The fact that you will listen to someone who is an executive for a company THAT HAS ALREADY BEEN PROVEN to have machines that can and have been rigged is astounding. It just shows how badly you have been deluded.
Presidential Election Live Coverage 2020
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The fact that you will listen to someone who is an executive for a company THAT HAS ALREADY BEEN PROVEN to have machines that can and have been rigged is astounding. It just shows how badly you have been deluded.
You seems to connect a political group with faith. There are believers who are democrats as well as believers who are republicans.
President Trump unfortunately shows all the character traits of a dictator, emotionally, presentation wise and language wise.
I have heard enough right wing groups list him as their saviour of the free world.
This may sound unfair, but years ago they banned the rallies of Hitler being shown because of the emotional draw he had.
We are susceptible to certain kinds of emotional delivery that emphasises our grievances, blames the scape goat group and promises greatness. There is a great group feeling one gets, where the emotions soar. It is a common experience that dynamic leaders can use and learn to express.
Trump can do this. I have listened to his unique thought jumping speeches which are not policy but an emotional dialogue of identity and touching his view of the world. It bypasses logic, and gets people alongside him.
The affront Trump is showing is just that because he lost. Because to him that is impossible. And it is impossible because his view is always right. Again this is a trait of his personality type, and is fine when it is true, but totally flawed when not. The question which Germany faced after the war was how to use their dynamic force for good, for industry and commerce. And equally the republican movement is a powerful force, which can be harnessed to help move the country forward. It is not dependent on Trump, if the people involved can see their common approach to life and desire for change and progress.
It is why for me Trump is not the issue, it is how the republican party can harness this deep swell of lets get on and moving, lets care for our community and our morality, lets take this community on to greater things.
It is why I am not an enemy, just an observer, and someone who admires the great spirit the US represents and desire it spurs itself forward to greater things no matter who is the president. In the end each state is its own small country, which can bring to fruition the good things they see, and the figure head is just that, who sits in Washington, often playing a lot of golf, or in the golden flat in their tower in New York. God bless you
Well I would hope Trump leaves if the courts refuse to eliminate enough votes to show he is the winner. OR if not enough votes are eliminated to prevent Biden from reaching 270.
In fact Trump should leave. If he can't prove his case then he needs to leave. I won't like it, and I will continue nto believe it was probably stolen from him. But I will also understand that God wanted Biden to win in order to judge America for abandoning him.
Trump will wait for the Supreme Court.... If the Supreme Court does actually see just one of the 3 viable Constitutional cases as I count them today, I believe their decision will overturn the election to Trump.
He does also have his EO regarding foreign election interference and national security....
That is a Tactic ...that works...on a crowd who have NO "principle standing" to Begin with!
Democrat...Leaders
Democrat...Leaders
Democrat...Leaders
Repeat, Repeat, Repeat....and soon everyone can pick up the same jargon as no big deal.
Every twist IS a Big Deal. Bit by bit the Big Picture becomes a Blur...Unrecognizable...and generationally a Lost Truth.
Republic Government...Elected SERVANTS
Republic Government...Elected SERVANTS
Republic Government...Elected SERVANTS
The twisted Truth is...the Public at Large has been Tricked into Falling for the endless Barage of bit by bit Garbage....
The Lord God IS the LEADER IN CHARGE.
EVERYONE else IS the SERVANT...
Josh 24
[15] And if it seem evil unto you to serve the LORD, choose you this day whom ye will serve; whether the gods which your fathers served that were on the other side of the flood, or the gods of the Amorites, in whose land ye dwell: but as for me and my house, we will serve the LORD.
Trump is an Elected Servant.
Biden is a wanna be, at any cost, Leader.
Trump entered his Service with Billions of $$.
Biden from first entering a political "career"...
Quotes from the onset...
YouTube...Biden on video...55 seconds.
Hosted by "the Advocates".
Joe Biden
"Don't Assume I'm not Corrupt"...
"Public Office...."It costs a great deal of money to run for the Senate"...
"You have to go to the people who have money"...
" And those people always want something"...
