How Powerful is the Blood of Jesus?

[CharismaticLady]

Here's some examples: You are going down the freeway and some cuts you off and the drive behind you nearly hit the back of your car. Do you think to yourself, "Praise God! thank you Jesus for averting an accident"or do you think you yourself, that car nearly took me out, where did he get his licence from, a Cheerio box!. You go to the grocery store and someone cuts in line ahead of you, do you say. "I am so glad I was able to help this person because they are obviously in a hurry. Perhaps they have had a bad day today/". Or do you think, what a rude person!

Then you get home and an animal has gotten into your trash bin and there is trash all down your drive and on the foot path. Do you think. "Praise God this animal must have been hungry and I hope it gest some food somewhere or maybe I should put some food out next time" or do you think to yourself, "I cannot believe that the neighbours don't take better care of their dog". At the end of the day you may be praising God for his mercies or you may be angry. The bible tells us that James 1:20

This is how easy it is to be clashing between flesh and Spirit and it costs to walk in the Spirit all the time...

For years I have pictured other drivers as angels, preventing me from an accident somewhere up ahead.

 

[CharismaticLady]

Yes....I don’t know what I did....I am clumsy with computer stuff....sorry about the mistake ...there will be more in the future.....you can count on it....lol..

BB, don't worry about it. Anyone who knows how to use a computer would be silly not to use the perks such as copy and paste.

 

[Angelina]

@Angelina, if you want to read my testimony I just posted it in the Testimonial forum.

Sure honey. I would be happy to read your testimony

 

[CharismaticLady]

Here's some examples: You are going down the freeway and some cuts you off and the driver behind you nearly hits the back of your car. Do you think to yourself, "Praise God! thank you Jesus for averting an accident"or do you think you to yourself, that car nearly took me out, where did he get his licence from, a Cheerio box!. You go to the grocery store and someone cuts in line ahead of you, do you say. "I am so glad I was able to help this person because they are obviously in a hurry. Perhaps they have had a bad day today/". Or do you think, what a rude person!

Then you get home and an animal has gotten into your trash bin and there is trash all down your drive and on the foot path. Do you think. "Praise God this animal must have been hungry and I hope it get some food somewhere or maybe I should put some food out next time" or do you think to yourself, "I cannot believe that the neighbours don't take better care of their dog". At the end of the day you may be praising God for his mercies or you may be angry. The bible tells us that James 1:20. The anger of man do not achieve the righteousness of God.

This is how easy it is to be clashing between flesh and Spirit and it costs to walk in the Spirit all the time...

I just don't sweat it. I feed wild animals all the time, so have attracted them to my house. I know better than to leave trash out. Did it once, and said, well, I won't do that again. I was chastising myself, not the hungry little critter.

 

[BloodBought 1953]

BTW, Jesus is NOT our Advocate for willful sins of lawlessness.

This is just more evidence of her misunderstanding of Hebrews 10 and “ willfull Sin”. In her confused mind , she fears that if she Willfully Sins she is bound for Hell , therefore she lets the entire Bible pivot on One Misunderstood verse—— she MUST convince herself by way of Delusion , that she doesn’t Willfully Sin anymore or she would be too scared to get any sleep at night.....there is absolutely NO ALLOWANCE in her “Fool’s Paradise” of a dozen different “ types” of Sin where, of course, she does NOT commit any that would Damn her. She lacks the Insight to see that almost EVERY Sin is Willful and in her Foolish Doctrine, she denies the Grace and the Blood That God provided that would actually save her......she preaches a Perverted , False “ Gospel” Of “Jesus Saves, BUT once you know “ that” you can’t perform any Willfull Sins......according to Galatians 1:8.....If an Angel or even if Paul Himself came preaching a “gospel” contrary to what you See In 1cor15:1-4 ....let Him be “ Accursed” or damned forever.....you tread on VERY dangerous ground, Charismatic Lady....May God have Mercy on you ....

 

[justbyfaith]

Poor God and Poor Us....he went to all of the trouble of Chastising His Children which must have amounted to a big waste of time and a Complete , Cruel Injustice, seeing how none of His Children sin.....

It would be a waste of time for God to chastise His children and not have it produce the peaceable fruit of righteousness (Hebrews 12:5-11).

BTW, Jesus is NOT our Advocate for willful sins of lawlessness. I haven't had desires to commit any of them since 1977. Maybe my testimony is more extreme than other people, because I've only met a few people like me that can relate to my born again experience, because theirs was similar. One even more extreme.

I have a similar testimony; only I fell backward after having victory for a year and then for the next 30 or so years I backslid while still going to church every Sunday.

