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Bobby Jo

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... I am not going to debate it. But know that I am not going to ridicule your beliefs.

... and I appreciate that, -- but it may be wise to consider that if GOD provides information to the church, it may be for our benefit (Hosea 4:6). Otherwise maybe he wasted HIS and our time BOTH! :confused:

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I once worked on a VERY High Pressure Vessel application (some 10k psi) to make a material called "aerogel". As such, it seems that the Evidence, Trump's Team, and GOD keep turning the pressure up in these various states to where things will finally have to buckle or blow. And apparently some are starting to buckle. :rolleyes:

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Valid point.
Eventually someone will crack. And that is why I think more arrests should be made. Democrats defining character is dishonesty and immorality. There is really is no honor among thieves. Put the right one under the light and they could start naming names. But for now the system has released the names of the wittinesses but has kept the names of the supervisors at the election poles and post office secret.
 
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This country, our country, our religion is all that stands between us and Satan taking over this rock.

The thing is - is Satan already "the ruler of this world"?
Was he in the past - then Jesus "bound the strong man"?
Is he now decieving the nations?
Prince and power of the air?
Is he crushed under our feet yet?
 
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Yall are pretty good prophecy students - what do you think of Satan bound and loosed - when - how often? Seems he is still decieving nations til 1000 years


Rev 20:3

And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season.


Rev 20:8

And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea.


Notice that in Ezekiel -- it is GOG (a RULER) OF Magog - yet in Revelation - both Gog and Magog are referred to as nations

Things in Revelation sometimes are very near their Old Testament counterparts - Zechariah's horsemen are almost but not quite same colors as 4 horsemen of the apocalypse, Ezekiel's beings seem like those in Revelation except for number of wings - it is fascinating and sometimes bewildering
 
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Yall are pretty good prophecy students - what do you think of Satan bound and loosed - when - how often? Seems he is still decieving nations til 1000 years


Rev 20:3

And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season.


Rev 20:8

And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea.


Notice that in Ezekiel -- it is GOG (a RULER) OF Magog - yet in Revelation - both Gog and Magog are referred to as nations

Things in Revelation sometimes are very near their Old Testament counterparts - Zechariah's horsemen are almost but not quite same colors as 4 horsemen of the apocalypse, Ezekiel's beings seem like those in Revelation except for number of wings - it is fascinating and sometimes bewildering
The Battle of Armageddon takes place at the end of the tribulation and that is when he is bound for 1000 years...then judgment.
Yes Jeremiah, Daniel, Ezekial, Isaiah all cross reference with Revelation
 
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Rev 20:10

And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.

Beast and false prophet ARE - they were there all of the 1000 years - still alive, undestroyed... and apparently so forever and ever (literally until the ages of the ages)
 
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Yall are pretty good prophecy students - what do you think of Satan bound and loosed - when - how often? Seems he is still decieving nations til 1000 years


Rev 20:3

And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season.


Rev 20:8

And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea.


Notice that in Ezekiel -- it is GOG (a RULER) OF Magog - yet in Revelation - both Gog and Magog are referred to as nations

Things in Revelation sometimes are very near their Old Testament counterparts - Zechariah's horsemen are almost but not quite same colors as 4 horsemen of the apocalypse, Ezekiel's beings seem like those in Revelation except for number of wings - it is fascinating and sometimes bewildering
God told me to keep my eyes on Israel....for all prophesy leads up to the Jews and the 144,000....and all nations will turn against her to make war with her....
 

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Rev 20:10

And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.

Beast and false prophet ARE - they were there all of the 1000 years - still alive, undestroyed... and apparently so forever and ever (literally until the ages of the ages)
There is the abyss...the outer darkness...I think Satan gets cast into outer darkness...I don't remember now...m
But this is off topic. Start a thread...
 
