart, and a closed Mind.

tell me JBF, what word definition have you given to support what you say? ... .... ZERO, you expect people to just believe because you say so? no, put something on the solid foundation so that people can read and understand what you're saying. change is not easy for everyone, I know this, but I just keep putting it before people faces, because one day, if I'm alive or dead, someone will REAS & understand what I been saying. that is my goal, if "ONLY" ONE understand, as the scriptures states all of heaven rejoice over the one. so I'm like the turtle in the race, unchangable, (the same yesterday, today, and for evermore), determine, durable, Trustworthy, because I do my homework. Stable, (not double-minded), I say the same thing, nothing is change in my doctrine that the Lord have given me. this is so, because I have decided to follow the Lord Jesus.

understand this JBF, "Diversified Oneness" is what the Lord Jesus taught his disciple, and apostles, and all early church member knew this. the bible is all of this. as the Holy Ghost said through his apostle, Romans 1:16 "For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek."

 

[101G]

God in heaven who is spirit was present in the Son, both in the Spirit (the invisible God) and in the male side of the flesh. Mary only contributed her own DNA which was miniscule when compared to the might and power of the Father.
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First thanks for the reply, second, you said, "God in heaven who is spirit was present in the Son", God the Holy Spirit is in the Son, but can you tell us how God the Spirit was in Heaven at the same time he was in the Son in a G2758 κενόω kenoo (ke-no-ō') state? I'll be looking for that answer, thanks in advance.

Mary only contributed her own DNA which was miniscule when compared to the might and power of the Father.

Mary the woman, contribuite NOTHING in the contribution of the conception of that flesh and bone with blood she bore. as said she was only a surrogate who carried what was in her womb. no DNA from any human was involved.

Cooper, don't take this the wrong, Jesus is never born....... he came. only the body he came in was born, and it was made by him for him... (smile). listen, Luke 1:35 "And the angel answered and said unto her, The Holy Ghost shall come upon thee, and the power of the Highest shall overshadow thee: therefore also that holy thing which shall be born of thee shall be called the Son of God". Son of God is flesh and bone, Mary and no human had any DNA involved. notice what doctor Luke noted: "and the power of the Highest shall overshadow thee"
overshadow is the Greek word, G1982 ἐπισκιάζω episkiazo (ep-ee-skee-ad'-zo) v.
1. to cast a shade upon
2. (by analogy) to envelop in a haze of brilliancy
3. (figuratively) to invest with preternatural influence

what do preternatural means? , "out of the ordinary course of nature; exceptional or abnormal". the meaning here, not in the natural way of conception between a man and a women. other words NO SPERM, AND NO EGG is used.

so no, Mary's DNA was not used.

see, all this about Mary's DNA and ect.... this is what the Holy Ghost was saying, Romans 1:21 "Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened."
Romans 1:22 "Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,"

this is what happening today, men think that they are wise, but are fools. scripture, 1 Corinthians 1:19 "For it is written, I will destroy the wisdom of the wise, and will bring to nothing the understanding of the prudent."1 Corinthians 1:20 "Where is the wise? where is the scribe? where is the disputer of this world? hath not God made foolish the wisdom of this world?"

PICJAG

 

[101G]

Yeshua is a God, but He is not the only one. He has a Father and His only designation is Son, not just another God.

first thanks for the reply, second, I would like to zero in on your first part of your statement, you said, "Yeshua is a God, but He is not the only one". let's see if this hold up to bible, scripture, Isaiah 44:8 "Fear ye not, neither be afraid: have not I told thee from that time, and have declared it? ye are even my witnesses. Is there a God beside me? yea, there is no God; I know not any."

well Grailhunter, God has just contridicted your statement. there is no "God", and that's God with the capital "G" in God, beside him, nor do he know of any. now if he don't know of any other "GOD" how do you?. so please point out you assessment of "ANOTHER" God that's not Jesus/Yeshua..

will be looking for your answer.

PICJAG.

 

[Grailhunter]

first thanks for the reply, second, I would like to zero in on your first part of your statement, you said, "Yeshua is a God, but He is not the only one". let's see if this hold up to bible, scripture, Isaiah 44:8 "Fear ye not, neither be afraid: have not I told thee from that time, and have declared it? ye are even my witnesses. Is there a God beside me? yea, there is no God; I know not any."

well Grailhunter, God has just contridicted your statement. there is no "God", and that's God with the capital "G" in God, beside him, nor do he know of any. now if he don't know of any other "GOD" how do you?. so please point out you assessment of "ANOTHER" God that's not Jesus/Yeshua..

will be looking for your answer.