I am only just now returning to a walk of obedience as the result of the fear of the LORD; because of such passages as Hebrews 10:26-31 and Ezekiel 33:11-20.

I only believe that I can be restored because when Moses blundered in Numbers 20 and was forbidden to enter the promised land, it may have seemed to be condemnation...yet we find him in the promised land in the time of Jesus at the Mount of transfiguration.

 

[BloodBought 1953]

May God open your eyes to these Truths, Lady....

 

[justbyfaith]

This is just more evidence of her misunderstanding of Hebrews 10 and “ willfull Sin”. In her confused mind , she fears that if she Willfully Sins she is bound for Hell , therefore she lets the entire Bible pivot on One Misunderstood verse—— she MUST convince herself by way of Delusion , that she doesn’t Willfully Sin anymore or she would be too scared to get any sleep at night.....there is absolutely NO ALLOWANCE in her “Fool’s Paradise” of a dozen different “ types” of Sin where, of course, she does NOT commit any that would Damn her. She lacks the Insight to see that almost EVERY Sin is Willful and in her Foolish Doctrine, she denies the Grace and the Blood That God provided that would actually save her......she preaches a Perverted , False “ Gospel” Of “Jesus Saves, BUT once you know “ that” you can’t perform any Willfull Sins......according to Galatians 1:8.....If an Angel or even if Paul Himself came preaching a “gospel” contrary to what you See In 1cor15:1-4 ....let Him be “ Accursed” or damned forever.....you tread on VERY dangerous ground, Charismatic Lady....May God have Mercy on you ....

She is not misunderstanding Hebrews 10:26-31.

Perhaps you can give us an exposition of the passage that gives the proper meaning of what is written. Until then, don't presume that you know better than other people what any passage means. No prophecy of scripture is of any private interpretation. So, if you have an interpretation of that passage contrary to that of @CharismaticLady's, make it public.

 

[VictoryinJesus]

1 John 1:9 If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.

1 John 3:5 And you know that He was manifested to take away our sins, and in Him there is no sin.

What does it mean to be cleansed from all unrighteousness? Does that include the desire to sin? Why instead of acknowledging "cleanse" do some believe the blood of Jesus only FORGIVES all unrighteousness, but we will still sin all of our lives, and Jesus cleanses our present and future sins as well as our past sins, but does nothing for the desire to sin. If we believe that Jesus' blood cleanses and forgives our past, present and future sins instead of making us truly born again with a new nature, and free from the desire to sin in the first place presently and in the future, isn't that is a slap in the face of how powerful we believe the blood of Jesus truly is?

Jesus came to make us truly righteous and holy as the Father is perfect. He came to make us like Himself - the first of many brethren. Romans 8:29 "For whom He foreknew, He also predestined to be conformed to the image of His Son, that He might be the firstborn among many brethren."

How powerful is the blood of Jesus? Not to derail your thread but the topic is blood. Been considering how powerful is the Lords Supper and breaking of bread. Maybe still on topic.

Ezekiel 34:15-16 I will feed my flock, and I will cause them to lie down, saith the Lord God. [16] I will seek that which was lost, and bring again that which was driven away, and will bind up that which was broken, and will strengthen that which was sick: but I will destroy the fat and the strong; I will feed them with judgment.

‘I will feed them with judgement.’ I will seek that which was lost, and bring again that which was driven away, and will bind up that which was broken, and will strengthen that which was sick: but I will destroy the fat and the strong;...1 Corinthians 11:24-29 And when he had given thanks, he brake it, and said, Take, eat: this is my body, which is broken for you: this do in remembrance of me. [25] After the same manner also he took the cup, when he had supped, saying, This cup is the new testament in my blood: this do ye, as oft as ye drink it, in remembrance of me. [26] For as often as ye eat this bread, and drink this cup, ye do shew the Lord's death till he come. [27] Wherefore whosoever shall eat this bread, and drink this cup of the Lord, unworthily, shall be guilty of the body and blood of the Lord. [28] But let a man examine himself, and so let him eat of that bread, and drink of that cup. [29] For he that eateth and drinketh unworthily, eateth and drinketh damnation to himself, not discerning the Lord's body.

Ezekiel 34:20-23 Therefore thus saith the Lord God unto them; Behold, I, even I, will judge between the fat cattle and between the lean cattle. [21] Because ye have thrust with side and with shoulder, and pushed all the diseased with your horns, till ye have scattered them abroad; [22] Therefore will I save my flock, and they shall no more be a prey; and I will judge between cattle and cattle. [23] And I will set up one shepherd over them, and he shall feed them, even my servant David (shall he feed); he shall feed them, and he shall be their shepherd.


consider the power of the Lord’s Supper and ‘I will feed them with judgement’ ‘I will seek that which was lost, and bring again that which was driven away, and will bind up that which was broken, and will strengthen that which was sick’... he that eateth and drinketh unworthily, eateth and drinketh damnation to himself, not discerning the Lord's body.

