All the fulness of Deity dwells in Him Bodily !

[DNB]

It is self-contradictory to say, <...if all that God has done to date is to have raised Himself from the grave, not a being after our own genus ... man has no hope nor faith>-- from which now it is 100% obvious and logical that when or if He is NOT God, Christ cannot be a mediator between God and man.

Therefore the Mediator between God and man is the God-Man Jesus who died, was buried and rose from the dead again to be Mediator between God and us, men.

What's a god-man, GE? And then, find the word in the Bible, or the word incarnation, or 'God the son', or 'hypostatic union', or 'three-in-one', or 'two natures', ..
You sound pagan, and utterly foolish, GE.

 

[justbyfaith]

The Lord" being referred to is YHWH ...no idea why you would state otherwise.
And now sure why you are stating this to begin with ..




No he doesn't because Paul did not believe any such thing ... and either does any Jew - and the OT is their book. Do you now how many times the word "Lord" is used ? It doesn't mean "Jesus"


No idea what you are talking about - and where you get that Jesus is claiming to be God in that Passage .. Jesus has powers - but he is not "The Father" in that passage.



Jesus is the one as Judge in the NT .. El is the Judge in the OT at first .. and then YHWH supplants him .. Father supplanting Son.

So are you suggesting that Jesus will supplant YHWH ?



Doesn't help at all ... El is YHWH's Father .. his Name is above that of YHWH ..

The Father gave to His Son the name that is above every name (Philippians 2:9-11).

 

[ChristisGod]

Said what?

choose carefully

King James Bible
As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one

Is Jesus righteous ? yes or no

 

[justbyfaith]

What's a god-man, GE? And then, find the word in the Bible, or the word incarnation, or 'God the son', or 'hypostatic union', or 'three-in-one', or 'two natures', ..
You sound pagan, and utterly foolish, GE.

The concepts are in fact found in scripture even if the exact words that we now use to describe them are not.

 

[Truther]

choose carefully

Romans 3:10
King James Bible
As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one

Is Jesus righteous ? yes or no

game, set and match.............


next............................

And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? none is good, save one, that is, God.


Thou sayest.

 

[kcnalp]

What's a god-man, GE? And then, find the word in the Bible, or the word incarnation, or 'God the son', or 'hypostatic union', or 'three-in-one', or 'two natures', ..
You sound pagan, and utterly foolish, GE.

John 1 The Word was God. The Word became flesh and dwelt among us.
Jesus is God.

 

[Truther]

Why are you obsessed with trying to make Jesus evil? You use the one Scripture that doesn't say Jesus was evil. Got any more Scriptures to twist?

And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? none is good, save one, that is, God.

Jesus never said he was evil.

You insinuated it.

 

[Truther]

Sorry, you lost me. Jesus is not God, only the Father is.

Correction.

Jesus was made God 33 years after his conception.

 

[kcnalp]

And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? none is good, save one, that is, God.


Thou sayest.

Got any more Scriptures you want to twist? You seem obsessed with one.

 

[Truther]

choose carefully

King James Bible
As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one

Is Jesus righteous ? yes or no

Yes.

So are you, thanks to the baptism of the Holy Ghost.

 

[Truther]

Got any more Scriptures you want to twist? You seem obsessed with one.

it is now stuck in your head.

 

[kcnalp]

Correction.

Jesus was made God 33 years after his conception.

God CANNOT start or stop being God, unless the Devil says so.

 

[DNB]

The concepts are in fact found in scripture even if the exact words that we now use to describe them are not.

Not good enough for such an outlandish and implausible claim. Don't be reckless with God's Word.

 

[kcnalp]

Yes.

So are you, thanks to the baptism of the Holy Ghost.

You totally contradict yourself! You said Jesus wasn't good. You're comparing Christians with sinless Jesus?

 

[kcnalp]

it is now stuck in your head.

So you only have one Scripture to twist into saying Jesus wasn't good?

 

[DNB]

Correction.

Jesus was made God 33 years after his conception.

Deity is an intrinsic attribute, i.e. immutable, transcendent, omnipresent, incorporeal etc... no one becomes deified.

 

[Heyzeus]

These are malevolent suggestions...

Which one - and why .. is your tongue twisted ... such that you can not speak ... or support your nasty accusation - against my good nature - and a fellow Brother in Christ.. I mean you no harm .. but ... if you open your eyes .. you may see the light :) :)

 

[ChristisGod]

And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? none is good, save one, that is, God.


Thou sayest.

choose carefully

Is Jesus Righteous ? yes or no

King James Bible
As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one

 

[Heyzeus]

Paul quotes Joel 2:32 whoever calls upon the name of YHWH(LORD) will be saved in Romans 10:13 who is Jesus- the One Lord a person must call upon to be saved.

proving you do not know Jesus.

case closed

Holy Carp Batman .. lack of knowledge of one passage in the Bible now qualifies as proving that someone does not know Jesus ?

Sounds very legalistic to me .. Is from Paul you are getting this legalism ? .. and what is this gibberish about this one vague passage from Paul Paul that you desperately want to cling to and relate to the Joel passage when all use of the term Lord .. referred not to Jesus .. because Jesus didn't exist .. so Joel cannot support Pauls claim . because in Joel it is YHWH ...

but when we go to Paul -- 13 for, “Everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved. OK .. the Lord is Jesus .. but Just because you use the epithet Mr ... doesn't mean its the same person ... no serious Biblical Scholar or Theologian would make such a claim... it is .. sorry - not laughable - but lets say "problematic" in serious circles. No .. In Pauls Gospels .. Jesus - the man he never met .. is referred to as Lord .. as is Jesus in th erest of the NT..

So your argument boils down to .... they Call Jesus Sir in the NT .. and YHWH Sir in the OT ... .. with EL above both .. the Most High - but yet another Sir .. and that makes them all the same

OK ... you go with that :) Jesus is Lord ..but not YHWH .. but YHWH is Lord and not Jesus ..

But this gets me thinking ... I am wondering if El was ever referred to as Lord .. The other Sons of El - Lord Baal for example - was referred to as Lord - but can't say for sure that this one one of El's epithets.

Good question to try to answer.

 

[ChristisGod]

Deity is an intrinsic attribute, i.e. immutable, transcendent, omnipresent, incorporeal etc... no one becomes deified.

correct

The Word was God John 1:1
Thomas said to Jesus : my Lord and my God John 20:28
Paul and Peter call Jesus their God and Savior Titus 2:13 and 2 Peter 1:1
John calls Him the True God and Eternal Life in 1 John 5:20
Hebrews call Him our God and Creator YHWH Hebrews 1:8-10

Once God, always God.