PICJAG.

"Yeshua is a God, but He is not the only one". let's see if this hold up to bible, scripture, Isaiah 44:8 "Fear ye not, neither be afraid: have not I told thee from that time, and have declared it? ye are even my witnesses. Is there a God beside me? yea, there is no God; I know not any."

Absolutely correct! One God in the Old Testament! Please keep that in mind! Judaism was absolutely monotheist. At one time God's name was in the Old Testament...Yahweh etc....over 6,000 times and then His name was removed and replaced with God or Lord. 28,000 alterations to remove God's name and put in a generic designator. Then Christians see the word God and oh oh that is the Trinity! No it was Yahweh or the Tetragrammaton. Yeshua and the Holy Spirit are not there by names.

One God. The Jews were looking for a human warlord messiah king. God the Son came instead....Son of God....God had a Son. God did not have Himself...God did not give Himself....God the Father was not crucified. God the Son and God the Father as they talked their way though the Gospels showed without a doubt that they had two wills, two presences, in two places....The Father is greater than I, I do the will of the Father, the Father gave authority to the Son...The Apostles referred to Yahweh as God and Yeshua as Lord. My father in heaven, Christ ascended to the Father. A couple hundred scriptures that prove this right.

 

[101G]

"Yeshua is a God, but He is not the only one". let's see if this hold up to bible, scripture, Isaiah 44:8 "Fear ye not, neither be afraid: have not I told thee from that time, and have declared it? ye are even my witnesses. Is there a God beside me? yea, there is no God; I know not any."

Absolutely correct! One God in the Old Testament! Please keep that in mind! Judaism was absolutely monotheist. At one time God's name was in the Old Testament...Yahweh etc....over 6,000 times and then His name was removed and replaced with God or Lord. 28,000 alterations to remove God's name and put in a generic designator. Then Christians see the word God and oh oh that is the Trinity! No it was Yahweh or the Tetragrammaton. Yeshua and the Holy Spirit are not there by names.

One God. The Jews were looking for a human warlord messiah king. God the Son came instead....Son of God....God had a Son. God did not have Himself...God did not give Himself....God the Father was not crucified. God the Son and God the Father as they talked their way though the Gospels showed without a doubt that they had two wills, two presences, in two places....The Father is greater than I, I do the will of the Father, the Father gave authority to the Son...The Apostles referred to Yahweh as God and Yeshua as Lord. My father in heaven, Christ ascended to the Father. A couple hundred scriptures that prove this right.

first thanks for the reply, second, we'll lets see if what you say holds up. and please don't that this as an argument ok. we will go step by step and discuss this by the scriptures ok,

#1. You said, "God the Son came instead....Son of God....God had a Son. God did not have Himself...God did not give Himself....God the Father was not crucified".
let's see what the scriptures say. Isaiah 63:5 "And I looked, and there was none to help; and I wondered that there was none to uphold: therefore mine own arm brought salvation unto me; and my fury, it upheld me."
Grailhunter, who is God "OWN ARM?" please provide scripture.

PICJAG.

 

[Grailhunter]

first thanks for the reply, second, we'll lets see if what you say holds up. and please don't that this as an argument ok. we will go step by step and discuss this by the scriptures ok,

#1. You said, "God the Son came instead....Son of God....God had a Son. God did not have Himself...God did not give Himself....God the Father was not crucified".
let's see what the scriptures say. Isaiah 63:5 "And I looked, and there was none to help; and I wondered that there was none to uphold: therefore mine own arm brought salvation unto me; and my fury, it upheld me."
Grailhunter, who is God "OWN ARM?" please provide scripture.

PICJAG.

Isaiah 63:5 "And I looked, and there was none to help; and I wondered that there was none to uphold: therefore mine own arm brought salvation unto me; and my fury, it upheld me."
Is this the "Arm God" The Old Testament is a big book, perusing through the Old Testament you find a number of things you are looking for. It would not take much study for you look into Judaism and see that they were looking for a human messiah that would see his offspring. It would not take much study in Jewish history to see that before Christ the Jews were looking at human military leaders as possible messiahs.