 

[Michiah-Imla]

What a shame when people merely repeat simple Bible doctrine then get railed on and ridiculed in such a fierce way. But the world hates Jesus and his followers. Others could very well believe that it is you that are in false doctrine, but instead show the fruits of the Spirit by being gentle to you.

If Peter was able to walk on water and Christ was able to feed thousands with little food, why is it so strange to believe that one stops sinning?

Why do churches kick out some members if it is inevitable that everyone sins from time to time? Many churches do not teach members to stop sinning, yet kick out offenders. Such hypocrisy...

 

[justbyfaith]

May God open your eyes to these Truths, Lady....

That was actually pretty good...I was surprised, to be frank with you.

I came to the very conclusion that he made only about a week or two ago.

 

[Angelina]

I understand that, and God is on my mind all day and all night. Just this past week I had the best dream that some would call a nightmare. There was this huge black demon with horns in an abandoned house and instead of running away from him in fear, I ran toward him and commanded him to be gone by the authority of Jesus Christ, and he look surprised and disappeared. Then there was a see through woman ghost and I grabbed her by the arm and threw her out of the house in the name of Jesus. I was like a warrior on the hunt, and cleansed the whole house. When I woke up, I still had this feeling of extreme joy, because greater is He in me (all the time) than he that is in the world. I've known I have this authority and I live in it without fear.

BTW, Jesus is NOT our Advocate for willful sins of lawlessness. I haven't had desires to commit any of them since 1977. Maybe my testimony is more extreme than other people, because I've only met a few people like me that can relate to my born again experience, because theirs was similar. One even more extreme.

Wilful sins of lawlessness? Jesus is our advocate for sin period!. Particularly when we are struggling with sin as you once were. Salvation is free but it costs to follow Jesus. Sanctification is a process where new and long time believers are helped by the Holy Spirit to become more like God and less like the world. This is a personal walk so no-one can say, you should be this or that by now because it happened this way for me.

Sometimes we are set free instantly at repentance. Other times it takes a walk with God through a process of dealing with various issues picked up from the world. Understand, that our personal relationship with Jesus is not the same as other believers. We can be instantly set free from sinful vice for example and sometimes it takes a period of time in his presence.

 

[BloodBought 1953]

She is not misunderstanding Hebrews 10:26-31.

Perhaps you can give us an exposition of the passage that gives the proper meaning of what is written. Until then, don't presume that you know better than other people what any passage means. No prophecy of scripture is of any private interpretation. So, if you have an interpretation of that passage contrary to that of @CharismaticLady's, make it public.

Text without Context is Error....
Just read the 9 Chapters of Hebrews that come before Hebrews 10 and see whom hexis talking to and what he is talking about....you act like it doesn’t make any difference, yet it does.....in fact, it’s Everything.....learn how to” Rightly Divide”God’s Word” ......the Bible is a very dangerous Book when you take verses out if context.....You and Lady are too Stiff- Necked in your silliness and confusion to even “ CONSIDER” a differing Interpretation That could “ Rock the boat” of the things you were taught by Ignorant Jack- Legged Preachers....SELF called.....not GOD-Called. You would Be Wise to just ignore my posts—- I am posting to smart Newbies , hoping to rescue them before the Modern- Day Judaizers get to them and destroy them with their “ Leaven” —- the Damnable, False Gospels Of Performance and Sinless Perfection....It’s all Hog Wash.....

 

[Angelina]

@CharismaticLady you need to have grace towards those who struggle with sin, particular those who have been a Christian for a long time like yourself but just as you have been forgiven and cleansed and set free from past sin. [as per your testimony] So he has the same mercy and grace toward others who struggle. Jesus is our advocate to the Father when we do sin because only Jesus was actually born on this earth sinless.

 

[BloodBought 1953]

That was actually pretty good...I was surprised, to be frank with you.

I came to the very conclusion that he made only about a week or two ago.

Then why dint you “ sound” like it.....I see no change in you Doctrine.....I hope I am mistaken...The name of this great man of Faith is Ralph “ Yankee “ Arnold.....google “ bible line ministries and learn a ton of stuff”..... Andrew Farley is even better....it can’t hurt anybody to at least hear them out....are you too proud to admit that there are people out there , Gifts From God, that are smarter than us and have a keener, blessed insight into the Things Of God .Almost everybody I know that tried to learn about the Bible and understand it without the help of God-Sent Teachers winded up with a Brain full of Mush .....the had “ a Zeal for the things of God but without Knowledge”....

