Is Trump also among the prophets?

[lforrest]

Heard that President Trump said the following: "You know what that is? That's right. That's God testing me. He said, You know, you did it once. And I said, 'Did I do a great job, God? I'm the only one who could do it.' He said that you shouldn't say. Now we're going to have you do it again. I said, 'OK. I agree. You got me.' But I did it once. And now I'm doing it again. And you see the kind of numbers that we're putting up. They're unbelievable. Best job numbers ever. Three months, more jobs in the last three months than ever before."

I can see Trump boasting to God, and there being consequences. But the conclusion Trump reaches about being tested by God reveals he is still an immature Christian. The present pandemic and subsequent economic consequences are not God's doing. Though God could have prevented them, that is not always his prerogative to do so.

 

[Taken]

Heard that President Trump said the following: "You know what that is? That's right. That's God testing me. He said, You know, you did it once. And I said, 'Did I do a great job, God? I'm the only one who could do it.' He said that you shouldn't say. Now we're going to have you do it again. I said, 'OK. I agree. You got me.' But I did it once. And now I'm doing it again. And you see the kind of numbers that we're putting up. They're unbelievable. Best job numbers ever. Three months, more jobs in the last three months than ever before."

I can see Trump boasting to God, and there being consequences. But the conclusion Trump reaches about being tested by God reveals he is still an immature Christian. The present pandemic and subsequent economic consequences are not God's doing. Though God could have prevented them, that is not always his prerogative to do so.

Personally I think is Trump is a Typical American of his age group:
Is happy with his accomplishments;
Takes care of his family;
Is generous with his means;
Says what he thinks;
Works hard;
Likes to socialize;
Doesn't enjoy constant Daggers in his back;
No reservation talking about God.

I hope Trump talks to God...and If Trump thinks God is with him...Good!
Everyone is Tested. (And it is sometimes quite evident when some people Reject God after they lose something / person or thing.)

I don't get your point how that is Trump boasting to God?
I also don't get how or why the Pandemic and economy comment being blamed on God is being connected to Trump?

Glory to God,
Taken

 

[Bobby Jo]

Given my expectation, which seems to have a "supporting theme" in the Christian community -- I expect that Trump is not only a "prophet" as defined by being one of the Two Witnesses, with Pence being the second; but as intonated, will suffer the DEATH of being a "prophet":

Matt. 23:30 saying, ‘If we had lived in the days of our fathers, we would not have taken part with them in shedding the blood of the prophets.’ 31 Thus you witness against yourselves, that you are sons of those who murdered the prophets.​

So YEAH, I anticipate that Trump IS a prophet. And he and Pence will ascend accordingly. :)
Bobby Jo

 

[bukka]

I don't think of Trump as being "among the prophets", despite some surface similarities with King Saul. I think it would be interesting to compare Donald Trump to King Saul in this thread.

Regrettably, I cannot think of him as being a Christian. How can one be a Christian who says that he doesn't have to repent, to say he's not sorry or hasn't made a mistake? If one has difficulty saying these things, how can this one truly love another person or any others?

Mary Trump, in her book, Too Much and Never Enough, narrates the emotionally harsh upbringing that Donald Trump has suffered through when he was young. It makes for grim reading. She shows that for much of Donald Trump's life, he's suffered the effect of that upbringing. Unable to express empathy, or to go beyond his own ego to really see other people apart from that driving ego, Trump goes on from one empty achievement to other empty achievements leaving a human and financial carnage in his wake. Trump is in the darkest of earthly hells. He cannot love himself, so he cannot love others. He can only use people to finally, in the end, betray them later on.

King Saul was kind of like that, a man that was lauded for his good looks. Saul couldn't effectively be a king because he couldn't love himself. He couldn't trust others. He sought to do his own way rather than the Lord's way, and so he came to his end.

 

[Hidden In Him]

Heard that President Trump said the following: "You know what that is? That's right. That's God testing me. He said, You know, you did it once. And I said, 'Did I do a great job, God? I'm the only one who could do it.' He said that you shouldn't say. Now we're going to have you do it again. I said, 'OK. I agree. You got me.' But I did it once. And now I'm doing it again. And you see the kind of numbers that we're putting up. They're unbelievable. Best job numbers ever. Three months, more jobs in the last three months than ever before."

I can see Trump boasting to God, and there being consequences. But the conclusion Trump reaches about being tested by God reveals he is still an immature Christian. The present pandemic and subsequent economic consequences are not God's doing. Though God could have prevented them, that is not always his prerogative to do so.

I do think it's a bit ego-centric to be assuming Covid-19 was [merely] to test him. It appears to have been said somewhat in jest if you watch the actual speech below (link). But I think he actually is being serious about it being primarily about him. It corresponds to a dream about him being arrogant, and assuming he lived in the White House by divine right...

Not sure what to make of it, because in that dream he ultimately gets chased down the street to a hospital. I wonder if the Lord is trying to warn him, and he only listened to the first part of the conversation. It's curious. His personality is "blessed" with the ability to see whatever reality he wants to see, but that can get one in trouble if the Lord isn't 100% pleased.

Trump Claims COVID-19 Is God Testing Him After He Built ‘Greatest Economy’

 

[Bobby Jo]

... he ultimately gets chased out and down the street to ...

... an assassination, -- where three and a half days later he ASCENDS, along with Pence.

Or so I anticipate ...
Bobby Jo

 

[Hidden In Him]

... an assassination, -- where three and a half days later he ASCENDS, along with Pence.

Or so I anticipate ...
Bobby Jo

No, Bobby Jo, LoL. If it means anything, it suggests he may go a little off the rails; like Saul, who went a bit nuts. (1 Samuel 22:5 - 23:14).

I honestly don't know if it is even trustworthy yet, because I think a lot hinges on prayer.

But no, not a reference to assassination. That would be reading way too much into things.

 

[Bobby Jo]

... That would be reading way too much into ...

... the Tribulation, -- because we'd rather be ignorant than aware.

Bobby Jo