Why is this forum full of so many hateful "Christians"?

[Jim B]

What do you call someone who kills innocent humans?

Herod? Others whom God has allowed to kill entire populations?

Performing an abortion is NOT killing an innocent human!! It is a medical procedure performed to save the life of the Mother and to prevent needless, cruel suffering of a fetus that has NO CHANCE of surviving on its own outside of the womb.

I had life-saving heart surgery four years ago. Ask my wife, children, and grandchildren if the surgery shouldn't have been performed because it was God's will that I should die.

Medicine is practiced to save lives. Surgeons are NOT murderers.

 

[bbyrd009]

As long as we live on this earth there will always be earthly laws.
You are born into the world of laws.

Now I know what your getting at.. it's that, under the law of life and death right?
That law is kinda seperate from the world laws.
It's the dividing of the bone and marrow.
I mean it's so closely related and yet different.

So while we are here and have to abide by fleshly rules, thats the bone.
But because we live by the spirit (that is, the law of God) in the flesh, that's the marrow.

So yes, while we are subjected under the laws of the land,
We are no longer under the law of death.
Those who have been born again.. voted for Life.
Life won the election.
Those who haven't been born again... well the other guy won for their party.

any idea what "satan's dialectic" is, ziggy? or "hidden manna" for that matter i guess

but i guess you raise a good question; what is the diff in obeying the law and being "under the law?"
bc i certainly dont advocate disobeying the law ok

 

[Grailhunter]

I think some people need to be moderated more strictly because they refuse to bridle their tongue. They say whatever they want, without any regard to the consequences of their words. They skulk hide behind their computer screen and viciously disparage other people with impunity.

Why in the world would any liberal person listen to a Christian who calls them a child of Satan or a demonrat? How could using vicious derogatory terms to slander a person who supports abortion possibly show them God's love and convince them their stand on abortion is morally wrong?

Yes that is what the Democrats are all about....silence those that speak the living word of God. Burn the Bibles because they convict you of the evils. Skulk....snake in the grass....the word of God is sharper than any double edged sword and it is that, that convicts you. You are the one that will not admit what you believe. We can read what we believe right out of the Bible. Where do you get your beliefs from?

 

[Grailhunter]

Herod? Others whom God has allowed to kill entire populations?

Performing an abortion is NOT killing an innocent human!! It is a medical procedure performed to save the life of the Mother and to prevent needless, cruel suffering of a fetus that has NO CHANCE of surviving on its own outside of the womb.

I had life-saving heart surgery four years ago. Ask my wife, children, and grandchildren if the surgery shouldn't have been performed because it was God's will that I should die.

Medicine is practiced to save lives. Surgeons are NOT murderers.

Any excuse to murder the innocent, serves Satan. And what does heart surgery have to do with killing millions of babies? Your train of thought and morals are like a Christmas train running on the carpet. You never know which way it is going to go. What has an innocent baby done to deserve death? What has millions of babies done to deserve death. What greater sin is there that a mother would give her own baby up to Satan?

 

[Heart2Soul]

So you're saying that a Christian surgeon who performs an abortion on a fetus that has no chance of surviving outside the womb is a murderer? And if the mother dies because an abortion wasn't performed, thereby saving her life, who is "the murderer" then?

That is not what he is saying....the percentage of abortions related to health issues is like 11 percent of all abortions.
Here is the actual numbers.
Unintended pregnancies result in about 42 million induced abortions per year worldwide. In the United States, approximately 42% off all unintended pregnancies ended in abortion. Over 92% of abortions are the result of unintended pregnancy.
Most are unwanted pregnancies.
Sexual activity without the use of effective contraception through choice or coercion is the predominant cause of unintended pregnancy. Worldwide, the unintended pregnancy rate is approximately 45% of all pregnancies, but rates of unintended pregnancy vary in different geographic areas and among different sociodemographic groups.[2] Unintended pregnancies may be unwanted pregnancies or mistimed pregnancies.[3] While unintended pregnancies are the main reason for induced abortions,[3] unintended pregnancies may also result in live births or miscarriages.

 

[Ziggy]

any idea what "satan's dialectic" is, ziggy? or "hidden manna" for that matter i guess

but i guess you raise a good question; what is the diff in obeying the law and being "under the law?"
bc i certainly dont advocate disobeying the law ok

Satan's dialectic will always try to convince you or steer you away from God.
Where the Hidden Manna leads one to God.
That's would be my understandin in a nut shell

 

[Ziggy]

any idea what "satan's dialectic" is, ziggy? or "hidden manna" for that matter i guess

but i guess you raise a good question; what is the diff in obeying the law and being "under the law?"
bc i certainly dont advocate disobeying the law ok

Well,
If your under the law it controls you.
If you obey the law you rule it.
You can choose to obey or not obey.
But you can't put yourself above the law... unless your an anarchist
only God can by gifting you Life, or that which is above the law of death.
thinking

 

[bbyrd009]

Well,
If your under the law it controls you.
If you obey the law you rule it.
You can choose to obey or not obey.
But you can't put yourself above the law... unless your an anarchist
only God can by gifting you Life, or that which is above the law of death.
thinking

well as to anarchist, i suggest that has been made into a dirty word; anarchy is "no rulers," not "no rules"

"if you obey the law you rule it"
not sure what that means?
seems to me that if you obey every law w/o question, maybe not?

 

[Ziggy]

well as to anarchist, i suggest that has been made into a dirty word; anarchy is "no rulers," not "no rules"

"if you obey the law you rule it"
not sure what that means?
seems to me that if you obey every law w/o question, maybe not?

