The WHO now says to stop using lockdowns

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Do you know why? Testing positive for COVID means absolutely nothing. 80% of those who test positive are simply carrying immunity to the virus (just like any flu). Therefore the whole *testing* idea was meant to increase panic, and those reports do not truly represent the situation.

The true numbers would be (1) those actully who visited a doctor for coronavirus infection, (2) those who were actually hospitalized for the same , and (3) those who died SPECIFICALLY due to COVID.

Furthermore, had HCQ been freely available, many would not even need to go to the doctor. So if the above numbers were honestly presented, the whole scenario would be quite different.

From the beginning of this "pandemic" there has been a lot of lying going on! And there is a reason for this....
 

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I am due to go away a week Saturday, right when they want to start the lockdown ( not going far, just to the Isle of Wight. At the moment we are in tier three of Boris tier system, which is not a risk group as such. The North is experiencing a higher risk group.
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I pray that you will have a safe trip. :)
 

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Do u prefer multiple choice? Ye i reckon too... Ok...

In early March Daniel Andrews was the only state premier to take the "state of emergency" powers. Was he...
a/ Justified
b/ Should of remained with the democratic Westminster system like the rest of Australia

He was justified to take actions to keep Victorians safe, otherwise Victoria might have ended up like New York, which I don't want and neither do many other Victorians want to be in that terrible situation. And it is a democracy as I showed somewhere else, a poll showed a majority support Daniel Andrews actions.
 

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We're meant to be in this together mate.

Yet, interesting we are not. The idea is that "were all in this together" is a lie equivalent to the lie in the garden from the serpent to Eve, it is a new lie of great detest. The great new lie tries to make us into sheep and do as the overseers say, it is Satan behind all this trying one last gasp before he is struck down forever and with him will be those man who backed Satan and they will be remembered no more.
 

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He was justified to take actions to keep Victorians safe, otherwise Victoria might have ended up like New York, which I don't want and neither do many other Victorians want to be in that terrible situation. And it is a democracy as I showed somewhere else, a poll showed a majority support Daniel Andrews actions.

Your province would only end up like new york if your Dan forced people with the disease into nursing homes. Como murdered all the people in New York and the WHO are now saying the lock downs are worse then the virus
 
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It is a fool's errand to think you can totally eliminate the virus. From the beginning the plan here was to shrink the curve for the sole purpose of not overwhelming hospitals. You think that you can hide until it goes away? One person or animal could re-introduce it and you would be back at square one.

I say animal because apparently it has spread to a mink farm. Cats and dogs can also catch it.
 

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It is a fool's errand to think you can totally eliminate the virus. From the beginning the plan here was to shrink the curve for the sole purpose of not overwhelming hospitals. You think that you can hide until it goes away? One person or animal could re-introduce it and you would be back at square one.

I say animal because apparently it has spread to a mink farm. Cats and dogs can also catch it.

Well this has been quite successful in New Zealand and Fiji
 

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He was justified to take actions to keep Victorians safe, otherwise Victoria might have ended up like New York, which I don't want and neither do many other Victorians want to be in that terrible situation. And it is a democracy as I showed somewhere else, a poll showed a majority support Daniel Andrews actions.

Ahahaha... :D... Its good to ask specific kind of questions... Thats how you learn about a person...

First of all your not in Melbourne so u have no idea... U only have the mainstream narrative... I have frontline facts...

But again, i reckon you are committed to the Labour party... And my series of leading questions confirms this...

The first question was easy the answer was a... The government is responsible for the 2nd wave. A fact found by the inquiry and covered by all media outlets and supported by my news headlines... And you blamed us in Melbourne just like Dan... You side with government over community...

I asked you to comment on the appalling use of the police to raise revenue for the government... A revealing no response

And the final question was so simple... Democracy or Communism... You chose communism and didn't gare address the fact that tyhe rest of Australia did fine under democracy and our state is in shambles under Andrews carte blanche

You are tied to the Daniel Andrews government and are unable to criticize them... And i think i know why... And i can't help but draw the comparison to my sis who served for the young ALP at university...

Shes exactly the same...:rolleyes: Committed to the party all the way no matter what... Cannot and will not ever criticize. And used to staunchly defend the Labour party back when i wasn't very educated in politics... Now shed "rather not talk about it" when i asked her weather it was wise to remove our democratic parliament. Hehehe...

Its good to know where people are coming from but, better understand each other. Try to at least...