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Uh - we had one civil war here in the US
It went on til one side GOT WHIPPED - and they surrendered

so I question what has been alleged that "history teaches"

Robert E. Lee surrendered to Ulysses S. Grant - who was known as "Unconditional Surrender" Grant - but at this time Grant allowed the Confederate soldiers to keep their horses for spring plowing coming up

I don't think rjs330 is a pessimist - I feel the same way - that in spite of the evidence; those people who have been in power behind this fraud up to now will probably not get rooted out of power until the Biden-thing is inaugurated

But remember, Nixon was inaugurated for a second term but did not complete it
And after the civil war the southern blacks were put right back into slavery under a different name. The KKK grew exponentially and it was for another 100 years that blacks could even vote without the risk of getting hung.
But the war itself wasn't only about slavery. It was religious. The Vatican wanted a foothold into American life and politics and they thought the south was the their best bet, and the democrats their party of choice, who supported slavery. A divided America harmonized with Catholic policy to destroy American Protestantism and it's constitution which guaranteed the separation of church and state. Amazing how little, actually no, it isn't amazing how little, when considering the fact that Catholicism, and particularly Jesuitism has had so much influence in American education and the media, it's amazing there is any evidence left at all of the Vatican's role in the assassination of Lincoln.
So there are many lessons from history, none more so than if you ignore Rome's constant effort to undermine and weaken American Protestantism and the constitution, that "image to the beast" will be established sooner rather than later.
 

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Advanced Jesuits mastered the art of shooting themselves from great distances - it was sort of like the Japanese art of Hari Kari.

The founder of Opus Dei committed this form of Hari Kari on multiple occasions - having successfully committed suicide in three different centuries - and also started the branches of both Futurism and Preterism in eschatology.
 
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Can we call the military and tell them there is a coup taking place against the American people?
Here's your answer from Michael Flynn, and it makes good sense under the circumstances:

Michael Flynn endorses martial law and national re-vote for president

'Freedom never kneels except for God'

Former National Security Adviser and retired U.S. Army Lt. Gen. Michael T. Flynn

By Andrew Kerr
Daily Caller News Foundation

Former national security adviser Michael Flynn promoted a petition Tuesday calling on President Donald Trump to temporarily suspend the U.S. Constitution, declare martial law and order the military to oversee a national re-vote for the 2020 presidential election.

The petition, published Tuesday by the Ohio-based non-profit group We The People Convention, said there was “no peaceful way left to preserve our Union” following President-elect Joe Biden’s electoral victory and urged Trump to exercise his “extraordinary authority” to avert a second civil war.

“Limited Martial Law is clearly a better option than Civil War!” a letter accompanying the petition states.

Flynn, to whom Trump granted a presidential pardon last Wednesday related to the retired Army general’s December 2017 guilty plea for making false statements to the FBI, tweeted a link to the petition Tuesday evening.

“Freedom never kneels except for God,” Flynn tweeted.

The letter accompanying the petition said Trump must be prepared to act as former President Abraham Lincoln did at the onset of the Civil War in the early 1860s, including:

  • Ordering “hundreds of Northern newspapers that spoke against him to be shut down and their owners and editors arrested.”
  • Ordering the arrest of an Ohio congressman “for the crime of speaking out against him.”
  • Signing an arrest warrant for the then-Chief Justice of the Supreme Court who ruled that Lincoln had illegally suspended the Writ of Habeas Corpus.
  • Ordering the arrest of thousands of Maryland citizens “for the crime of ‘suspected Southern sympathies,”‘ some of whom were held in military prisons without trial for years.

“Many will object to these actions, as they did in Lincoln’s day, but we assure you that We the People understand that no less action will suffice to prevent the loss of our Constitutional right to vote and preserve our Republic,” the letter stated.

The letter said Trump’s declaration of martial law and temporary suspension of the Constitution must be for the sole purpose of having the military oversee a national re-vote that “reflects the true will of the people.”

Pro-Trump lawyer Lin Wood also promoted the petition on Tuesday, tweeting that Trump should “declare martial law” to avert a civil war spurred on by bad actors led by communist China.

Numerous news outlets have called the election for Biden, who is expected to receive 306 Electoral College votes to Trump’s 232.

The electors for each state are expected to meet and cast their ballots on Dec. 14, according to the National Conference of State Legislatures.

Trump said Thursday he will vacate the White House if the Electoral College formally declares Biden the winner of the 2020 election.

