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Which Bible verses do you base this conclusion on?I came to the conclusion that the Holy Spirit is God, and the Father and Son are roles of Him.
I don't quite understand it, but that's the only answer there is.
There is no point in proving anything with single Bible verses, I have read a lot from the Bible, and over time I have come to this conclusion.Which Bible verses do you base this conclusion on?
So, your conclusion is not based on the Bible?? If it is, then you should be willing to point to some verses. If not, this is the Christian theology forum. Perhaps this thread should go elsewhere.There is no point in proving anything with single Bible verses, I have read a lot from the Bible, and over time I have come to this conclusion.
The proper way to understand the Mystery of God and Christ is this:I came to the conclusion that the Holy Spirit is God, and the Father and Son are roles of Him.
I don't quite understand it, but that's the only answer there is.
You’re sounding a bit mystical, Enoch. Do you believe that the Father, Son and Holy Spirit are one God, or three Gods?The proper way to understand the Mystery of God and Christ is this:
God the Father (masculine) is neither the Son nor the Holy Spirit
God the Son (masculine) is neither the Father nor the Holy Spirit
God the Holy Spirit (masculine) is neither the Father nor the Son
There is at least one person here who is confusing Christ with the Holy Spirit. There are others who flatly reject the deity of Christ and the doctrine of the Holy Trinity (the triune Godhead). And then there are some who claim that the Son of God is not God the Son, or that He is not God the Word.
I came to the conclusion that the Holy Spirit is God, and the Father and Son are roles of Him.
I don't quite understand it, but that's the only answer there is.
Right, don’t sweat the details about what the BIBLE says, lol.I wouldn't spend too much time trying to figure out God. It should be enough to say there is a Father, Son and Holy Spirit which are all God.
I could say that Jesus has a holy spirit also, and that God the Father has a different holy spirit, and I have experienced this in communion. But I would get argued with. And that's probably what you will find here as there are many that have divers beliefs here. Cheers!
Right, don’t sweat the details about what the BIBLE says, lol.
The doctrine of the Trinity is that there is ONE GOD who exists are THREE divine Persons -- Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. There is no doubt that this is beyond human comprehension, hence it is called "the Mystery of God" and "the Mystery of God and Christ".You’re sounding a bit mystical, Enoch. Do you believe that the Father, Son and Holy Spirit are one God, or three Gods?
I know all about the doctrine of the Trinity. I was asking what YOU believe.The doctrine of the Trinity is that there is ONE GOD who exists are THREE divine Persons -- Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. There is no doubt that this is beyond human comprehension, hence it is called "the Mystery of God" and "the Mystery of God and Christ".
That’s what you implied. I have found some of your theology to be based more on mysticism than on the Bible.Is that what I said? And why are you laughing at my idea?
John 4:24 "God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth."
Matthew 1:23 "Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us."
Isaiah 63:16 "Doubtless thou art our father, though Abraham be ignorant of us, and Israel acknowledge us not: thou, O Lord, art our father, our redeemer; thy name is from everlasting."
What part about these verses didn't I just indicate to follow?
I know all about the doctrine of the Trinity. I was asking what YOU believe.
I’m not aware of a Bible verse that calls the Trinity “the mystery of God.” Is there one?
That’s what you implied. I have found some of your theology to be based more on mysticism than on the Bible.
That their hearts might be comforted, being knit together in love, and unto all riches of the full assurance of understanding, to the acknowledgement of the mystery of God, and of the Father, and of Christ; (Col 2:2) [Note: While the Holy Spirit is not explicitly mentioned here, we know from many other Scriptures that He is God]I’m not aware of a Bible verse that calls the Trinity “the mystery of God.” Is there one?
That their hearts might be comforted, being knit together in love, and unto all riches of the full assurance of understanding, to the acknowledgement of the mystery of God, and of the Father, and of Christ; (Col 2:2) [Note: While the Holy Spirit is not explicitly mentioned here, we know from many other Scriptures that He is God]
Why are you muddying the waters by mentioning New Age beliefs? Looks like you do not wish to believe what is actually stated in Scripture. Yes, many mysteries are mentioned in the NT, but we are focused on the Mystery of God and Christ.Many New Age beliefs are derived from the ancient "mystery schools."
and a wrong one.There is no point in proving anything with single Bible verses, I have read a lot from the Bible, and over time I have come to this conclusion.
My bad. I thought YOU were muddying the waters.Why are you muddying the waters by mentioning New Age beliefs? Looks like you do not wish to believe what is actually stated in Scripture. Yes, many mysteries are mentioned in the NT, but we are focused on the Mystery of God and Christ.