 

[101G]

Isaiah 63:5 "And I looked, and there was none to help; and I wondered that there was none to uphold: therefore mine own arm brought salvation unto me; and my fury, it upheld me."
Is this the "Arm God" The Old Testament is a big book, perusing through the Old Testament you find a number of things you are looking for. It would not take much study for you look into Judaism and see that they were looking for a human messiah that would see his offspring. It would not take much study in Jewish history to see that before Christ the Jews were looking at human military leaders as possible messiahs.

first thanks for the reply, second, that's an old Unitarian belief that has been disproved. did you not say, "God the Son came instead". so lets stay on subject. again is not the Son God's OWN "ARM"? yes, so my question still stand, How is the Son God's "OWN ARM". scripture please.

PICJAG.

 

[Grailhunter]

first thanks for the reply, second, that's an old Unitarian belief that has been disproved. did you not say, "God the Son came instead". so lets stay on subject. again is not the Son God's OWN "ARM"? yes, so my question still stand, How is the Son God's "OWN ARM". scripture please.

PICJAG.

That is how you get 30,000 Protestant religions....People will take anything and form religious beliefs on it. The Arm God better have a torso and legs. and his legs and torso are his own. In the meantime while you are playing Mr. Potato head the Jews believe in one God...Yahweh. Christians believe in God the Father and God the Son and God the Holy Spirit.
1 + 1+ 1 = 3 1. Yahweh 2. Yeshua 3. Holy Spirit.

 

[Cooper]

First thanks for the reply, second, you said, "God in heaven who is spirit was present in the Son", God the Holy Spirit is in the Son, but can you tell us how God the Spirit was in Heaven at the same time he was in the Son in a G2758 κενόω kenoo (ke-no-ō') state? I'll be looking for that answer, thanks in advance.


Mary the woman, contribuite NOTHING in the contribution of the conception of that flesh and bone with blood she bore. as said she was only a surrogate who carried what was in her womb. no DNA from any human was involved.

Cooper, don't take this the wrong, Jesus is never born....... he came. only the body he came in was born, and it was made by him for him... (smile). listen, Luke 1:35 "And the angel answered and said unto her, The Holy Ghost shall come upon thee, and the power of the Highest shall overshadow thee: therefore also that holy thing which shall be born of thee shall be called the Son of God". Son of God is flesh and bone, Mary and no human had any DNA involved. notice what doctor Luke noted: "and the power of the Highest shall overshadow thee"
overshadow is the Greek word, G1982 ἐπισκιάζω episkiazo (ep-ee-skee-ad'-zo) v.
1. to cast a shade upon
2. (by analogy) to envelop in a haze of brilliancy
3. (figuratively) to invest with preternatural influence

what do preternatural means? , "out of the ordinary course of nature; exceptional or abnormal". the meaning here, not in the natural way of conception between a man and a women. other words NO SPERM, AND NO EGG is used.

so no, Mary's DNA was not used.

see, all this about Mary's DNA and ect.... this is what the Holy Ghost was saying, Romans 1:21 "Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened."
Romans 1:22 "Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,"

this is what happening today, men think that they are wise, but are fools. scripture, 1 Corinthians 1:19 "For it is written, I will destroy the wisdom of the wise, and will bring to nothing the understanding of the prudent."1 Corinthians 1:20 "Where is the wise? where is the scribe? where is the disputer of this world? hath not God made foolish the wisdom of this world?"

PICJAG

I suggest you get a life outside the forums, bye, bye.
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[101G]

That is how you get 30,000 Protestant religions....People will take anything and form religious beliefs on it. The Arm God better have a torso and legs. and his legs and torso are his own. In the meantime while you are playing Mr. Potato head the Jews believe in one God...Yahweh. Christians believe in God the Father and God the Son and God the Holy Spirit.
1 + 1+ 1 = 3 1. Yahweh 2. Yeshua 3. Holy Spirit.