This story originally was published by the Daily Caller News Foundation.


Michael Flynn endorses martial law and national re-vote for president
 

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Holy Cow! Man, just how much more do we need? How can we deny fraud with stuff like this?

Beginnings start small. Beginnings set the Premise. It's been a short time to investigate.
Fraud is being exposed of How it was carried out, in numerous ways. Also being exposed is a collusion of fraud in different geographical areas. The little guys at local geographical locations do not magically ALL come up with the same fraudulent concepts...thus there is Suspect of a behind the scenes Director, or huddled panel of Director(S), who devised the multiple plans to carry out the fraud, carefully positioning Patsys, In moving about under the cover of darkness, keeping the Front Line, Watchers Distanced, and giving the Public at polling Stations misinformation and misdirections.
It's an old Tried and True operation.
The Snake Head, devises the Plan...
The Snake Head, arranges the Patsy's...
The Snake Head, arranges a Blame Object...

* The Object...A Machine...Computer
...Expectation of GLITCHES.
(Machine blame...Dead-end).
* ...Mail-IN...
...Expectation of OOPS, lost, (preached beforehand ...minorities, minorities,)...
(Pre-Established ... disparaging if challenged)
* ...Front Line ... merely patriots, volunteering, inexperienced...oops happen

SEE ???
Glitch- Disparaging- volunteer citizen...

Really ???
•Who is going to POINT a Finger at Those things...as Fraud...without BACKLASH???
•With the FRAUD...being completely ignored and the HIGHLIGHT being Directed TO .... the "poor Disparaged and Patriot Volunteers" ???

SEE ???
• The Bottom Line ???
• The SNAKE HEAD Conspiring the Whole Fraud, IN the Shadows, IN Their Plushy Closed Door Secret Meetings, Dining on Lobster, Drinking cocktails, Sharing Cocaine,
Laughing and Joking at How Clever they Are to Dupe the utterly Gullible Public Peons???

The Investigations are in the Beginning Stage... The Front Line/ Machines are the Beginning steps... TO a quick Resolve for the Literal Vote.
The Decapitation of The Snake Head is the Real Prize. Patience. It's an intended Intertwined Web of Deceit designed to leave the Head untouchable.
Follow the Money...it leads to the Head.
Follow the Plush Players...it leads to the $$

God Bless,
Taken
 

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Here's your answer from Michael Flynn, and it makes good sense under the circumstances:

Michael Flynn endorses martial law...


Personally...I favor an in depth Option of (temporary) Martial Law. (Martial Law Options are Always Temporary).

In Depth meaning...Using Legal means fOR every Optional Purpose of Martial Law.

Sure people for years have called for Draining the Swamp...many may not know the background ...but D.C. was literally a swamp land.

The US was Established as a Land of Opportunity...
Not a Land of Endless Generational citizen Burdens.
Not a Land of Welcoming Foreign Burdens and Criminals.

The Unchecked...US military spread around the world while the US is being Taken Over...
• Borders, illegal aliens, unchecked background of Visas issued, unchecked of Visa holders overstaying, foreign refugees by the millions, underground Anti-American groups flourishing unfettered, domestic Terriorists working dirty deeds undercover of darkness, rioters, looters, thieves, murderers, mobsters "owning" territories of private businesses, punk gangs "owning" territories to peddle Drugs to kids, the Schools; institutions for "Programing"...by erasing True History and Establishing "Programs"...for every imaginable way to TO Corrupt their Minds, in fostering a Divide..( under the Pretense EVERYTHING "they promote", IS Tolerable, IS Acceptable, IS Right, and "they" having "programs" for Drugs...prescribing AND dispensing !!!

Brainwashing 101... Drug Induced...
Foreign Invasion... Lawlessness...Unfettered.

Sure the Valid Votes are a Pressing Timeline Issue...requiring a Swift Resolve.

