Where does the Bible say...

[Illuminator]

What I can't seem to understand ( not that I need to ).. is Why do Catholics desire to argue with non-Catholics to "defend" their beliefs... It makes no sense to me... because there will never be resolution.

Notice that most posts made by Catholics are defensive. We are entitled to the same right to defend and explain as everybody else, especially in the face of lies and falsehoods. Anti-Catholicism is a tradition of men. People find some juicy impressive looking argument opposing Catholicism on other sites, and import them into forums like this one, thinking they have an argument. It crumbles under scrutiny.

 

[BreadOfLife]

What I can't seem to understand ( not that I need to ).. is Why do Catholics desire to argue with non-Catholics to "defend" their beliefs... It makes no sense to me... because there will never be resolution.

Sooooo, we should just allow people to psychotically assault our faith and spread their hateful filth like the angry and Scripturally-bankrupt person below and say nothing??

Defending the faith is defending Christ.

Mark 2:28 "Therefore the Son of man is Lord also of the Sabbath."

Had Jesus not been “Lord of the Sabbath” He would not have been Lord. Said the Same Lord The Word in time past, "The Sabbath is sign between ME and you that I AM your God". Jesus says that He would not be God were He Not Lord of the Sabbath Day.

Matthew 12:7,8 "But if ye had known what this meaneth, I will have mercy, and not sacrifice, ye would not have condemned the Guiltless. 8For the Son of man is Lord even of the Sabbath Day."

Were the Son of man, Jesus, not "Lord even of the Sabbath Day" He would have been Lord of nothing, Lord without a People, Lord without LORDSHIP, and would He have been merciless, blemished Sacrifice for sin, GUILTY and the DECEIVER of lost sinners, in other words, a merciless devil!

 

[ReChoired]

Since having resurrected from the dead "on the Sabbath in fullness of day"

You have a great error, and you refuse to be corrected on it, even after having shown you in multiple ways, in multiple forums. As the scripture says, you are attached to your idol - self. You refuse to let go. It will destroy you if you do not. I have faithfully plead with you, studied with you, and shown you what is right and prayed for you. I can do no more for you, and whatever you do, is now left with you.

 

[GerhardEbersoehn]

He doesn't even reinstate it in His own teaching,

Shows you boasting your ignorance and lack of understanding Scripture, and you're not at all embarrassed. Jesus not only reinstated the Sabbath Day, He as Lord of the Sabbath Day CREATED IT BY HAVING RESURRECTED FROM THE DEAD "ON THE SABBATH" thus authorising and confirming every Old Testament Scripture about Himself and or the Sabbath Day..

 

[BreadOfLife]

Shows you boasting your ignorance and lack of understanding Scripture, and you're not at all embarrassed. Jesus not only reinstated the Sabbath Day, He as Lord of the Sabbath Day CREATED IT BY HAVING RESURRECTED FROM THE DEAD "ON THE SABBATH" thus authorising and confirming every Old Testament Scripture about Himself and or the Sabbath Day..

He rose from the dead on Sunday (Mark 16:9).
He was in the tomb on the Sabbath (Saturday).

 

[BreadOfLife]

Who are you? A nameless faceless ghost on internet. So you are a liar. YOU NEVER DID ANYTHING YOU CLAIM YOU DID. You are a coward. Multiple ways. You haven't shown error in one thing I ever wrote. NEVER.
Go to hell.

I don't agree with @ReChoired either - but YOU need to watch your abusive language.

 

[ReChoired]

Yes! Why then don't you emphasise in bold the most important part of what John wrote here?! Why is it not, "Rev 14:7 Saying with a loud voice, Fear God, and give glory to him; for the hour of his judgment is come: and worship him that made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and the fountains of waters".

PLEASE, let me tell you, WHY!

You and your church like all or any other church under the sun, DISREGARD the proleptic Textual Context in which God "made" and "gave" and "commanded the Sabbath".

Revelation 14:7, "Saying with a loud voice, Fear God, and give glory to him; for the hour of HIS judgment is come", is "God speaking by the Son in these LAST days" of and in CHRIST'S "hour come" at the end of his life and the RESTITUTION foretold in the Bible of all the works and Righteousness of God by the Resurrection of Christ "ON THE WEEKLY SABBATH" whereon the "worship of Him that made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and the fountains of waters" RESTS as it had rested from the BEGINNING.

