All the fulness of Deity dwells in Him Bodily !

[kcnalp]

No, the JW teaches Jesus is Michael, and that God does NOT fully indwell his little angel body, similar to you incarnationists.

I teach that God is inside His only begotten son, governing creation THROUGH the body of His son, yet allowing His son to still remain an individual with a God as per Rev 3:12 etc.

Well they are as close as you are.

 

[Truther]

Did you ever read John?
John 1 The Word was God. The Word became flesh and dwelt among us.
Jesus is God! And you're more JW than Christian.

So God became a sperm cell to mate with Mary's egg?

Or did the spoken word of God make flesh(sperm cell)?

 

[kcnalp]

Yeah .. and what else other than this vague statement ... against the backdrop of the entirety of the Synoptics not even coming close to saying such a thing .. and in fact presenting a contrary picture of Jesus.

After the fact penmanship perhaps ? One has to wonder if some later scribe took liberties ..as was so often done in many places in the Bible.
I say sketchy but .. OK .. we will give you one passage that does look like it might suggest pre-existence..

and what other ? - definitely must be something earlier than 100-120AD ..

I have to ask again, Is there anything in the Bible that you believe is the written Word of God? Anything?

 

[Truther]

Did you ever read John?
John 1 The Word was God. The Word became flesh and dwelt among us.
Jesus is God! And you're more JW than Christian.

So God became a sperm cell to mate with Mary's egg?

Or did the spoken word of God make flesh(sperm cell) to mate with Mary's egg in her ovaries?

 

[kcnalp]

So God became a sperm cell to mate with Mary's egg?

Or did the spoken word of God make flesh(sperm cell)?

John 1 The Word was God. The Word became flesh and dwelt among us.
Jesus is God.

 

[Truther]

Well they are as close as you are.

No, actually, incarnsationists and JW's teach the body of Jesus is dinky right now.

They think Jesus travels around at the speed of light since he is not omnipresent bodily.

 

[Truther]

John 1 The Word was God. The Word became flesh and dwelt among us.
Jesus is God.

I see, you picked #1....

So God became a sperm cell to mate with Mary's egg.

 

[Heyzeus]

It's your word against God of the Bible. You lose.

OK fine .. I lose - but answer the question - was it Satan or God who came and put all the archaeology and history in place that tells of continuous civilization throughout this period.

Like Sargon of Akkad - who united the city states of Sumer into the worlds first empire ~2350 BC - around 2100 there was calamity .. a dark age - out of which these peoples had split into two groups .. Babylonians and Assyrians round 2000 BC

We have names of most of the Pharaoh's in this time period - from ~ 2150 down to 1700 you have a near continuous record - how many years the Pharaoh Ruled .. and so on List of pharaohs - Wikipedia

There should have been no big civilization in Egypt this soon after the flood ? Best guess for honest Abraham is round 1800 .. putting the flood around 2100 .. Nope .. .didn't happen .. civilization all over the world was ticken .. without interruption - way more people around than yo

Remember that after the flood you have to start out in one place .. and spread out all over the world .. Why did the cultures in South America not get wiped out ..

Yes .. and how did Noah squeeze 2 of every land creature into that boat .. simply not possible -- and proven 6 ways to sunday..

Less of course God shrunk all them animals to tiny weeny size ... is this what you also believe ...
Then you have the problem of .. how did all the animals get there ... God would have had to have teleported them as the task of collection is impossible.

Cools stuff .. this story is getting more futureistic and movie like all the time ..

Tell me more of these beliefs about what happened in our early history :)

 

[kcnalp]

I see, you picked #1....

So God became a sperm cell to mate with Mary's egg.

It doesn't even matter. You're heading for Hell for saying Jesus was evil!

 

[kcnalp]

OK fine .. I lose - but answer the question - was it Satan or God who came and put all the archaeology and history in place that tells of continuous civilization throughout this period.

Like Sargon of Akkad - who united the city states of Sumer into the worlds first empire ~2350 BC - around 2100 there was calamity .. a dark age - out of which these peoples had split into two groups .. Babylonians and Assyrians round 2000 BC

We have names of most of the Pharaoh's in this time period - from ~ 2150 down to 1700 you have a near continuous record - how many years the Pharaoh Ruled .. and so on List of pharaohs - Wikipedia

There should have been no big civilization in Egypt this soon after the flood ? Best guess for honest Abraham is round 1800 .. putting the flood around 2100 .. Nope .. .didn't happen .. civilization all over the world was ticken .. without interruption - way more people around than yo

Remember that after the flood you have to start out in one place .. and spread out all over the world .. Why did the cultures in South America not get wiped out ..

