Exactly ...but once Jesus came, there were no such commandments to go to war. But what are you going to do about the fact that Trump is a perpetrator within the MK program? Do babies and children victimized by him and others before him not deserve defense?
Presidential Election Live Coverage 2020
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Bobby Jo
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STOP SINGING MY SONG!!!
YOU my dear friend are exactly correct, except it's my expectation that we use the sword ONLY in SELF DEFENSE:
Rev. 13:10 ... if any one slays with the sword,
with the sword must he be slain...
Many well intended, -- but NAIVE --, think they can ignore Jesus' INSTRUCTIONS (Lke 22:36) which are provided so that they should not suffer loss, -- and persist in their IMAGINATIONS over Scriptural guidance.
And as the saying goes: TWO is ONE, and ONE is NONE, but THREE is BEST; because "swords" tend to malfunction when needed the most!
With VERY BEST Regards,
Bobby Jo
WaterSong
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WaterSong
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Is it not self defense? In the battle of national defense?STOP SINGING MY SONG!!!
YOU my dear friend are exactly correct, except it's my expectation that we use the sword ONLY in SELF DEFENSE:
Rev. 13:10 ... if any one slays with the sword,
with the sword must he be slain...
Many well intended, -- but NAIVE --, think they can ignore Jesus' INSTRUCTIONS (Lke 22:36) which are provided so that they should not suffer loss, -- and persist in their IMAGINATIONS over Scriptural guidance.
And as the saying goes: TWO is ONE, and ONE is NONE, but THREE is BEST; because "swords" tend to malfunction when needed the most!
With VERY BEST Regards,
Bobby Jo
Give God the glory sister and pray for those who are mixed up about who Jesus is and who he is Not!
WaterSong
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No? Jesus is the same yesterday, today, and forever. Jesus was God.
"And you shall call his name Emmanuel, meaning God with us." Every war God led in the OT was Jesus leading the war in the OT.
What are you doing about the alleged fact you refer to here? No disrespect for your trials and travails intended. I don't know for a fact Trump is what you say he is.
What I am fighting for is my country and its future. And that fight entails the highest office in this country and as such the future of this country. I can concede and accept Joe Biden as Commander and Thief of that office. Or, I can resist and oppose the criminal act of Treason and support the man I voted for; Donald J. Trump.
You see, one way or the other someone is going to take the Oval Office before the close of January. If the presidential process goes according to past history. I can accept a thief in leadership. Or I can fight for the man I chose to lead the future of my country.
Grailhunter
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Certainly being critical of everyone is a....is....what? Universal negativity? Disconnected from reality?
If Christ or Santa Claus were running for President we could vote for them....
But that is not going to happen....you do know that....right?
For those that care and have a conscience, we have to do the right thing within the confines of reality, regardless of how flawed it is.
If you cannot see the difference between Trump and Biden how numb are you to reality? Lawful and lawless both evil? Protecting the innocent or murdering babies both evil? Promoting God or atheism, both evil? Democracy or Communism, both evil? Murderous mobs or cheering supporters, both evil? In motion you are describing a mind that really cannot discern much of anything. A grocery store must really be a challenge?
Then again it does not take much thought or effort...you do not have to take a stand or support anything or anyone, just condemn reality as a whole...
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WaterSong
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Beware those who deny all that Jesus said he is, was, or ever shall be.
- The Hand of God in America's War for Independence
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Bobby Jo
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Is it not self defense? In the battle of national defense?
... not when the "nation" is destroying our Constitution and Individual Freedoms.
It's this "nation" that will be sending those who won't worship the Beast into concentration camps, under the FULL Power of the Intelligence Agencies and those Justice Department resources available to those who have conspired to assassinate both the President and Vice President; and have installed the Democratic Speaker Of The House as the New President.
And don't forget all the surveillance cameras, license plate readers, facial recognition, phone and computer tracking, and financial tracking tools available to enforce the Rev. 13:10 outcome.
So I'd advise that there's only two options:
1. Preach the Word, and be martyred for refusing the Mark of the Beast.
2. Keep your head down and see Jesus' Return.
2. Keep your head down and see Jesus' Return.
With VERY BEST Regards,
Bobby Jo
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My concern is simple. You use the word treason for a man following the legal voting process.
That expression is sedition against the state. The point of law is to decide the choice despite disagreement. To call the process a steal or evil is sinful and wrong. As Christians our walk is a peaceful one despite injustice. That is the way of Jesus. To hold to propoganda and then hold to sedition is not sane or Jesus's way.
Trump is a dictator and determined to have a coup. He will succeed or be removed. It is also clear Trumpites have no issue with a coup. It is what always has lain in the shadows of right wing America, and is finally bearing fruit with the prosperity gospel and positive thinking backing it all the way. Rome started its fall when Ceasers took over......
God bless you
WaterSong
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Exodus 15:3
The Lord is a man of war; the Lord is his name.
Revelation 12:7
Now war arose in heaven, Michael and his angels fighting against the dragon. And the dragon and his angels fought back...."
Luke 22:36
He said to them, “But now let the one who has a moneybag take it, and likewise a knapsack. And let the one who has no sword sell his cloak and buy one."
"When a strong man, fully armed, guards his castle, his property is safe" Luke. 11:21
WaterSong
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What if this is not that time? What if this resistance against this Steal is to test our metal now when faced with an enemy that is flesh and blood and corrupt, as Joe Biden?
Notice below?
Permitted by whom do you think?
If the war comes in my lifetime, this saint would rather die fighting because she knows her name is written in the Lambs book of life. God made me what I am. Passive isn't it.
Revelation 13:7 Then the beast was permitted to wage war against the saints and to conquer them, and it was given authority over every tribe and people and tongue and nation.