The BIG Picture Requires A "Swift" Resolve...
Every Angel, no nonsense BS.
Illegals are not, "sort of" guilty.
Underground Anti-Americans are not, "pretend" Anti-American.
Refugees are not, "pretend" burdens.
Unchecked Visa holders, are not "pretend" frauds.
Mobsters, gangs, are not "pretend" terrorists.
Rioters, looters, attackers, are not "pretend domestic terrorists".
The ON Duty Military everywhere BUT IN the US...are NOT positioned...to Resolve the Out of Control IN the US "HOST" of "UNFETTERED" issues.

The US needs a (borrowed term) RE-SET...
"Back TO" America's Founding and Established ROOTS...(that are being Broken OFF Branch by Branch...BY Foreign Intervention.)

Pi$$ on a Global Re-Set, BY Foreigners!!
Remove the FOREIGN "yeast" deposits, that rise and flourish "unfettered"...that Leave NO Resemblance...of The "Fought, Hardships, Struggles and Died For"
Established AMERICA.

My personal View.

Glory to God,
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Can we call the military and tell them there is a coup taking place against the American people?

They KNOW!!
It is the umpteen "Millions" of Carefully Crafted TWISTED "Unconstitutional" Laws ...
that give way to a Circle Jerk, of "pretending" Justice "prevails"... when a couple of "patsy's" are Locked up...while the Corrupt "Organization" remains and continues and flourishes....like a KRAKEN.

FYI- a KRAKEN is an old Norse "mythical sea creature"... with far reaching tentacles.

Get it? A myth...unseen...but magically has the power to TO reach and Cause Disturbance and Harm to an unsuspecting community and individuals...and "they", the community and individuals are Bewildered, as to What Happened...

The KRAKEN...IS the Unseen "POWER", that "HIDES" in the Shadows, Shoving "MONEY, MONEY, MONEY" through the Cracks..."TO" Any and Every Individual...who "IS WILLING".. TO "relent" TO the Power (and desires, control, laws, policies, force)....FOR the Exchange, Prize, Reward...
OF MONEY, MONEY, MONEY!!!

The KRACKEN "POWER" infecting the US IS FOREIGN.
The KRACKEN "tenacles" infecting the US ARE "DOMESTIC"..."recipients" of the MONEY, MONEY, MONEY.
^ They inturn...PREACH "to their minions" wealth is Terrible to "only" be In the hands of Few....They Promise their minions to implement LAWS to "Take from the Wealthy" and Distribute it to ALL...and "they" also will be Equal to the Wealthy....yippie!!!

It fails. The "tentacles" Remain Wealthy, unnoticed by the "minions"... The minions Receive SCRAPS, and are told they are Thrilled. The Slums Flourish. The "Tenacles" Point their Fingers TO Wealthy individuals, businesses....as "Culprits who ARE KEEPING" "the minions" in Poverty and Slums.

Meanwhile...the KRAKEN Power remains, (luxury, comfort, Control)...
The "Tenacles" remain, (taking Money through the cracks, luxury, comfort, ...positioning themselves with "control" of A PEN...to Write and Secure UNCONSTITUTIONAL "Theft" legislation...
While the "Tenacles" sooth their "minions"....By waging their Tongue 24-7, Pointing their Finger 24-7 (brainwashing 101),
•••Every WOE of the "minions"...IS "Caused BY and Should be Blamed on" EVERY Wealthy, Working, Earner...taking care of "THEMSELVES"....and TO STINGY...to NOT Gleefully ASSUME the Responsiblity of A LIFELONG Generational Burden.

Inanutshell...the whole Big Picture is Nothing New...it is Historical...it has been effected Historically over and over...and the "minions"...HA...void of History, TOLD they ARE Exceptionally Intelligent, Accept bumpers stickers, trophies, ribbons, pins as proof they rank highly...(are something NEW!!!) ARE but a brood of drug induced, manipulated pawns, serving a small purpose and are expendable, as the The aborted, The elderly, The "predetermined" stingy, the Standing Patriots...and any other that Is "Against" the Kraken...or has "Fulfilled" its little Useful Role in Exalting the Kraken...
All are "ultimately" on the Burden chopping Block that Does NOT Provide a Service TO the Kraken. Service Fulfilled... servant now a Burden... Historical factual result.

Glory to God,
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