First thanks for the reply, second, that 1+1+1=3 is an ERROR, and we'll put those legs and torso, on ONLY ONE PERSON, GOD, who is JESUS in the Flesh. listen and learn. scripture,
Isaiah 53:1 "Who hath believed our report? and to whom is the arm of the LORD revealed?" (OK, the ARM of God is about to be Revealed).
Isaiah 53:2 "For he shall grow up before him as a tender plant, and as a root out of a dry ground: he hath no form nor comeliness; and when we shall see him, there is no beauty that we should desire him." WOW, The ARM of God is a "HE", a "HIM", God himself "diversified" in flesh).
Isaiah 53:3 "He is despised and rejected of men; a man of sorrows, and acquainted with grief: and we hid as it were our faces from him; he was despised, and we esteemed him not."
Isaiah 53:4 "Surely he hath borne our griefs, and carried our sorrows: yet we did esteem him stricken, smitten of God, and afflicted."
Isaiah 53:5 "But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and with his stripes we are healed."(Grailhunter, is this not the SON? yes, God himself "diversified"/the Offspring in Flesh)
Isaiah 53:6 "All we like sheep have gone astray; we have turned every one to his own way; and the LORD hath laid on him the iniquity of us all."
Isaiah 53:7 "He was oppressed, and he was afflicted, yet he opened not his mouth: he is brought as a lamb to the slaughter, and as a sheep before her shearers is dumb, so he openeth not his mouth."

Grailhunter, is this not the SON? yes, God's own "ARM" that came in flesh. see it now, God's own ARM is a he just like in Genesis 1:26 ... and 27. this is the plurility of God coming in Flesh. BINGO. and yes, IN FLESH, do we really need to prove that?

so Grailhunter, Isaiah said, "do you believe his REPORT?".......... (smile)....

now your response.

PICJAG.

 

[Grailhunter]

First thanks for the reply, second, that 1+1+1=3 is an ERROR, and we'll put those legs and torso, on ONLY ONE PERSON, GOD, who is JESUS in the Flesh. listen and learn. scripture,
Isaiah 53:1 "Who hath believed our report? and to whom is the arm of the LORD revealed?" (OK, the ARM of God is about to be Revealed).
Isaiah 53:2 "For he shall grow up before him as a tender plant, and as a root out of a dry ground: he hath no form nor comeliness; and when we shall see him, there is no beauty that we should desire him." WOW, The ARM of God is a "HE", a "HIM", God himself "diversified" in flesh).
Isaiah 53:3 "He is despised and rejected of men; a man of sorrows, and acquainted with grief: and we hid as it were our faces from him; he was despised, and we esteemed him not."
Isaiah 53:4 "Surely he hath borne our griefs, and carried our sorrows: yet we did esteem him stricken, smitten of God, and afflicted."
Isaiah 53:5 "But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and with his stripes we are healed."(Grailhunter, is this not the SON? yes, God himself "diversified"/the Offspring in Flesh)
Isaiah 53:6 "All we like sheep have gone astray; we have turned every one to his own way; and the LORD hath laid on him the iniquity of us all."
Isaiah 53:7 "He was oppressed, and he was afflicted, yet he opened not his mouth: he is brought as a lamb to the slaughter, and as a sheep before her shearers is dumb, so he openeth not his mouth."

Grailhunter, is this not the SON? yes, God's own "ARM" that came in flesh. see it now, God's own ARM is a he just like in Genesis 1:26 ... and 27. this is the plurility of God coming in Flesh. BINGO. and yes, IN FLESH, do we really need to prove that?

so Grailhunter, Isaiah said, "do you believe his REPORT?".......... (smile)....

now your response.

PICJAG.

I am not going to address all of this because I am not a Jew. If you throw a much of Hebrew Bible stuff at me I am going to suggest you look into Judaism. And then for certain Yeshua was the Son of God....and the Son had a Father and then there was the Holy Spirit. If you like the three aspects of one God, you should consider Paganism, I hear the Goddess is really neat.

 

[101G]

I am not going to address all of this because I am not a Jew. If you throw a much of Hebrew Bible stuff at me I am going to suggest you look into Judaism. And then for certain Yeshua was the Son of God....and the Son had a Father and then there was the Holy Spirit. If you like the three aspects of one God, you should consider Paganism, I hear the Goddess is really neat.

first thanks for the reply, second, cop out? or just arguing from ignorance? and Paganism? .... lol.
well I'm not a Jewish outwardly, but I am a Jew inwardly, (Romans 2:28 & 29).

with that out of the way, when it come to God, OT who is the Christ diversified in flesh, NT, this is my concern,
1 Corinthians 10:32 "Give none offence, neither to the Jews, nor to the Gentiles, nor to the church of God:"
1 Corinthians 10:33 "Even as I please all men in all things, not seeking mine own profit, but the profit of many, that they may be saved."

so this, "I'm not a Jew thing", is only an excuse.

you said, "And then for certain Yeshua was the Son of God". well ERROR, Yeshua is the Son of man that dwelt in the flesh body that was born of Mary called the Son of God. I see why you didn't answer. because Yeshua, (who is Spirit) is not born, the Son of God is Born. the Son of Man, Yeshua, came out of Heaven, the Son of God came out of Mary, out of the tribe of Juda... (smile).