But everybody and all churches especially the big Sabbath-church the SDA, refuse to read the COMPLETION OF "ALL, HIS, GOD'S, WORKS" of the Seventh Day Rest Day, INCLUDING his greatest and most important work of the REDEEMING REST of God AFTER Genesis 2:2,4 in Genesis 3:8-24 ON THAT SELFSAME DAY THE SEVENTH DAY.

And just the same you like all the Christian Church refuse to see that the creation motive of the first Decalogue made way for the Redemption motive of the later, Deuteronomy Fourth Commandment.

I am exhausted. God be merciful to you and me and all his stubborn children.

FACTS OF SCRIPTURE JUST WAVED by all and every Christian church today-- and all have heard the Glad Tidings . . . it just makes no sense to me.

Why are you complaining against the Seventh-day Adventists? What 'beef' (golden calf) do you have with us?

Have ye never read?:

"... At last Jesus was at rest. The long day of shame and torture was ended. As the last rays of the setting sun ushered in the Sabbath, the Son of God lay in quietude in Joseph's tomb. His work completed, His hands folded in peace, He rested through the sacred hours of the Sabbath day. {DA 769.1}

In the beginning the Father and the Son had rested upon the Sabbath after Their work of creation. When "the heavens and the earth were finished, and all the host of them" (Genesis 2:1), the Creator and all heavenly beings rejoiced in contemplation of the glorious scene. "The morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for joy." Job 38:7. Now Jesus rested from the work of redemption; and though there was grief among those who loved Him on earth, yet there was joy in heaven. Glorious to the eyes of heavenly beings was the promise of the future. A restored creation, a redeemed race, that having conquered sin could never fall,--this, the result to flow from Christ's completed work, God and angels saw. With this scene the day upon which Jesus rested is forever linked. For "His work is perfect;" and "whatsoever God doeth, it shall be forever." Deuteronomy 32:4; Ecclesiastes 3:14. When there shall be a "restitution of all things, which God hath spoken by the mouth of all His holy prophets since the world began" (Acts 3:21), the creation Sabbath, the [770] day on which Jesus lay at rest in Joseph's tomb, will still be a day of rest and rejoicing. Heaven and earth will unite in praise, as "from one Sabbath to another" (Isaiah 66:23) the nations of the saved shall bow in joyful worship to God and the Lamb. {DA 769.2}

In the closing events of the crucifixion day, fresh evidence was given of the fulfillment of prophecy, and new witness borne to Christ's divinity. When the darkness had lifted from the cross, and the Saviour's dying cry had been uttered, immediately another voice was heard, saying, "Truly this was the Son of God." Matthew 27:54. {DA 770.1} ..." - The Desire of Ages, Chapter 80, pages 769.1-770.1​

You can hear it here:

I have multiple times in as many places and forums, and with yourself, stated that Creation and Redemption are tied together, in God's rest, the 7th day the Sabbath, see Exodus 20:8-11; Deuteronomy 5:12-15, &c. Your 'beef' (golden calf) is not with us. It is truly with yourself, and I say this in no mean, disrespectful fashion.

For instance, I once stated:

"For True Rest, is found in obeying God in His Law, not rebelling against Him in His Law. It is fully trusting in His saving Grace and Power to deliver from Sin/Selfishness, that we put away our own works for deliverance, put away sins, which are transgressions of His Holy Law, by that same Grace, but Rest with Him in His Rest, For He Delivers. The 7th Day Sabbath is the Sign of the Finished Work of Jesus, not only in Creation, but also in Salvation, Redemption in His death, He Rested. Who will trust and believe in His Finished Work with us?"​

 

[ReChoired]

He rose from the dead on Sunday (Mark 16:9).
He was in the tomb on the Sabbath (Saturday).

True. But you will waste your breath/fingers with GE. You will go in circles and circles until you are exhausted. I speak of experience. Better to let it go. You cannot reason with the unreasoning. His final 'law' is himself, he is truly haeresis.

 

[ReChoired]

I don't agree with @ReChoired either - but YOU need to watch your abusive language.

I agree with BreadofLife. See, a Catholic (BoL) and a Seventh-day Adventist (myself) can agree in some things.

Another of those things (agreed upon), is in the matter of the children of Joseph (at least 4 known sons, and at least two daughters), they were his children, not Mary's (except by marriage), and existed before Jesus was born to Mary (they were older than Jesus, as Jesus is like David (a type of Christ, youngest)).

