Presidential Election Live Coverage 2020

[Bobby Jo]

... if it turns out he loses I'll be very angry... with those who prophesied his victory. And there have been many...

YES I AM! -- And although we see through a "glass darkly", it appears to me that the Timing, the Depictions, and the Circumstances all point to Trump & Pence winning so that they can be murdered. But as we watch, if the future holds what Bible Prophecy appears to align with history, then we should be all the more encouraged in both our FAITH and in our PREPARATIONS for additional portents.

Bobby Jo

 

[lforrest]

YES I AM! -- And although we see through a "glass darkly", it appears to me that the Timing, the Depictions, and the Circumstances all point to Trump & Pence winning so that they can be murdered. But as we watch, if the future holds what Bible Prophecy appears to align with history, then we should all the more encouraged in both our FAITH and in our PREPARATIONS for addition portents.

Bobby Jo

I'm not buying into your theory.

 

[dev553344]

Well I'm back from my doctor appointment and it looks like a loss for Trump. But as others have mentioned, more republicans are in offices.

 

[April_Rose]

Well I'm back from my doctor appointment and it looks like a loss for Trump. But as others have mentioned, more republicans are in offices.

Hey now, it's not over until it's over and Trump could totally sneak up from behind. Look how far he's caught up already.

 

[Bobby Jo]

I'm not buying into your theory.

... and that's the good thing about PUDDING, -- because the PROOF is ALWAYS in the PUDDING!

Bobby Jo

 

[Bobby Jo]

Well I'm back from my doctor appointment and it looks like a loss for Trump. ...

Oh ye of little faith ...
Bobby Jo

 

[rjs330]

There is something important I would like to point out in addition to my above post... it was conservative Christians who spent the years of Bill Clinton's administration (and years after) condemning him for committing adultery and for his perpetual lying about his extramarital affair.

James Dobson said this about Clinton: "As it turns out, character DOES matter. You can’t run a family, let alone a country, without it. How foolish to believe that a person who lacks honesty and moral integrity is qualified to lead a nation and the world! Nevertheless, our people continue to say that the President is doing a good job even if they don’t respect him personally. Those two positions are fundamentally incompatible. In the Book of James the question is posed,“Can both fresh water and salt water flow from the same spring” (James 3:11 NIV). The answer is no."

However, he clearly compromised his moral convictions by saying this about Trump: "I'm not under any illusions that he is an outstanding moral example. It’s a cliché but true: We are electing a commander-in-chief, not a theologian-in-chief.” Quite a difference in his moral convictions.

Franklin Graham said this about Clinton: "If he will lie to or mislead his wife and daughter, those with whom he is most intimate, what will prevent him from doing the same to the American public." However, he obviously changed his mind about his moral convictions when he spoke publicly about Trump's affair with Stormy Daniels. He said, “I think this thing with Stormy Daniels and so forth is nobody’s business. And we’ve got other business at hand that we need to deal with." In comparison to James Dobson, that's quite a difference in Franklin Graham's moral convictions.

Both of the examples I presented plainly demonstrate the moral compromise that has become prevalent among many conservative evangelical Christians in their relentless efforts to justify their unwavering political support of Trump. During the years of Clinton's presidency and Obama's presidency, we never heard any excuses like "We're voting for a President and not a pastor." or "We shouldn't judge the President for his sins."

Christians have come to realize that when it comes to politics very few are righteous and good. And Christians often don't have a lot of choices these days. If Pence was the nominee we would be thrilled. But we don't control the party. I believe most Christians are not registered for any party.

Your kind of post is nothing but divisive. There were millions of believers who voted for Clinton in 2016. But we didn't run around accusing believers of sacrificing their morals for doing so. And we are not now running around accusing believers of sacrificing their morals for voting for Biden or any radical crooked democrat. Those that did so are just as much in violation of scripture if that is your claim.

No, I believe people were voting for policies and not people. We all have come to recognize we can't always get the choice of person. But we can get the choice of policy.

Continuing down the road you have chosen here is divisive and hypocritical.

 

[April_Rose]

... and that's the good thing about PUDDING, -- because the PROOF is ALWAYS in the PUDDING!

Bobby Jo

I'm not really seeing any proof though....

 

[April_Rose]

Christians have come to realize that when it comes to politics very few are righteous and good. And Christians often don't have a lot of choices these days. If Pence was the nominee we would be thrilled. But we don't control the party. I believe most Christians are not registered for any party.