If you throw a much of Hebrew Bible stuff at me I am going to suggest you look into Judaism.

well this is not Hebrew Bible stuff, but God stuff... .. oh well,

God did not have Himself...God did not give Himself....God the Father was not crucified. God the Son and God the Father as they talked their way though the Gospels showed without a doubt that they had two wills, two presences, in two places....The Father is greater than I, I do the will of the Father, the Father gave authority to the Son...The Apostles referred to Yahweh as God and Yeshua as Lord. My father in heaven, Christ ascended to the Father. A couple hundred scriptures that prove this right.

ok, let's work where you suggest. you said, "The Apostles referred to Yahweh as God and Yeshua as Lord". ok, let's work there.
Acts chapter 9. on the road to Damascus, an encounter happen, correct. did Saul, later Paul, encounted the "Lord" whom you say is Yeshua, or did he encounter, Yahweh who you calls "God".

your answer please.

PICJAG.

 

[Grailhunter]

first thanks for the reply, second, cop out? or just arguing from ignorance? and Paganism? .... lol.
well I'm not a Jewish outwardly, but I am a Jew inwardly, (Romans 2:28 & 29).

with that out of the way, when it come to God, OT who is the Christ diversified in flesh, NT, this is my concern,
1 Corinthians 10:32 "Give none offence, neither to the Jews, nor to the Gentiles, nor to the church of God:"
1 Corinthians 10:33 "Even as I please all men in all things, not seeking mine own profit, but the profit of many, that they may be saved."

so this, "I'm not a Jew thing", is only an excuse.

you said, "And then for certain Yeshua was the Son of God". well ERROR, Yeshua is the Son of man that dwelt in the flesh body that was born of Mary called the Son of God. I see why you didn't answer. because Yeshua, (who is Spirit) is not born, the Son of God is Born. the Son of Man, Yeshua, came out of Heaven, the Son of God came out of Mary, out of the tribe of Juda... (smile).

well this is not Hebrew Bible stuff, but God stuff... .. oh well,

ok, let's work where you suggest. you said, "The Apostles referred to Yahweh as God and Yeshua as Lord". ok, let's work there.
Acts chapter 9. on the road to Damascus, an encounter happen, correct. did Saul, later Paul, encounted the "Lord" whom you say is Yeshua, or did he encounter, Yahweh who you calls "God".

your answer please.

PICJAG.

you said, "And then for certain Yeshua was the Son of God". well ERROR, Yeshua is the Son of man that dwelt in the flesh body that was born of Mary called the Son of God. I see why you didn't answer. because Yeshua, (who is Spirit) is not born, the Son of God is Born. the Son of Man, Yeshua, came out of Heaven, the Son of God came out of Mary, out of the tribe of Juda... (smile).

That is Miriam in the scriptures by the way. Funny story why they changed it.

Acts chapter 9. on the road to Damascus, an encounter happen, correct. did Saul, later Paul, encounted the "Lord" whom you say is Yeshua, or did he encounter, Yahweh who you calls "God".

If you read chapter 9 you know the answer to that. So what is your point?

 

[101G]

you said, "And then for certain Yeshua was the Son of God". well ERROR, Yeshua is the Son of man that dwelt in the flesh body that was born of Mary called the Son of God. I see why you didn't answer. because Yeshua, (who is Spirit) is not born, the Son of God is Born. the Son of Man, Yeshua, came out of Heaven, the Son of God came out of Mary, out of the tribe of Juda... (smile).

That is Miriam in the scriptures by the way. Funny story why they changed it.

Acts chapter 9. on the road to Damascus, an encounter happen, correct. did Saul, later Paul, encounted the "Lord" whom you say is Yeshua, or did he encounter, Yahweh who you calls "God".

If you read chapter 9 you know the answer to that. So what is your point?

first thanks for the reply, second, my point is, "Yeshua", is Lord & God...... (smile).

so now, care to address my question,.

PICJAG.

 

[justbyfaith]

which still leave you with how God remain ETERNAL, and yet all of God came into Time and space as a man. see you problem? you have no scripture nor anything to back that up with, meaning you have no answer. you have no research to prove your point.

Jhn 3:22, After these things came Jesus and his disciples into the land of Judaea; and there he tarried with them, and baptized.