BINGO-
Absolutely TRUE... THE MONEYBAGS Always WANT "SOMETHING"...
Promised...
Government Appointments,
Government Top Secrets,
Government Money,
• Government POLICY making (backdoor) Authority.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
WEF!
If Trump won where is the official count showing this?
I can get drunk and believe a lot of junk, wake up in the morning and recognise I do not define reality, the experience outside myself does.
If Trump has not won, and I mean this factually and in reality, his attempts at accusation and slander is stealing the election from Biden, with intent and malice of fore thought. Now at what point does this become rebellion and sedition, where it stops being honest questioning of the process and the legal conclusions that have been drawn.
It is beginning to look like sedition and not honest questioning, because in legal terms there is no evidence. The Williamsport case demonstrates it all, literally. Believing there is a problem has no legal weight. I can believe my wife is commiting adultery, but this has no weight in court. Making fun of people saying give us evidence is just slander and manipulation. One has the benefit of the doubt to a point, and then it becomes sin.
God dealt with David over Bathsheba. A prophet confronted him, and he repented and came to the Lord desiring forgiveness.
We have no sin or Bathsheba here, or sin that has to be repented of. One commits sin by bearing false witness against ones neighbour.
You shall not give false testimony against your neighbour.
You shall not covet your neighbour’s house. You shall not covet your neighbour’s wife, or his male or female servant, his ox or donkey, or anything that belongs to your neighbour.
Exodus 20:16-17
Staying on as president and desiring the status to continue beyond ones term is sin. Accusing innocents of crimes they have not committed is sin.
Do you think this is repentant behaviour of the people of God towards the Lord of All, or a symbol of the sin and degradation that has gripped the nation and those who claim to follow Jesus the Lord of All. If salt loses its saltiness it is only worthy to be trodden under foot.
You are the salt of the earth. But if the salt loses its saltiness, how can it be made salty again? It is no longer good for anything, except to be thrown out and trampled underfoot.
Matt 5:13
People talk about spiritual reality and victory in Christ, but here is a time of testing. Will Gods people repent or be lost in sin and judgement, worthy of whatever judgement he deems fit to give?
God bless you
Have you really listened to Trump? He is NOT a good speaker. He does not illicit emotional responses by the power of his personality. We conservatives all wish he would.shut up often. That is not a dictator personality.
And what has Trump done over the last four years that is dictatorial?
And what is Biden/Harris wanting to do that is dictatorial?
Believers who follow the Democrats and believe in liberalism have been deluded. Make no mistake they are still Christians. They are going to heaven and I will see them there.
BUT they are under a strong delusion that liberalism is and progressivism is good for people and society. It's not. It's a wicked dictatorial political philosophy that is NOT God friendly. In fact it is opposed to God and his word. It is opposed to freedom.
amigo de christo
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Mothers know .
I watched . i watched as biden groped for a youngster . MAMA knew something was not right .
MAMA supported biden . BUT MAMA got that lil girl away from that man .
EVEN his supporters know , SOMETHIN aint right .
I watched how he touched those girls . YOU DONT DO That . There is a huge difference between being affectionate
and being sick . I do pray for biden . I do . But something AINT RIGHT .
That mother had fear in her eyes . AND SHE SUPPORTES BIDEN . BUT MAMAS KNOW . OH DO THEY .
That man is a sick man . I dont judge him . BUT HE is sick .
amigo de christo
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MARVEL NOT , if pedophlism is the next move of the liberals . THEY , and not just them ,. are twisted .
Its become a very sick world .
Its become a very sick world .
You are still making so much noise and making stew out of something you do not understand. No one has won yet, not even lying Biden or as you might want to say, dictatorial Trump. This obvious gigantic fraud though has to be aired in the court of justice and not by public opinion; at the Supreme Court. As I said before, hold tight, have patience...
Yes I have listened to Trump and it does not connect with me because I am a thinker, logical and intellectual.
Just reading the speeches does my head in, while listening to him the emotional language works. He connects to the base, because they feel their situation. This thread probably is not populated with people like this, because these folk would not like worked through discussions of scripture etc.