Your kind of post is nothing but divisive. There were millions of believers who voted for Clinton in 2016. But we didn't run around accusing believers of sacrificing their morals for doing so. And we are not now running around accusing believers of sacrificing their morals for voting for Biden or any radical crooked democrat. Those that did so are just as much in violation of scripture if that is your claim.

No, I believe people were voting for policies and not people. We all have come to recognize we can't always get the choice of person. But we can get the choice of policy.

Continuing down the road you have chosen here is divisive and hypocritical.

Hey, she's an American and entitled to her own opinion too. Learning to agree to disagree is one of the greatest lessons one could ever learn.

 

[JohnDB]

What is really disconcerting to me is the way this election cycle was conducted.

Bernie Sanders actually won the Democrats nomination by popular vote....but a few wealthy men vetoed that result and made Joe Biden the nominee.

Then these same wealthy men funnelled hundreds of millions of dollars to fund the Democrats campaigns this year. A Tech Billionaire out of California alone funnelled over 38 million dollars of his own money into Texas to try and influence their election.

Over 100 million dollars was spent to try and unseat Lindsey Graham who had 20 million in a war chest for elections. (No telling if he spent it all or not)

Same thing happened with Mitch McConnel in Kentucky.
Money from outside these states poured in to try and unseat these senators.

On top of this...

We have admitted Federal Election Tampering by the Social Media platforms.

Again a few people controlling and influencing the election process...

Granted...Trump made himself and his personality a campaign issue.

But I'm feeling a huge manipulation of all the campaign issues that were debated...as if the politicians have created the campaign issues instead of just representing us on the ones we actually care about. They have made us care about the things they are talking about instead of allowing the issues form organically.

 

[dev553344]

Hey now, it's not over until it's over and Trump could totally sneak up from behind. Look how far he's caught up already.

Yeah, I'm not holding my breath, but I hope you're right.

 

[April_Rose]

So is the election currently on pause until all of the mail-in ballots are in and counted for or??

 

[APAK]

What you are witnessing with this so-called lull in the vote counting is deliberate, and it's a ceremony for Trump by the ruling class to publicly shame and demoralize him.

The 'deep state' wants Trump to witness his own death, slowly, as if he is literally being tortured for his insolence and cheekiness of going rogue and not sticking to the globalist, NWO script during his 4 years. This is the game these crooks play with each other and most 'common' folks are oblivious to it all. We are their pawns and less in their version of the game of thrones. Trump knows what this 'lull' and more, is all about, believe me....I just wonder what he might do...if anything...

 

[April_Rose]

Yeah, I sort of had a feeling that Trump called it last night. Nearly all the states are red and he was right on the money when he said that he was winning everything. He probably already won but the democrats aren't calling it.

 

[Seven of Nine]

Hey, she's an American and entitled to her own opinion too. Learning to agree to disagree is one of the greatest lessons one could ever learn.

I'm sad to say that it's not only my opinion, as I pointed out in this thread. As I demonstrated in this post, it's a widespread public perception of Trump conservatives. One of the reasons why I decided to distance myself from conservatism (and the Republican Party too) was because of this distressing public opinion of the conservatives who support Trump. Personally speaking, I don't want my Christian faith associated with him.

And THANK YOU for standing up for me, my good friend. I appreciate it very much.

 

[April_Rose]

Oh yeah, and I will admit that Trump has done some pretty stupid stuff, but I was having him for all the wrong reasons before. His personal life doesn't have anything to do with his presidency.

 

[Mayflower]

What you are witnessing with this so-called lull in the vote counting is deliberate, and it's a ceremony for Trump by the ruling class to publicly shame and demoralize him.

The 'deep state' wants Trump to witness his own death, slowly, as if he is literally being tortured for his insolence and cheekiness of going rogue and not sticking to the globalist, NWO script during his 4 years. This is the game these crooks play with each other and most 'common' folks are oblivious to it all. We are their pawns and less in their version of the game of thrones. Trump knows what this 'lull' and more, is all about, believe me....I just wonder what he might do...if anything...

If anything, it shows half of america are not following the media. Trump won Indiana, and all Ive seen on the news is Biden can win this way, that way, or the other. Completely bias.Nothing positive to say about Trump whatsoever. Never heard of dailywire, but love it. Refreshing for conservative voters.

 

[dev553344]

Oh ye of little faith ...
Bobby Jo

Oh ye of too much faith, lol, just playing with you a little, but I'm not buying into your theory either.

 

[JohnDB]

Currently

It looks like 270 to 267...favoring Biden.

But it's nowhere near carved into stone...

It's anybody's guess still.

 

[April_Rose]

Oh and btw, you're welcome @Seven of Nine, but please read post number 416.