 

[ReChoired]

Not only on forums like this, but on so called christian web sites, people are spreading lies about the Catholic Church. I want others to hear the truth.

I am not for spreading lies, but for spreading truth.

For instance, in the matters of doctrine and practice, the Roman Catholic church has some pretty 'ugly' (not pretty) history. From the highest positions ('popes', 'Cardinals', 'Archbishops', 'Bishops' and 'Priests', 'Doctors' (scholars)), and all the way down to the laity, even within the monastic and habits, and even those not of 'orders'. From the earliest times to the present. Documentation can be given from Rome's own scholars on the matter (though it may be watered down or white washed in some instances, sometimes even by their own words). The system is replete with theology and practice which breeds sin. All evidence, in any section, may be provided at your request.

 

[ReChoired]

No, "The Lord's Day" is in fact none other than the "Seventh Day Sabbath OF THE LORD GOD".

That is what I said. Did you read what I wrote in several places in this very thread? Some advice, if you will yet listen, slow down. I know you have a personal agenda to get everyone to believe (that somehow, someway Jesus rose from the dead on Sabbath, though it is simply not so, no matter how much bold giant underlined and colorized print you share), but at least try to listen to someone before going gung-ho with what you need to get across. Some helpful texts:

Pro 18:13 He that answereth a matter before he heareth it, it is folly and shame unto him.

Pro 18:17 He that is first in his own cause seemeth just; but his neighbour cometh and searcheth him.

Pro_12:15 The way of a fool is right in his own eyes: but he that hearkeneth unto counsel is wise.

Pro_17:10 A reproof entereth more into a wise man than an hundred stripes into a fool.

Pro_17:28 Even a fool, when he holdeth his peace, is counted wise: and he that shutteth his lips is esteemed a man of understanding.

 

[ReChoired]

Ummmm, notice that NONE of those verses are from Genesis - as you previously implied.
Get your story straight . . .

I didn't say the verses were from Genesis, neither did I imply such, and I desire you to reflect my response in a straight manner. I asked how did the LORD God find "sabbath" in Genesis as recorded in Exodus 20:8-11, since you stated that the word "sabbath" is not found in Genesis. My 'story' (sic) is very straight. My question extremely pointed and exact. Jesus says the same thing in Mark 2:27. The "sabbath" was "made" for "man (the man)". That refers to Creation. It even uses the same words, if one desires to attempt a comparison of the koine Greek NT, with the so called Greek of a so called septuagint (septuaginta).

Another for instance. I do not find the word "Eve" in Genesis 1, neither Genesis 2. Am I to think that "Eve" was not present there? Or, do I just read a little further into Genesis 3, and then equate the "woman" to "Eve" there, even as God does with the "sabbath" and "the seventh day" and "rest" in Exodus 20:8-11 and Genesis 1:1-2:1-3.

Also, I do not find the word "devil", "satan" or "dragon" in Genesis 1-3 either, but I am later told that the "serpent" represented (was the medium for) the fallen angel, even in the last book - Revelation. I had to wait a long time to get that from God. Seems like a bit of patience and putting things together correctly (Isaiah 28:10,13) is required for this.

 

[ReChoired]

"New Law" giver - as in giver of the New Law.
NOT "New Lawgiver".

Here is what you stated in black and white (I highlighted in red and in blue):

... HE is the New Lawgiver – not Ellen White. ...

You even attempted the correlation with the Seventh-day Adventist who thinks Ellen White is the "New Lawgiver", in the place of Jesus Christ. You were not speaking about the Law, but rather the Person ("HE" (sic)) who gives Law, and thus when you used the word "New" it was in relation to the Person, not the Law. Why do you attempt to say that you said otherwise?

Do you honestly think that what you just did, is right to do?

I even asked you about John 13:34, just in case you did desire to talk about that direction.

 

[ReChoired]

"The LORDLY Lord's Day" OF VICTORY AND TRIUMPH AND RESURRECTION from the dead.

No. You can 'scream' it all you want (and you will continue to do so). Fortunately, you are not my source of Truth, Theology, Practice or even Inspiration. "Repent of your error", will always be the word, from on High, to you, until you follow through with the command.

 

[ReChoired]

Sure, Jesus observed the Sabbath - as He did every OTHER Jewish Law or custom. He DIDN'T make it the centerpiece of His Gospel as SDAs do.