Dictatorial. The trait is the demonisation of opponents, the encouragement to violence, the support of extreme groups who are prepared to use violence with the implication they are justified. The big presidential moves are signing personal edicts which are the power of office bypassing congress and the senate. To build the wall, he declared a state of emergency, to give himself powers to enable this to be done.
The idea of diplomacy is not his style, its come in as the boss, tell everyone how it is, and leave.
If his advisors offer advice he does not like, he fires them. So a head of the security of the election declares it is the safest ever, gets fired.
That is dictatorship. It is bounded by constitutional limits, which cannot be broken, but if they could, they would have been.
The whole handling of the election has been an exercise in demonising the opposition, claiming fowl before its happened and pushing claims of absolute proof while delivering none. It is no surprise the legal firms are running for cover. The whole basis of law is showing evidence for your client, not turning up in court, knowing you should abandon the case as their is none to answer. In legal terms this is legal negligence that harms ones own standing with ones clients. You take on cases that have merit, that is ones profession and to speak to the client about ones that do not.
I read an article today that compared Trumps flat to those of dictators round the world. They all follow similar traits. Gold, lavish chairs, mirrors, everything new, power plays and importance grabbing rather than appreciation of craftmanship and work. It is not a criticism, it is what it is, and I am happy for these guys to spend their money as they want, it is just an interesting connection between people of a similar life outlook.
And winners, as these guys view themselves, get there through massive self belief and ego. But as previous presidents have pointed out, being President is to be a servant of the people, for a time.
God bless you
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There is a political gamble in your words. You believe the Supreme Court will overrule democracy.
The problem they have is, they are there to rule of the letter of the law not make it.
The best they could do is interpret the auditing of the election to be done more thoroughly based on gross failures.
But for this to be a ruling, the failures have to be there. As judges they do not make the law and are not free from being impeached.
It is the measure of their profession. Their expertise is to judge the law correctly, not make new law.
Now if one ran the Senate and Congress you could change the law, so things would become easy.
As far as Biden winning is concerned he has won. It is the legal process of certification that needs to confirm the declared result.
Trumps team are trying to challenge this process and failing to date. They claimed this week that it was other people trying except that does not wash when Judy turns up personally in Williamsport to put the case. If the judge dismisses the case without foundation, there is nothing for the supreme court to consider, because that is the whole point. You cannot consider a dismissal for lack of evidence and get it overturned unless you have evidence.
Now of course if the US has become a tin pot country where evidence does not matter, just who is putting the case forward, ie the president of the US, that is real corruption. There are corporations that sue people not because they have merit in their case, but to tie up money and resource in the targeted company, and silence them until the case is over. You can create censure of reporting by doing this, dragging things out for years.
The idea a president is doing this as the losing candidate in an election with the only intent at winning not through the ballot box but by legal means is corruption in its crudest sense. And it works because people now hate the opposition, and no holds barred on their description or demonisation of the opponents.
And you call for silence. I will not be silent because these issues have eternal and political significance. It is by shinning a light in the dark place that darkness does not come to rule and dominate. It is what Gods people do, for the good of all. It is what being salt and light is. It preserves the good and shows up the sin.
God bless you
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Is this over yet? Why do you demand that there immediately be a decision? We have a saying here and that's it's not over until the day lady sings. Where is your evidence that everything has been decided? Where is you evidence that the investigation has been completed and all court decisions have been made?
Where is your evidence that demonization is dictatorial?
Is Biden dictatorial for demonizing Trump? How about Pelosi, Harris and all the Democratic leaders who demonized Trump for four years?
And who has been violent? Trump supporters or Democratic.supporters?
What extreme groups has he supported? And what extreme groups are being violent right now?
What president hasn't used executive orders? Obama? Has Biden/Harris said they would use EOs?
What freedoms have been lost under this dictator Trump?
What freedoms do Biden/Harris plan to take away?
Who is canceling people and ideas? Trump supporters or Biden supporters?
Who has Trump fired illegally?
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