Jhn 6:1, After these things Jesus went over the sea of Galilee, which is the sea of Tiberias.

Jhn 7:1, After these things Jesus walked in Galilee: for he would not walk in Jewry, because the Jews sought to kill him.

Jhn 21:1, After these things Jesus shewed himself again to the disciples at the sea of Tiberias; and on this wise shewed he himself.

tell me JBF, what word definition have you given to support what you say? ... .... ZERO,

I hold that the English words are adequate for us to understand what is being said. The common understanding of the definitions of the words in question is most often the rendering that gives God's understanding.

There is no need to engage in strifes about words (see 2 Timothy 6:3-4, 2 Timothy 2:14).

what do preternatural means? , "out of the ordinary course of nature; exceptional or abnormal". the meaning here, not in the natural way of conception between a man and a women. other words NO SPERM, AND NO EGG is used.

so no, Mary's DNA was not used.

Again I would bring up Galatians 4:4...

Gal 4:4, But when the fulness of the time was come, God sent forth his Son, made of a woman, made under the law,

...Since you didn't appear to be able to see it the last time.

It is out of the ordinary course of nature for a woman to have a seed (Genesis 3:15). A man has a seed; a woman has an egg.

And for a woman to supernaturally conceive without a male sperm being involved is in fact a miracle; and it is thus out of the ordinary course of nature.

 

[101G]

Jhn 3:22, After these things came Jesus and his disciples into the land of Judaea; and there he tarried with them, and baptized.

Jhn 6:1, After these things Jesus went over the sea of Galilee, which is the sea of Tiberias.

Jhn 7:1, After these things Jesus walked in Galilee: for he would not walk in Jewry, because the Jews sought to kill him.

Jhn 21:1, After these things Jesus shewed himself again to the disciples at the sea of Tiberias; and on this wise shewed he himself.



I hold that the English words are adequate for us to understand what is being said. The common understanding of the definitions of the words in question is most often the rendering that gives God's understanding.

There is no need to engage in strifes about words (see 2 Timothy 6:3-4, 2 Timothy 2:14).



Again I would bring up Galatians 4:4...

Gal 4:4, But when the fulness of the time was come, God sent forth his Son, made of a woman, made under the law,

...Since you didn't appear to be able to see it the last time.

It is out of the ordinary course of nature for a woman to have a seed. A man has a seed; a woman has an egg.

And for a woman to supernaturally conceive without a male sperm being involved is in fact a miracle; and it is thus out of the ordinary course of nature.

None of that address anything. maybe you might want to Address, and help Grailhunter out here on Acts chapter 9, which will directly address your in time and out of time mistake... concering God who is JESUS alone. take a bite... (smile)

PICJAG.

 

[101G]

@justbyfaith and @Grailhunter I'm going to be out for a few, but check your I's and make sure you cross your T's on Acts chapter 9.

be back soon.

PICJAG.

 

[justbyfaith]

None of that address anything. maybe you might want to Address, and help Grailhunter out here on Acts chapter 9, which will directly address your in time and out of time mistake... concerning God who is JESUS alone. take a bite... (smile)

PICJAG.

I am not really saying anything any more for your benefit (but will continue to post here for the benefit of others).

You have obviously closed your mind to the truth that I am proclaiming.

 

[justbyfaith]

but check your I's and make sure you cross your T's on Acts chapter 9.

Any specific verses in the chapter that you want us to look at?

 

[101G]

Any specific verses in the chapter that you want us to look at?

Acts Chapter 9 is about Paul, then Saul conversion correct. well Grailhunter made this statement,

Yeshua is a God, but He is not the only one

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and then he said, this,

The Apostles referred to Yahweh as God and Yeshua as Lord.

well this event here in Acts chapter 9 will disprove Grailhunter assumption of more than ONE God, and that the "Lord" is Yeshua only.

and at the same time disprove your belief of a God left in Heaven and he's all God in flesh that came. but Acts chapter 9 destroys all those notions, because the one whom you say inhabits eternity is JESUS the Christ, and it will reveals who it is in Isaiah 57:15. ...... (smile). so "choose" any scripture verse to support any Idea of a ONE GOD who inhabits eternity alone.... and we say it is JESUS Christ.

NOW back to our original question, "was it the "Lord", or the one whom Grailhunter calls "Yahweh", or as he say is "God", or who many say is the "Father"..... now study the EVENT that happen to saul on the Damascus Road and tell us who did he encounter?

PICJAG.