Read Luke 4 with me please:

Luk 4:14 And Jesus returned in the power of the Spirit into Galilee: and there went out a fame of him through all the region round about.
Luk 4:15 And he taught in their synagogues, being glorified of all.
Luk 4:16 And he came to Nazareth, where he had been brought up: and, as his custom was, he went into the synagogue on the sabbath day, and stood up for to read.
Luk 4:17 And there was delivered unto him the book of the prophet Esaias. And when he had opened the book, he found the place where it was written,
Luk 4:18 The Spirit of the Lord is upon me, because he hath anointed me to preach the gospel to the poor; he hath sent me to heal the brokenhearted, to preach deliverance to the captives, and recovering of sight to the blind, to set at liberty them that are bruised,
Luk 4:19 To preach the acceptable year of the Lord.
Luk 4:20 And he closed the book, and he gave it again to the minister, and sat down. And the eyes of all them that were in the synagogue were fastened on him.
Luk 4:21 And he began to say unto them, This day is this scripture fulfilled in your ears.​

The sabbath isn't "Jewish". In order for it to be "Jewish", it would had to have been "made" by a Jew, and it would had to have been a Jew which rested originally and blessed and sanctified it. The only way the sabbath is "Jewish", is if we consider that Jesus (the Creator) is the Lion of the tribe of Judah. Anyways, whether you will acknowledge that or not will not matter that much, but the sabbath belongs to the LORD God, as the LORD God made it, and rested and blessed and sanctified. Moses wasn't a "Jew", he was Hebrew, so also Aaron and Miriam. Zipporah, wasn't a Jew either, and neither the mixed multitude that came out of Egypt with Moses.

Jesus begins preaching the Gospel itself upon the Sabbath, and why? He quotes Isaiah which tells us why. The sabbath is "rest" with God. It is the ultimate inward and outward sign of cessation (rest) from sin (self-works).

Again, we see Isaiah and Amos cited in Acts 15:

Isa 61:4 And they shall build the old wastes, they shall raise up the former desolations, and they shall repair the waste cities, the desolations of many generations.
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The same context is found in Isaiah 56-58. The New Covenant, including the Gentiles who keep the sabbath of the LORD (not sabbath of the Jews, which Jesus contrasted in the NT, for the Jewish Pharisees had a 'sabbath' which was not really the Sabbath of the LORD God, which is why Jesus perfect example is the reinstating the command, by His very Life, and He is the example for all mankind (in spite of what Muslims say about Abu al Qasim)).

 

[ReChoired]

As I showed you before - He doesn't even reinstate it in His own teaching, as He does ALL of the OTHER Nine Commandments (Matt. 4:10, 5:34, 19:18-19, Luke 12:15).

Jesus sets all of the commandments back in their proper perspective. You do not think this action and speech of Jesus in these is didactic, which clearly sets forth the true sabbath keeping, even as He set for the true honouring of Parents (Mark 7:11) or the true not murdering (Matthew 5:21-22), &c?

Matthew 12:1,2,5,8,10,11,12, 24:20, 28:1;
Mark 1:21, 2:23,24,27,28, 3:2,4, 6:2, 7:6-9, 15:42, 16:1;
Luke 4:16,31, 6:1,2,5,6,7,9, 13:10,14,15,16, 14:1,3,5, 23:54,56;
John 5:9,10,16,18, 7:22,23, 9:14,16, 12:1 (calculated), 19:31;​

Mar 2:23 And it came to pass, that he went through the corn fields on the sabbath day; and his disciples began, as they went, to pluck the ears of corn.
Mar 2:24 And the Pharisees said unto him, Behold, why do they on the sabbath day that which is not lawful?
Mar 2:25 And he said unto them, Have ye never read what David did, when he had need, and was an hungred, he, and they that were with him?
Mar 2:26 How he went into the house of God in the days of Abiathar the high priest, and did eat the shewbread, which is not lawful to eat but for the priests, and gave also to them which were with him?
Mar 2:27 And he said unto them, The sabbath was made for man, and not man for the sabbath:
Mar 2:28 Therefore the Son of man is Lord also of the sabbath.

