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You are still trying to make excuses for fraudsters. Is that what Christians do, rather than reprove the works and workers of darkness?

Also, you are making a lot of statements prematurely when there are several lawsuits is motion, and eventually the Supreme Court of the United States must carefully weigh all the evidence. Discovery has not even been done as yet.

The point in law is you need a hurt party and a party at fault, and the law that shows the parties fairly.
The real issue here is a lack of audit, and lack of rules about failure to record the vote and audit the vote.

You then create laws and penalties around failure to comply with the audit, and security around the machines.
There is technology are ways of making this bullet proof, so there is no debate. But it costs money and each society has to choose to implement or make do. The introduction of mass mail in voting needs better controls and methods, that is the lesson of this election, except probably nothing more will be done, until the next election with lots of complaints.

Chain of custody. A vote is taken. A number issued. This number is put against a voter, and tracked through the system to the count.
Each voter in the chain can be checked and verified, so all the totals always add up. Each voter is verified as to identity through identity recognition software as already exists. You cannot fake such a chain of custody or invent new voters, dead voters, double votes. You can stop tracing of who voted how through encryption and banning of tracing, just verification of the validity of the chain. This is not massively sophisticated or difficult to implement. But how willing are people to actually do something about it. Is it really a challenge to democracy or just another ball to kick the opposition with? Some countries have actually forced voter ID's and each citizen is forced to participate, ie express an opinion, and it is all open, and anyone can challenge any part at any time. You can then have referendums, and open voting, and closed voting, so people declare their positions or in controversial issues it is hidden. It is much harder to take over such societies, because positions and opinions are open and visible, and need to be addressed. Politicians dislike this kind of democracy, because it is harder to fake real movements and create extreme positions when clearly there is not support for it. In a more technological world, I can see how this is our future, whether we like it or not, because we need to avoid fake news, conspiracy theories and grow up and face the real issues that as societies we need to own and work with.

One serious issue many here including myself will face, is how do we want to die, or survive? A slow lingering death in great pain, or a good end with finality? No joke, this is something I have faced with some uncles and aunts, and one my mother is living with.

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Here is the idea about what is real analysis and facts of the election looks like from Matt Braynard @MattBraynard


Unfortunately this is complicated, and shows there are many different issues and certainly some fraudulent activity.
The FBI want to look at this information because it is real evidence of fraudulent activity and the size of its impact.

Unfortunately real evidence and proof takes time, and there are many actors.
It underlines that the checking of voters and who is a legitimate voter does not work with a signature comparison by machine.
There is an issue about disenfranchising uneducated people, but without legitimate voter identification you do not have a democracy.

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Programming Alert: Livestream for Election Integrity Hearing With Arizona State Legislature, Trump’s Lawyers
BY EPOCH TIMES STAFF


The Arizona State Legislature is scheduled to hold an election integrity hearing on Nov. 30 that will include President Donald Trump’s lawyers Jenna Ellis and Rudy Giuliani.

The event is scheduled to start at 9 a.m. MT (11 a.m. ET) and ends at 2 p.m. MT (4 p.m. ET). The Epoch Times and NTD will livestream the full hearing.

Where to Watch on Nov. 30 at 11 a.m. ET:
NTD America: Verizon Fios® TV, Channel 158

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You are still trying to make excuses for fraudsters. Is that what Christians do, rather than reprove the works and workers of darkness?


Not impressed with that foreigners highly disrespectful comments about Our Sitting President or his interjections into Our voting systems and Legal systems, "as if" his egotistical Opinions are of "any value or interest".
 
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The real issue here is a lack of audit, and lack of rules about failure to record the vote and audit the vote.
You still make comments prematurely. So here is something for you to chew on:

The 'Smartest Man In The Room' Just Joined Sidney Powell's Team

Authored by Andrea Widburg via AmericanThinker.com,

In her Georgia complaint, Sidney Powell included the declaration of Navid Keshavarz-Nia, an expert witness who stated under oath that there was massive computer fraud in the 2020 election, all of it intended to secure a victory for Joe Biden. Dr. Kershavarz-Nia's name may not mean a lot to you, but it's one of the weightiest names in the world when it comes to sniffing out cyber-security problems.