But again... U have no idea man... Andrew Bolt has my back... His here with us... His in it... Melbournian on the frontline witnessing and experiencing everything 24/7, not just the narrative you guys are swallowing on the 6pm news for a few minutes...

Andrew Bolt spotting the facts with experts from ground zero not the bush

Peta Credilin... A very intelligent Melbournian... Degree in law. Served under the Tony Abbot leadership ... Dropping the facts with other Melbournians here, where i am... Not in the bush or other side of the nation... They are here... And they know

A 77 percent rise in call to beyond blue... An excellent organization that is there to try and help people with mental health problems...

And all my stuff is always backed... u have never got anything backed...
Its just the mainstream narrative your parroting mainly from a committed left wing position...
 
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530 suicides in Victoria due to lockdowns... Watch it

Harrowing suicide figures reveal toll on Victorians | Sky News Australia

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Ahahaha... :D... Its good to ask specific kind of questions... Thats how you learn about a person...

First of all your not in Melbourne so u have no idea... U only have the mainstream narrative... I have frontline facts...

But again, i reckon you are committed to the Labour party... And my series of leading questions confirms this...

The first question was easy the answer was a... The government is responsible for the 2nd wave. A fact found by the inquiry and covered by all media outlets and supported by my news headlines... And you blamed us in Melbourne just like Dan... You side with government over community...

I asked you to comment on the appalling use of the police to raise revenue for the government... A revealing no response

And the final question was so simple... Democracy or Communism... You chose communism and didn't gare address the fact that tyhe rest of Australia did fine under democracy and our state is in shambles under Andrews carte blanche

You are tied to the Daniel Andrews government and are unable to criticize them... And i think i know why... And i can't help but draw the comparison to my sis who served for the young ALP at university...

Shes exactly the same...:rolleyes: Committed to the party all the way no matter what... Cannot and will not ever criticize. And used to staunchly defend the Labour party back when i wasn't very educated in politics... Now shed "rather not talk about it" when i asked her weather it was wise to remove our democratic parliament. Hehehe...

Its good to know where people are coming from but, better understand each other. Try to at least...

But again... U have no idea man... Andrew Bolt has my back... His here with us... His in it... Melbournian on the frontline witnessing and experiencing everything 24/7, not just the narrative you guys are swallowing on the 6pm news for a few minutes...

Andrew Bolt spotting the facts with experts from ground zero not the bush

Peta Credilin... A very intelligent Melbournian... Degree in law. Served under the Tony Abbot leadership ... Dropping the facts with other Melbournians here, where i am... Not in the bush or other side of the nation... They are here... And they know

A 77 percent rise in call to beyond blue... An excellent organization that is there to try and help people with mental health problems...

And all my stuff is always backed... u have never got anything backed...
Its just the mainstream narrative your parroting mainly from a committed left wing position...

Here is the link that i shared in post #536 in the Aussie and Kiwi politics thread.

It shows a majority supporting Daniel Andrew's actions.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/7news....s-support-andrews-on-virus-poll-c-1333122.amp
 

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mainly from a committed left wing position...

I am not a left winger. And I probably would consider 7 news centre-left. Some that you are calling mainstream media, are also out to get the Labor government at the moment.

It's wrong and bad timing though, and they should all be focussed on working together to fight the pandemic instead of attacking each other.
 
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I pray that you will have a safe trip. :)
Thank you , it’s still in doubt that we will be able to go. Boris is sticking to his guns at the moment. Interestingly , over here, It’s the pubs, leisure and cafes ect that they want to close. Churches and shops are allowed to stay open - they have been open since they lifted the first lockdown.
Rita
 
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Do you know why? Testing positive for COVID means absolutely nothing. 80% of those who test positive are simply carrying immunity to the virus (just like any flu). Therefore the whole *testing* idea was meant to increase panic, and those reports do not truly represent the situation.

The true numbers would be (1) those who actually visited a doctor for coronavirus infection, (2) those who were actually hospitalized for the same , and (3) those who died SPECIFICALLY due to COVID.