Yes .. and how did Noah squeeze 2 of every land creature into that boat .. simply not possible -- and proven 6 ways to sunday..

Less of course God shrunk all them animals to tiny weeny size ... is this what you also believe ...
Then you have the problem of .. how did all the animals get there ... God would have had to have teleported them as the task of collection is impossible.

Cools stuff .. this story is getting more futureistic and movie like all the time ..

Tell me more of these beliefs about what happened in our early history :)

You'd be much better off studying God's written Word, the Bible, than studying opinions of unbelievers. They will lead you to Hell.

 

[Heyzeus]

No, the JW teaches Jesus is Michael, and that God does NOT fully indwell his little angel body, similar to you incarnationists.

I teach that God is inside His only begotten son, governing creation THROUGH the body of His son, yet allowing His son to still remain an individual with a God as per Rev 3:12 etc.

I don't give a rat's left whisker about the JW's and what silliness they believe in - Love to invite them into tea though when any evangalizing religious group comes round .. such fun we have.

Anyway .. how many times to I have to clearly spell out my stance ? Subordinate to The Father .. one in spirit .. and perhaps even sharing the Essense - of the Godhead..

Co - Equal ? No - not my cup of Tea .. A son/divinity with some God like powers .. that is where he sits in my books.

Just like in the Good ol days .. when the mighty men of renoun were roaming around .. offspring of divinities and human females..
as the good book says.

and hey .. one question. serious question - not that others were not .. Do you think God ever wanted a daughter ?

 

[kcnalp]

No, actually, incarnsationists and JW's teach the body of Jesus is dinky right now.

They think Jesus travels around at the speed of light since he is not omnipresent bodily.

So, you're both out in left field.

 

[Truther]

It doesn't even matter. You're heading for Hell for saying Jesus was evil!

Am I headed for hell for posting this?...


And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? none is good, save one, that is, God.

 

[Truther]

I don't give a rat's left whisker about the JW's and what silliness they believe in - Love to invite them into tea though when any evangalizing religious group comes round .. such fun we have.

Anyway .. how many times to I have to clearly spell out my stance ? Subordinate to The Father .. one in spirit .. and perhaps even sharing the Essense - of the Godhead..

Co - Equal ? No - not my cup of Tea .. A son/divinity with some God like powers .. that is where he sits in my books.

Just like in the Good ol days .. when the mighty men of renoun were roaming around .. offspring of divinities and human females..
as the good book says.

and hey .. one question. serious question - not that others were not .. Do you think God ever wanted a daughter ?

God adopts daughters.

 

[kcnalp]

Am I headed for hell for posting this?...


And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? none is good, save one, that is, God.

For totally twisting what Jesus meant! You are obsessed by Satan on saying Jesus wasn't good.

 

[Truther]

So, you're both out in left field.

If you think the body of Jesus is omnipresent, you are on the right track.

If not, you are likened unto the Pope, Protestants, and Jw's etc, that think Jesus is little and fast.

 

[Truther]

For totally twisting what Jesus meant! You are obsessed by Satan on saying Jesus wasn't good.

And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? none is good, save one, that is, God.

You mean HIGHLIGHTING what he said?

Does this verse kinda bug you?

 

[Heyzeus]

God adopts daughters.

As do some of the Son's of God - :)

But those are human.. God has a divine Son correct ? Could we not assign the Holy Spirit some aspect of the Feminine ? .. nudge nudge .. wink wink .. say no more ??

 

[Truther]

As do some of the Son's of God - :)

But those are human.. God has a divine Son correct ? Could we not assign the Holy Spirit some aspect of the Feminine ? .. nudge nudge .. wink wink .. say no more ??

No, God does not have a divine son, but fully indwells his human son, making the son God by default.

If God removed Himself from the son, the son would be a normal resurrected spirit.

But, He will never do that.

 

[kcnalp]

And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? none is good, save one, that is, God.

You mean HIGHLIGHTING what he said?

Does this verse kinda bug you?

What "bugs" me is when Satan uses you to say Jesus wasn't good.