We know how important Dr. Kershavarz-Nia is because, just two and a half months ago, the New York Times ran one of its Sunday long-form articles about a massive, multi-million-dollar fraud that a talented grifter ran against the American intelligence and military communities. Dr. Kershavarz-Nia is one of the few people who comes off looking good:

Navid Keshavarz-Nia, those who worked with him said, "was always the smartest person in the room." In doing cybersecurity and technical counterintelligence work for the C.I.A., N.S.A. and F.B.I., he had spent decades connecting top-secret dots. After several months of working with Mr. Courtney, he began connecting those dots too. He did not like where they led.

Not only does Dr. Kershavarz-Nia have an innate intelligence, but he's also got extraordinary academic and practical skills in cyber-fraud detection and analysis. The reason we know about his qualifications is that it takes seven paragraphs for him to list them in the declaration he signed to support the Georgia complaint.

His qualifications include a B.A., M.A., and Ph.D. in various areas of electrical and computer engineering. In addition, "I have advanced trained from the Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA), Central Intelligence Agency (CIA), National Security Agency (NSA), DHS office of Intelligence & Analysis (I&A) and Massachusetts Institution of Technology (MIT)."

Professionally, Dr. Kershavarz-Nia has spent his career as a cyber-security engineer.

"My experience," he attests," spans 35 years performing technical assessment, mathematical modeling, cyber-attack pattern analysis, and security intelligence[.]"

I will not belabor the point. Take it as given that Dr. Kershavarz-Nia may know more about cyber-security than anyone else in America.

So what does the brilliant Dr. Kershavarz-Nia have to say? This:

1. Hammer and Scorecard is real, not a hoax (as Democrats allege), and both are used to manipulate election outcomes.

2. Dominion, ES&S, Scytl, and Smartmatic are all vulnerable to fraud and vote manipulation — and the mainstream media reported on these vulnerabilities in the past.

3. Dominion has been used in other countries to "forge election results."

4. Dominion's corporate structure is deliberately confusing to hide relationships with Venezuela, China, and Cuba.

5. Dominion machines are easily hackable.

6. Dominion memory cards with cryptographic key access to the systems were stolen in 2019.

Although he had no access to the machines, Dr. Kershavarz has looked at available data about the election and the vote results. Based on that information, he concluded

1. The counts in the disputed states (Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, Michigan, Arizona, Nevada, and Georgia) show electronic manipulation.

2. The simultaneous decision in Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, Arizona, Nevada, and Georgia to pretend to halt counting votes was unprecedented and demonstrated a coordinated effort to collude toward desired results.

3. One to two percent of votes were forged in Biden's favor.

4. Optical scanners were set to accept unverified, un-validated ballots.

5. The scanners failed to keep records for audits, an outcome that must have been deliberately programmed.

6. The stolen cryptographic key, which applied to all voting systems, was used to alter vote counts.

7. The favorable votes pouring in after hours for Biden could not be accounted for by a Democrat preference for mailed in ballots. They demonstrated manipulation. For example, in Pennsylvania, it was physically impossible to feed 400,000 ballots into the machines within 2–3 hours.

8. Dominion used Chinese parts, and there's reason to believe that China, Venezuela, Cuba interfered in the election.

9. There was a Hammer and Scorecard cyber-attack that altered votes in the battleground states, and then forwarded the results to Scytl servers in Frankfurt, Germany, to avoid detection.

10. The systems failed to produce any auditable results.

Based on the above findings, Dr. Keshavarz-Nia concluded with "high confidence that the election 2020 data were altered in all battleground states resulting in a [sic] hundreds of thousands of votes that were cast for President Trump to be transferred [sic] to Vice President Biden."

This is going to be tough evidence for Democrats to counter. Back when the naïve Democrats thought Trump would be the one to commit fraud, they held congressional hearings and wrote articles about the voting machines' vulnerability. And with the New York Times touting Dr. Keshavarz-Nia's brilliance and his ability to sniff out fraud, they'll struggle to [say] that he's not a reliable expert. Things are getting fun.


The 'Smartest Man In The Room' Just Joined Sidney Powell's Team
 

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"Whoever would overthrow the liberty of a nation must begin by subduing the freeness of speech."