Mat 12:10 And, behold, there was a man which had his hand withered. And they asked him, saying, Is it lawful to heal on the sabbath days? that they might accuse him.
Mat 12:11 And he said unto them, What man shall there be among you, that shall have one sheep, and if it fall into a pit on the sabbath day, will he not lay hold on it, and lift it out?
Mat 12:12 How much then is a man better than a sheep? Wherefore it is lawful to do well on the sabbath days.
Mat 12:13 Then saith he to the man, Stretch forth thine hand. And he stretched it forth; and it was restored whole, like as the other.
Mat 12:14 Then the Pharisees went out, and held a council against him, how they might destroy him.
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You are suggesting that this is not a direct didactic teaching of Jesus about the sabbath, in that it needed to be properly kept, rather than disregarded or improperly kept?

Jesus is the perfect living example of all the spiritual (moral) commandments (Ten):

Luk 6:40 The disciple is not above his master: but every one that is perfect shall be as his master.​

 

[ReChoired]

Is God so strict that he will punish those who got the day wrong ??

Those with knowledge? Yes. Those without knowledge - they will miss the ultimate blessing, though God winks at ignorance.

Joh_3:19 And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil.

Act 17:30 And the times of this ignorance God winked at; but now commandeth all men every where to repent:​

Paul, what did you preach men to repent to?

Act 14:15 And saying, Sirs, why do ye these things? We also are men of like passions with you, and preach unto you that ye should turn from these vanities unto the living God, which made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and all things that are therein:
Act 14:16 Who in times past suffered all nations to walk in their own ways.
Act 14:17 Nevertheless he left not himself without witness, in that he did good, and gave us rain from heaven, and fruitful seasons, filling our hearts with food and gladness.

Exo 20:11 For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.
​

Peter, what did you preach men to repent to?

Act 4:24 And when they heard that, they lifted up their voice to God with one accord, and said, Lord, thou art God, which hast made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and all that in them is:
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John, what did you preach men to repent unto?

Rev 10:6 And sware by him that liveth for ever and ever, who created heaven, and the things that therein are, and the earth, and the things that therein are, and the sea, and the things which are therein, that there should be time no longer:

Neh 9:6 Thou, even thou, art LORD alone; thou hast made heaven, the heaven of heavens, with all their host, the earth, and all things that are therein, the seas, and all that is therein, and thou preservest them all; and the host of heaven worshippeth thee.

Psa 146:5 Happy is he that hath the God of Jacob for his help, whose hope is in the LORD his God:
Psa 146:6 Which made heaven, and earth, the sea, and all that therein is: which keepeth truth for ever (see Psalms 119:142,151, for "truth"):

Isa 37:16 O LORD of hosts, God of Israel, that dwellest between the cherubims, thou art the God, even thou alone, of all the kingdoms of the earth: thou hast made heaven and earth.

Jer 32:17 Ah Lord GOD! behold, thou hast made the heaven and the earth by thy great power and stretched out arm, and there is nothing too hard for thee:
Jer 32:18 Thou shewest lovingkindness unto thousands, and recompensest the iniquity of the fathers into the bosom of their children after them: the Great, the Mighty God, the LORD of hosts, is his name, (Jeremiah is citing the heart of the Ten Commandments, see Exodus 20:5-11, as the sabbath is the sign that God made all things, it is His signature, His name, His character)​

Rev 14:6 And I saw another angel fly in the midst of heaven, having the everlasting gospel to preach unto them that dwell on the earth, and to every nation, and kindred, and tongue, and people,
Rev 14:7 Saying with a loud voice, Fear God, and give glory to him; for the hour of his judgment is come: and worship him that made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and the fountains of waters.
Rev 14:12 Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.​

 

[BreadOfLife]

I didn't say the verses were from Genesis, neither did I imply such, and I desire you to reflect my response in a straight manner. I asked how did the LORD God find "sabbath" in Genesis as recorded in Exodus 20:8-11, since you stated that the word "sabbath" is not found in Genesis. My 'story' (sic) is very straight. My question extremely pointed and exact. Jesus says the same thing in Mark 2:27. The "sabbath" was "made" for "man (the man)". That refers to Creation. It even uses the same words, if one desires to attempt a comparison of the koine Greek NT, with the so called Greek of a so called septuagint (septuaginta).

Another for instance. I do not find the word "Eve" in Genesis 1, neither Genesis 2. Am I to think that "Eve" was not present there? Or, do I just read a little further into Genesis 3, and then equate the "woman" to "Eve" there, even as God does with the "sabbath" and "the seventh day" and "rest" in Exodus 20:8-11 and Genesis 1:1-2:1-3.