Furthermore, had HCQ been freely available, many would not even need to go to the doctor. So if the above numbers were honestly presented, the whole scenario would be quite different.
Am I right in presuming that those with immunity would be asymptomatic , but could still pass it on to others.
So even though many may not be a risk to themselves, could be a risk still. It would be interesting to know if that’s what you mean as I have never had flu. They are advising flu jabs because of work, I have never actually considered that I may have had flu, been asymptomatic and could be passing it on. Rita
 
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I believe that Trump will serve another term, and you will see freedom-loving Americans stepping up to the plate to stop the violence being encouraged by the Democrat leaders. I just hope and pray that things won't erupt into another civil war!
Can I ask something, why will it take the election to bring that about. The violence has been going on for months, so why haven’t people stepped up to the plate already. I could understand it If Trump was in the running but not in power, but he is in power already.
This is a serious question, not a dig at Trump xx
 

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Can I ask something, why will it take the election to bring that about. The violence has been going on for months, so why haven’t people stepped up to the plate already. I could understand it If Trump was in the running but not in power, but he is in power already.
This is a serious question, not a dig at Trump xx

Hi, Rita, I'm not sure I understand your question, but I didn't mean to imply that this would take an election to bring it about. People haven't stepped up to the plate because they are letting law enforcement handle the violence, which they should.
 
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Hi, Rita, I'm not sure I understand your question, but I didn't mean to imply that this would take an election to bring it about. People haven't stepped up to the plate because they are letting law enforcement handle the violence, which they should.
Hi Prayer warrior,
I read the comment about the election, and then about the people stepping up as being linked. So I thought you meant that the election would make people step up, hence my question. Thanks for explaining that you didn’t mean that xx
Rita
 
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The WHO has been giving us conflicting information from the very start of this whole nonsense...
And now, after destroying the lives of hundreds of millions of people around the world, the WHO tells us to stop using lockdowns...
Unbelievable... Truly unbelievable...

Has the WHO backflipped on its own lockdown advice?


And so while the people who have sacrificed nothing continue to cheer on the lockdowns it's the middle and lower class that have suffered... Its the working class that has taken the brunt of these unprecedented lockdowns that have been manufactured by the evil one...

So what now... Does the media finally concede that this was all wrong? Do the governments now admit that they got it all wrong? Or do they continue with this false narrative of a deadly pandemic? Im afraid that the latter will apply...

That's because the leaders locking everyone down are dictators at heart in my opinion. Lock downs for a short period can only slow the spread of the virus, but it would never stop it from infiltrating the masses, which inevitably will occur. The really sad thing is that the government leaders are so selfish at the top that they haven't agreed on a second stimulus package for the USA. They're hurting the low and middle income people in a very callus way.
 
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The WHO has been giving us conflicting information from the very start of this whole nonsense...
And now, after destroying the lives of hundreds of millions of people around the world, the WHO tells us to stop using lockdowns...
Unbelievable... Truly unbelievable...

Has the WHO backflipped on its own lockdown advice?


And so while the people who have sacrificed nothing continue to cheer on the lockdowns it's the middle and lower class that have suffered... Its the working class that has taken the brunt of these unprecedented lockdowns that have been manufactured by the evil one...

So what now... Does the media finally concede that this was all wrong? Do the governments now admit that they got it all wrong? Or do they continue with this false narrative of a deadly pandemic? Im afraid that the latter will apply...

The information has been convoluted from the get-go.

The People at Large- get Signal of FEAR and PANIC- 24-7.

The Reaction of the People at Large-
Government Daddy- Give US A FIX!

WHO to Governments to the People at Large-
There IS NO FIX!

The People at Large- we don't care if there IS a FIX...GIVE US Something...ANYTHING...that we Can Believe...MIGHT be a FIX.

WHO --- okie dokie, to Governments --- okie dokie --- to People at Large.

People at Large- Hey, that didn't FIX ANYTHING---

Reality----No Kidding! But didn't YOU Feel better...Less Fear...walking around in your useless designer masks?...staying home from work for awhile?

Yeah, Reality is a B****.
Millions of Viruses, diseases, plague the World. People age and die. People die in Wars and accidents.
Dying is a Part of Natural life to conclude Natural Life. It is inevitable. YET, The thought of Death ...stirs Fear and panic instantly ...among the People at Large.
(And Fear and Panic introduces Opportunity... For "SOMETHING"...to step in to Perpetuate Control over People)
Money, masks, distancing, antibodies, government's, not working does not FIX a Virus.

And that VACCINE people ARE begging For...
The Public at Large- has no idea- what is being Planned FOR them. They Will BE Duped...just as the WERE Duped with the Masks, distancing, NOT working, Government salvation, WHO salvation, Vaccine salvation...etc.

The Truth will set you Free. :)
 
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