—Benjamin Franklin
 
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BREAKING: Judge Orders Georgia Officials Cannot WIPE or RESET Voting Machines
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A federal judge has ordered that Georgia officials may not erase or reset its voting machines until they are further examined by the court.

Judge Timothy Batten issued the order on Sunday ahead of a scheduled wipe of voting machines on the 30th of November by Union County officials.

“To the extent the Plaintiffs seek a temporary restraining order to preserve the voting machines in the State of Georgia, and to prevent any wiping of their data, their motion is granted,” the judge stated in the order.

“Defendants are ordered to maintain the status quo and are temporarily enjoined from wiping or resetting any voting machines in the State of Georgia until further order of the Court.”

Georgia is one the states that used Dominion Voting Systems equipment, which Trump’s legal team alleges was specifically designed to rig elections by swapping votes.

Read the order below:
 

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FBI Asks Pro-Trump Statistician To Share Findings Into Illegal Ballots

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November 29, 2020
Updated: 1 min ago


ByAnonymous

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The FBI – which President Trump on Sunday suggested may be ‘involved’ in election fraud – has asked former Trump data chief Matt Braynard to share his findings on possible illegal ballots cast in the 2020 election.


According to Braynard, who runs the Voter Integrity Project, “The @FBI has proactively and directly requested from me the VIP findings that indicates illegal ballots,” adding “By Tuesday, we will have delivered to the agency all of our data, including names, addresses, phone numbers, etc.”
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Braynard added that “everything I pass on to local/state/fed law enforcement, litigants, legislatures, journalists, etc, is always a copy,” and noted “despite sharing it with individuals from all of those groups, there’s never guarantee of a productive result.”

According to Braynard, his team has found multiple irregularities in the 2020 – including voters who never requested absentee ballots, potentially uncounted votes, and people registering their addresses at postal annex-type businesses in violation of state laws.

“I estimate that the number of ballots that were either requested by someone other than the registered Republican or requested and returned but not counted range from 89,397 to 98,801,” said Steven Miller – a Williams College professor who analyzed Braynard’s data, according to Just The News.

Meanwhile, former Kansas Attorney General Phillip Kline – current director of the Amistad Project of the Thomas More Society and Braynard’s partner in the project, tweeted on Sunday: “After learning that hundreds of thousands of ballots are potentially fraudulent- The FBI has now requested to look at our data.”

Kline noted that Braynard was contacted by “FBI Special Agent Young Oh of the FBI Los Angeles Field Office,” and that they were fully cooperating.

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The notion of Branyard handing over data to the same agency which performed espionage on the 2016 Trump campaign, led by a director which sat on the Hunter Biden laptop evidence of Biden corruption in Ukraine – sitting by while Democrats impeached Trump over asking Ukrainians to investigate exactly that, has many wondering if the agency’s request is intelligence gathering on an opponent, or related to a legitimate investigation into voter fraud.
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President Trump on Sunday suggested to Fox News’ Maria Bartiromo that the FBI and Justice Department ‘may be involved.’

https://twitter.com/i/status/1333076013329297409

Wouldn’t be the first time…
 
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... The notion of Branyard handing over data to the ... [FBI] ... has many wondering if the agency’s request is intelligence gathering on an opponent, ...

Yep, -- and add ME to that list.

Personally, I think the Deep State has so discredited itself, that it may be "... irredeemable ..." to quote an irredeemable politician.


I'm having a dyslexic moment, -- is it " F-B-I ", or " F-I-B "? :eek:
Bobby Jo
 
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You still make comments prematurely. So here is something for you to chew on:

The 'Smartest Man In The Room' Just Joined Sidney Powell's Team

Authored by Andrea Widburg via AmericanThinker.com,

In her Georgia complaint, Sidney Powell included the declaration of Navid Keshavarz-Nia, an expert witness who stated under oath that there was massive computer fraud in the 2020 election, all of it intended to secure a victory for Joe Biden. Dr. Kershavarz-Nia's name may not mean a lot to you, but it's one of the weightiest names in the world when it comes to sniffing out cyber-security problems.