No rulers, no rules, ... No God = Anarchy

This started with being under the law.. you don't have a choice, your going to die... done, over and out.

When it comes to obeying the law, you can choose to keep it or break it.
That means you have the ability, the authority, the decision, to obey or not to obey.
You have rule over your own actions and let the consequences fall where they may.
But it is still your choice.
The ability to choose is the power to rule over that choice.

Under the OT law we had NO choice.
Under the NT law, By the Grace of God we Have choice.

I'm trying to figure out which law we are focusing on here?
Because they get blurred sometimes.
We have God's law and we have man's law.
One is Spiritual and one is Carnal.
Which one are we discussing?

HUGS

 

[Jim B]

Yes that is what the Democrats are all about....silence those that speak the living word of God. Burn the Bibles because they convict you of the evils. Skulk....snake in the grass....the word of God is sharper than any double edged sword and it is that, that convicts you. You are the one that will not admit what you believe. We can read what we believe right out of the Bible. Where do you get your beliefs from?

So when Seven of Nine wrote, "... some people need to be moderated more strictly because they refuse to bridle their tongue. They say whatever they want, without any regard to the consequences of their words. They skulk hide behind their computer screen and viciously disparage other people with impunity." I guess the above is what is meant.

Democrats DO NOT "silence those that speak the living word of God. Burn the Bibles because they convict you of the evils", etc. You are full of unreasoned hatred, contrary to God's and Jesus' commanding us to love our neighbors -- Democrats included -- as ourselves.

If you claim to read the Bible... James 1:22, "But be sure you live out the message and do not merely listen to it and so deceive yourselves."

 

[Jim B]

Any excuse to murder the innocent, serves Satan. And what does heart surgery have to do with killing millions of babies? Your train of thought and morals are like a Christmas train running on the carpet. You never know which way it is going to go. What has an innocent baby done to deserve death? What has millions of babies done to deserve death. What greater sin is there that a mother would give her own baby up to Satan?

Letting a mother die needlessly, when her life could have been saved by a medical procedure, serves Satan.

My heart surgery was necessary to save my life; an abortion often saves a mother's life. I could have died without the surgery; the same could be said about a pregnant woman whose fetus could not survive outside of the womb.

If you think that an abortion is giving up a baby to Satan you have no idea what you're talking about. What do you say about letting a mother die because a routine operation wasn't done? That is doing exactly what Satan wants!

 

[bbyrd009]

No God = Anarchy

prolly not true, even though you state it in satan's dialectic, sorry
Amish are Anarchist; Mennonites too, etc

Which one are we discussing?

ah wadr i avoid discussions of sin, and law, mostly for that reason i guess; the apparent confusion

 

[BarneyFife]

prolly not true, even though you state it in satan's dialectic, sorry
Amish are Anarchist; Mennonites too, etc

I can't help but like your posts--even when I disagree. Living in South-Central PA as I do, I rub elbows and do business with a lot of plain folk and I don't get an anarchy signal at all. Perhaps I'm not very perceptive or just naive or something.

 

[bbyrd009]

I can't help but like your posts--even when I disagree. Living in South-Central PA as I do, I rub elbows and do business with a lot of plain folk and I don't get an anarchy signal at all. Perhaps I'm not very perceptive or just naive or something.

well, anarchy is intentionally conflated with chaos by the state, who naturally wants us to worship our leaders, hence to Jesus worship even imo...but the hypocrisy is revealed various ways i guess, not enforcing the laws that are (in good conscience) made; exceeeding the speed limit even, stuff like that? So imo and others at least anarchy has nothing to do with chaos; it is just repped as such in order to fwd the state apparatus, and keep us all codependent. But where is a cop when you need one?
Anarchists are the ppl keeping to the speed limit lol
perhaps anyway
most citizens are doing like 9mph over eh

 

[BarneyFife]

well, anarchy is intentionally conflated with chaos by the state, who naturally wants us to worship our leaders, hence to Jesus worship even imo...but the hypocrisy is revealed various ways i guess, not enforcing the laws that are (in good conscience) made; exceeeding the speed limit even, stuff like that? So imo and others at least anarchy has nothing to do with chaos; it is just repped as such in order to fwd the state apparatus, and keep us all codependent. But where is a cop when you need one?
Anarchists are the ppl keeping to the speed limit lol

You kill me.

 

[bbyrd009]

Medicine is practiced to save lives.

...on those who have insurance, yes

 

[BarneyFife]

well, anarchy is intentionally conflated with chaos by the state, who naturally wants us to worship our leaders, hence to Jesus worship even imo...but the hypocrisy is revealed various ways i guess, not enforcing the laws that are (in good conscience) made; exceeeding the speed limit even, stuff like that? So imo and others at least anarchy has nothing to do with chaos; it is just repped as such in order to fwd the state apparatus, and keep us all codependent. But where is a cop when you need one?
Anarchists are the ppl keeping to the speed limit lol
perhaps anyway
most citizens are doing like 9mph over eh

In my county its more like 15 mph over and it is so annoying. Everyone thinks they're at Talladega.

 

[bbyrd009]

You kill me.

hey, im not the one putting fluoride in the water!
lol

 

[bbyrd009]

In my county its more like 15 mph over and it is so annoying. Everyone thinks they're at Talladega.

ya, here too; "Christian lawkeepers" all, according to themselves anyway
and the cops are the worst at it tbh

 

[BarneyFife]

hey, im not the one putting fluoride in the water!
lol

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