Revelation 13:…6 And the beast opened its mouth to speak blasphemies against God and to slander His name and His tabernacle—those who dwell in heaven. 7 Then the beast was permitted to wage war against the saints and to conquer them, and it was given authority over every tribe and people and tongue and nation. 8And all who dwell on the earth will worship the beast—all whose names have not been written from the foundation of the world in the Book of Life belonging to the Lamb who was slain.…
Bobby Jo
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LOL, -- we'll know when we see Trump & Pence win a Second Term, and are subsequently assassinated in the streets.
And I know that most people aren't aware of a LOT of Bible Prophecy aspects which point to this time in History. But seeing those aspects, I'd advise that we ARE in that time!
With VERY BEST Regards,
Bobby Jo
Grailhunter
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You really should be concerned that nearly every conclusion you come to is wrong all the time. Everything you have said here is absolutely wrong! You try to apply your conclusions to religion and even that does not fit.
WaterSong
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And when they are not dead in the street? It is for that very reason they don't appear together in the public sights.LOL, -- we'll know when we see Trump & Pence win a Second Term, and are subsequently assassinated in the streets.
And I know that most people aren't aware of a LOT of Bible Prophecy aspects which point to this time in History. But seeing those aspects, I'd advise that we ARE in that time!
With VERY BEST Regards,
Bobby Jo
What then? When, being optimistic prayer will bring Trump a second term, they take a second term in office and live those whole four years, and retire from office in 2025.
What then?
Bobby Jo
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Ummmmmmmmmm, I hate to break the news, but HIH doesn't have any "conclusions". He only has Mis-information and Dis-information. And he baits the Forum and they bite, in spite of our INSTRUCTIONS:
Matt. 15:13 ... “Every plant which my heavenly Father has not planted will be rooted up. 14 Let them alone; they are blind guides. And if a blind man leads a blind man, both will fall into a pit.”
And where one of my "requirements" was a class in Psychology, we learned the simple game of "Kick Me Again", -- where one person baits another, who falls for it, and then the first person KICKS the second person. And the game keeps being played as long as the second person is stupid enough to keep falling for it.
So why do you keep falling for it?!?
Bobby Jo
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Of course there are those who have never known Jesus at all. They would be I suppose the unbelievers who remain dead in the eyes of God. Then there are those who have met Jesus and love him. How many from among those have already passed from a "through a glass, darkly" vision to the "face to face" vision of which Paul wrote? How many already know both the end of the matter and the means by which that end will come? Who are we following? Jesus? I suspect that from the time of the Reformation when Martin Luther posted his 95 theses to to now the leaders of many groups, which were to become some of these various denominations we see today also said they were following Jesus. But now... this is different because the world as we have known it is coming apart at the seams. Hmmm?
The United States that we have loved had been changed and is changing. Let's change it back and everything will be OK. Who really believes that?
Our only real hope for something better is Jesus. I do not believe Jesus is the Head of this movement to keep Trump in office and thereby to save America. Is that the first thing to be sought according to the written words of Jesus? What should be sought first before His Kingdom as per...
But seek ye first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you.
Take therefore no thought for the morrow: for the morrow shall take thought for the things of itself. Sufficient unto the day is the evil thereof." Matt 6:33-34
And then...
"Jesus answered, My kingdom is not of this world: if my kingdom were of this world, then would my servants fight, that I should not be delivered to the Jews: but now is my kingdom not from hence." John 18:36
But so then we should believe those who say we need to stand together and fight for what... something in and of this world?
Bobby Jo
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I'm neither an optimist or a pessimist. I simply understand Bible Prophecy and attempt to anticipate future events so that I don't suffer loss. (Hsea 4:6)
But the real question is the PUDDING. Personally I like Vanilla, but can go with Butterscotch; and not so much chocolate. And when the PUDDING is done we'll taste it, hopefully when T&P are re-elected, -- because it just might give us a couple months extra preparation time for when we can't buy or sell.
And having been preparing my household for a number of years, -- two months DISAPPEARS FASTER than you might guess, given all the food, shelter, necessities, and other provisions that a person might like when transitioning from a Luxury Liner to a Life Boat.
With VERY BEST Regards,
Bobby Jo
It is too bad that Trump was not a real dictator. Had he been one the Obamas, the Bidens, the Clintons, the Pelosis and the Schumers, would have all been in prison, and America would have been well rid of them. He would have cleaned house THOROUGHLY, not as he did and sabotaged himself. This election fraud occurred only because Trump did not go after all the bad guys ruthlessly for the past four years.
Obviously, you are blissfully unaware of recent events, since the coup AGAINST TRUMP was initiated by Obama and Biden, and carried out by the Deep State operatives in the CIA, FBI. DOJ, etc. Since the law enforcement officials and officers themselves became criminals, who would arrest the other criminals in high offices? Now that the Supreme Court has BLATANTLY violated the Constitution, who will impeach all those phony judges and put them behind bars?
amigo de christo
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Sister i have been getting concerned about something .
Folks need to get our minds back on the real Kingdom , which is not OF this earth .
I am seeing fed up folks who if biden or trump said to raise up arms and fight , TEHY WOULD . THAT is scary .
We cannot have any part of it . I know the election was stolen . But lambs HAVE ALL HOPE no matter who comes against us or what comes against us . WE must be JESUS centered . The churches liberal and or conservative , HAVE FAILED the people .
We must make the focus on JESUS again , the bible again and just be prepared to endure what is coming .
Cause GOD said how it would look near the end . HE even allows the beast to come to power and the kings to surrender and agree to the beast .
WELL its moving fast right in that direction . WE must stand firm in the true faith with our focus on JESUS and in those bibles .
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