We know how important Dr. Kershavarz-Nia is because, just two and a half months ago, the New York Times ran one of its Sunday long-form articles about a massive, multi-million-dollar fraud that a talented grifter ran against the American intelligence and military communities. Dr. Kershavarz-Nia is one of the few people who comes off looking good:

Navid Keshavarz-Nia, those who worked with him said, "was always the smartest person in the room." In doing cybersecurity and technical counterintelligence work for the C.I.A., N.S.A. and F.B.I., he had spent decades connecting top-secret dots. After several months of working with Mr. Courtney, he began connecting those dots too. He did not like where they led.

Not only does Dr. Kershavarz-Nia have an innate intelligence, but he's also got extraordinary academic and practical skills in cyber-fraud detection and analysis. The reason we know about his qualifications is that it takes seven paragraphs for him to list them in the declaration he signed to support the Georgia complaint.

His qualifications include a B.A., M.A., and Ph.D. in various areas of electrical and computer engineering. In addition, "I have advanced trained from the Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA), Central Intelligence Agency (CIA), National Security Agency (NSA), DHS office of Intelligence & Analysis (I&A) and Massachusetts Institution of Technology (MIT)."

Professionally, Dr. Kershavarz-Nia has spent his career as a cyber-security engineer.

"My experience," he attests," spans 35 years performing technical assessment, mathematical modeling, cyber-attack pattern analysis, and security intelligence[.]"

I will not belabor the point. Take it as given that Dr. Kershavarz-Nia may know more about cyber-security than anyone else in America.

So what does the brilliant Dr. Kershavarz-Nia have to say? This:

1. Hammer and Scorecard is real, not a hoax (as Democrats allege), and both are used to manipulate election outcomes.

2. Dominion, ES&S, Scytl, and Smartmatic are all vulnerable to fraud and vote manipulation — and the mainstream media reported on these vulnerabilities in the past.

3. Dominion has been used in other countries to "forge election results."

4. Dominion's corporate structure is deliberately confusing to hide relationships with Venezuela, China, and Cuba.

5. Dominion machines are easily hackable.

6. Dominion memory cards with cryptographic key access to the systems were stolen in 2019.

Although he had no access to the machines, Dr. Kershavarz has looked at available data about the election and the vote results. Based on that information, he concluded

1. The counts in the disputed states (Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, Michigan, Arizona, Nevada, and Georgia) show electronic manipulation.

2. The simultaneous decision in Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, Arizona, Nevada, and Georgia to pretend to halt counting votes was unprecedented and demonstrated a coordinated effort to collude toward desired results.

3. One to two percent of votes were forged in Biden's favor.

4. Optical scanners were set to accept unverified, un-validated ballots.

5. The scanners failed to keep records for audits, an outcome that must have been deliberately programmed.

6. The stolen cryptographic key, which applied to all voting systems, was used to alter vote counts.

7. The favorable votes pouring in after hours for Biden could not be accounted for by a Democrat preference for mailed in ballots. They demonstrated manipulation. For example, in Pennsylvania, it was physically impossible to feed 400,000 ballots into the machines within 2–3 hours.

8. Dominion used Chinese parts, and there's reason to believe that China, Venezuela, Cuba interfered in the election.

9. There was a Hammer and Scorecard cyber-attack that altered votes in the battleground states, and then forwarded the results to Scytl servers in Frankfurt, Germany, to avoid detection.

10. The systems failed to produce any auditable results.

Based on the above findings, Dr. Keshavarz-Nia concluded with "high confidence that the election 2020 data were altered in all battleground states resulting in a [sic] hundreds of thousands of votes that were cast for President Trump to be transferred [sic] to Vice President Biden."

This is going to be tough evidence for Democrats to counter. Back when the naïve Democrats thought Trump would be the one to commit fraud, they held congressional hearings and wrote articles about the voting machines' vulnerability. And with the New York Times touting Dr. Keshavarz-Nia's brilliance and his ability to sniff out fraud, they'll struggle to [say] that he's not a reliable expert. Things are getting fun.


The 'Smartest Man In The Room' Just Joined Sidney Powell's Team
Excellent article!! God just keep exposing the unfruitful deeds of darkness!
 