Also, I do not find the word "devil", "satan" or "dragon" in Genesis 1-3 either, but I am later told that the "serpent" represented (was the medium for) the fallen angel, even in the last book - Revelation. I had to wait a long time to get that from God. Seems like a bit of patience and putting things together correctly (Isaiah 28:10,13) is required for this.

That's an irrelevant argument. Eve was ALWAYS Eve, whether her name was mentioned or not. The same goes for Satan.
Saturday wasn't always the Sabbath. It was the 7th day - the day the Lord rested.

This goes back to what Jesus told the Pharisees - the Sabbath was made for MAN - NOT man for the Sabbath (Mark 2:27).
The 7th day - the Day of the Lord's rest BECAME the Sabbath under the Law - for MAN.
The very FIRST mention of the Sabbath as a holy day is in Exod. 16:23, where God gives the Israelites instructions for gathering manna, which prefigures the Eucharist (John 6:28-59).

Remember what I said about Type and Fulfillment?
The fulfillment is ALWAYS more glorious and perfect that the type.

 

[WaterSong]

Well, since you were unable to show me a single passage where Jesus said that Christians are to gather on Saturday I guess this conversation is over!

LOL!
Lets see, that's two RCC's that run when they can't handle the truth.
I can see why.

God Bless.

 

[WaterSong]

I will admit I am not the sharpest crayon in the box... but can someone explain to me WHY... the focus on Sabbath being a certain day...
Is there really a difference between interpretations of which day is the 7th??? Does it really matter if Sabbath ( the day of rest ) is Saturday or Sunday?? Is God so strict that he will punish those who got the day wrong ?? Is there such a thing as getting the day wrong??

We are told to give thanks and worship to God on the 7th day... If in good conscience.... a Christian abides by this law... I would think God would honour that.

We're to honor God every day. The Sabbath was made for man by God. A day of rest. A day wherein we are able to leave the commitments the worldly responsibility presents to us, work, etc... and be in contemplation of the scriptures, prayer and/or meditation with/on God and so forth.

What our RCC friends aren't made aware of is that the Old Testament is grounded in the Hebrew faith's practices and traditions. Judaism.
In Judaism the Sabbath is a particular day because of what God decreed as his day of rest after "laboring" to manifest all creation. The analogy pertains to humans and our day of rest as decreed by God. The Sabbath was made for man by God.(scripture) We were not made for the Sabbath.
Thus, it was God who decreed Sabbath day! And as such, since Jesus never renounced it but reminds us he is Lord of the Sabbath, because Jesus is/was God, and he also said if we love him we will keep his commands, the Sabbath day remains as God ordained. That is something the RCC will never teach. Because, as we've seen, the RCC decreed their authority is able to transcend that of God. And as such, they, not God, changed the Sabbath day from its original Saturday to Sunday.

When in reality and truth, per the tradition of the Hebrews, the Jews, in the old testament, Sabbath day, God's ordained Sabbath, falls from sunset Friday unto sunset Saturday.

Yes, every day should be that which we strive to honor God in all we do. Sabbath day is the day we rest in him and give thanks for all that we are and have due to God and his love, grace, and mercy.

That's why the truth is important to get out. Because a man made pagan rooted antithesis of Christ facade has been let to slaughter Christians and others in the millions as it built its empire intent on ruling the world. And in the course of that has led countless people if not to Hell, save for God's mercy intervening, at least to the Hell that is satanic idolatrous misogynistic materialistic practices that damn and doom the soul and the future for as long as it is let to occupy its place on earth. The Caesars intended to rule eternally. RCC is that vehicle that has let them rule for a little near to 1600 years. Constantine was no friend of Christ.
The RCC manufactures doctrine and dogma that is extra-biblical. And corrupts that which is biblical. And for its own purposes and motive, retention of supreme authority.
The Pope/facsimile of Caesar, is the dictator of one of the smallest sovereign nations on earth boasting the largest citizen population in the world. The Roman Senate facsimile are his College of Cardinals. And the materialistic idolatry is found and named as the Vatican Bank.

Never think for a moment the RCC is just a church. Or just a faith.
It's a dictatorship! For all that that means. And it is intolerant of others. https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/catholic-church-only-true-church-vatican-says-1.669714