 

[justbyfaith]

I want to say that Hebrews 10:26-31 and Ezekiel 33:11-20 has worked in my life to place the fear of the LORD in my heart as a deterrent against sinning willfully...and if you are seeking to strip away that fear so that I will sin more, I say, shame on you!

I can see how this teaching might comfort people who may think that they have lost their salvation; but my personal belief is that they will never be restored as long as they cannot apprehend the fear of the LORD that these passages provide for the believer. They will consider that they are saved in the middle of their sins and they will have no righteous and real motivation to repent of them.

 

[justbyfaith]

Then why dint you “ sound” like it.....I see no change in you Doctrine.....I hope I am mistaken...The name of this great man of Faith is Ralph “ Yankee “ Arnold.....google “ bible line ministries and learn a ton of stuff”..... Andrew Farley is even better....it can’t hurt anybody to at least hear them out....are you too proud to admit that there are people out there , Gifts From God, that are smarter than us and have a keener, blessed insight into the Things Of God .Almost everybody I know that tried to learn about the Bible and understand it without the help of God-Sent Teachers winded up with a Brain full of Mush .....the had “ a Zeal for the things of God but without Knowledge”....

I came to the conclusion that God chastens His children so that we are punished for our willful sins that we commit after the Cross in our lives.

Of course, there is a slight problem with that conclusion...and that is that the passage speaks of fiery indignation that will evour the adversaries.

Making that conclusion got me through to the point where I came across the Numbers 20 passage with the knowledge that Moses did in fact enter the promised land...which encouraged me to believe that I can indeed be restored to the level of Matthew 5:6 and Matthew 5:20 and 1 John 3:7 righteousness that I had for the first year of my Christian walk.

 

[CharismaticLady]

And yet Jesus said the following:

John 14:12 KJV
Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father.

And Peter’s and John’s follies occurred before the resurrection. So you cannot use them as an example of erring saved people.

And tell Blood Bought about Romans 8:29-30. Jesus freed us from sin and gave us His Spirit so that we would be like Him.

 

[CharismaticLady]

Wilful sins of lawlessness? Jesus is our advocate for sin period!. Particularly when we are struggling with sin as you once were. Salvation is free but it costs to follow Jesus. Sanctification is a process where new and long time believers are helped by the Holy Spirit to become more like God and less like the world. This is a personal walk so no-one can say, you should be this or that by now because it happened this way for me.

Sometimes we are set free instantly at repentance. Other times it takes a walk with God through a process of dealing with various issues picked up from the world. Understand, that our personal relationship with Jesus is not the same as other believers. We can be instantly set free from sinful vice for example and sometimes it takes a period of time in his presence.

There is no mention of repentance in 1 John 2:1 for Jesus to be our Advocate for willful sins of lawlessness. It goes with 1 John 1:7. You see a person walking in the Spirit, and having uninterrupted fellowship with his brethren, Matthew 6:14-15, and the blood of Jesus is continually cleansing sin. And a person walking in the Spirit could not be committing willful sins of lawlessness. 1 John 3:9

If it takes a long time in his presence, that means they were like I was for the first 30 years of going to church. God was drawing me, but I hadn't completely surrendered yet. But when I did, it was instant.

 

[CharismaticLady]

@CharismaticLady you need to have grace towards those who struggle with sin, particular those who have been a Christian for a long time like yourself but just as you have been forgiven and cleansed and set free from past sin. [as per your testimony] So he has the same mercy and grace toward others who struggle. Jesus is our advocate to the Father when we do sin because only Jesus was actually born on this earth sinless.

Do you know the reason why Jesus was born sinless? Because He had the seed of the Father in Him - the same seed that is put in us when we are filled with His Spirit and born again. 1 John 3:9. Angelina, there is no time to waste. People have got to get out of playing church and actually surrendering their whole lives to Jesus. The Antichrist could be here starting the Great Tribulation in less than 18 months, because the GT is 7 years long, and NASA is watching an asteroid that could be the fulfillment of Revelation 8. The asteroid is due to arrive on April 13, 2029. I am acting on this warning as if it is the fulfillment. It will hit the earth at the shoreline of California and Mexico, causing earthquakes, erruptions on the west side of the US and tidal waves that could destroy all Pacific islands, and the ash for the super-volcano in Yellowstone could block out the sun in all North America and Canada.

My testimony shows what to do. It starts with integrity of heart. If they don't overcome before the GT, they will have to choose whether to take the mark of the beast or not, and will either lose their head, or their hope of salvation. So I hope you can feel my urgency.