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FBI Asks Pro-Trump Statistician To Share Findings Into Illegal Ballots

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November 29, 2020
Updated: 1 min ago


ByAnonymous

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The FBI – which President Trump on Sunday suggested may be ‘involved’ in election fraud – has asked former Trump data chief Matt Braynard to share his findings on possible illegal ballots cast in the 2020 election.


According to Braynard, who runs the Voter Integrity Project, “The @FBI has proactively and directly requested from me the VIP findings that indicates illegal ballots,” adding “By Tuesday, we will have delivered to the agency all of our data, including names, addresses, phone numbers, etc.”
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Braynard added that “everything I pass on to local/state/fed law enforcement, litigants, legislatures, journalists, etc, is always a copy,” and noted “despite sharing it with individuals from all of those groups, there’s never guarantee of a productive result.”

According to Braynard, his team has found multiple irregularities in the 2020 – including voters who never requested absentee ballots, potentially uncounted votes, and people registering their addresses at postal annex-type businesses in violation of state laws.

“I estimate that the number of ballots that were either requested by someone other than the registered Republican or requested and returned but not counted range from 89,397 to 98,801,” said Steven Miller – a Williams College professor who analyzed Braynard’s data, according to Just The News.

Meanwhile, former Kansas Attorney General Phillip Kline – current director of the Amistad Project of the Thomas More Society and Braynard’s partner in the project, tweeted on Sunday: “After learning that hundreds of thousands of ballots are potentially fraudulent- The FBI has now requested to look at our data.”

Kline noted that Braynard was contacted by “FBI Special Agent Young Oh of the FBI Los Angeles Field Office,” and that they were fully cooperating.

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The notion of Branyard handing over data to the same agency which performed espionage on the 2016 Trump campaign, led by a director which sat on the Hunter Biden laptop evidence of Biden corruption in Ukraine – sitting by while Democrats impeached Trump over asking Ukrainians to investigate exactly that, has many wondering if the agency’s request is intelligence gathering on an opponent, or related to a legitimate investigation into voter fraud.
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President Trump on Sunday suggested to Fox News’ Maria Bartiromo that the FBI and Justice Department ‘may be involved.’

https://twitter.com/i/status/1333076013329297409

Wouldn’t be the first time…

This man deserves a presidential medal of Freedom.
 

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This world is tanked . School has become political ideology one O one .
They have. Colleges and Universities are more and more becoming Left wing indoctrination centers.

I remember an interview with the comedian Jerry Seinfeld few years ago. He said he no longer booked comedy shows at Universities or Colleges because of the extreme PC atmosphere being cultivated there. And of course it would be since the PC indoctrination of the Leftist ideology molded children's minds for 12 years, it can't just stop after graduation.
He said his daughter returned home on a break once. She and her mom were in the kitchen preparing a meal when mom asked if she'd met any nice boys while at college.
What was the answer? Oh mom! That's so sexist!

Yes baby girl, sexism is what brought you into the world. :rolleyes:
 

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Here's the thing.
He's not talking to you.
If the Democrats were smart they would just ignore and move along. But they don't.
They come back with some new vitriolic venom and get caught in more lies.. lol

You need to understand the communication is way higher than what we see.
They having a war in heaven and we're on the ground watching it all unfold.

Get yer popcorn.. :)

hahaha
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AMEN! And keep praying. Look at all the good it has done so far. Thank you God.

Is there any news about trying to take custody of the voting machines in these contested districts?
I can’t help but to pray, lol. :)

The Epoch Times has been reporting on the machines in Georgia and who has jurisdiction over them—the counties or the state.... You may want to check out their website.
 
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Almost 50,000 voting machines and 582 computers used in the country's elections went up in flames, electoral council chief Tibisay Lucena said.

So first the raid in German to get the Dominion servers and then the fire in Venezuela to destroy Dominion evidence??

Recent elections in Venezuela have been beset by allegations of fraud.
The company that provided the voting system in the 2017 election for the constituent assembly said that turnout figures had been inflated by one million, an allegation the CNE denied.

There were also allegations of vote-rigging in the 2018 presidential election in which incumbent President Nicolás Maduro won another six years in power.

Source BBC News
Venezuela fire: Thousands of voting machines burned
 
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