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Why dont you have children?? Dont you know what a son, is, I have 3. Crazy thing is my ex cant tell the diff between me and my middle son when we on the phone, neither can his friends. So when I listen to him I know what I sound like, Rather odd.
first thanks for the reply, second, that's exactly what I thought you would say. you have no clue what a biblical son is, do you?. lets get educated.
Son, G5207 huios. according to primarily signifies the relation of offspring to parent (See John 9:18-John 9:20; Gal 4:30. It is often used metaphorically of prominent moral characteristics. descendants, without reference to sex, Rom 9:27 those who act in a certain way, whether evil, Matt 23:31, or good, Gal 3:7; (g) those who manifest a certain character, whether evil, Acts 13:10; Eph 2:2, or good, Luke 6:35; Acts 4:36; Rom 8:14.

see the term Son do not always mean a Natural Son of the Flesh. as in son of David, was David his Natural son?... NO. but only in legal or by Law. lets see an example, 1 Timothy 1:2 "Unto Timothy, my own son in the faith: Grace, mercy, and peace, from God our Father and Jesus Christ our Lord." was Timothy Paul's natural son?... no.

now was the Lord Jesus Joseph or Mary's Natural blood, DNA Son? NO, if you say yes to either, post book, chapter, and verse to that fact. and note, I didn't say BIRTH MOTHER, as in surrogate mother, but natural Mother, Bone of my bone, and flesh of my flesh, biological.

and if you cannot post scripture to prove that the Lord Jesus is any man or woman ... Natural biological son, then your argument falls apart.

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look to hear from you.

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Your shouting again, is this what you do when you dont want to hear the truth?

But you see Jesus had One biological Parent Mary, that you cannot dispute. And that is why he is the Son of man, He never became the Son of God untill,

Mat 3:16 And Jesus, when he was baptized, went up straightway out of the water: and, lo, the heavens were opened unto him, and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove, and lighting upon him:
Mat 3:17 And lo a voice from heaven, saying, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.

Now HE is the first of the new creation, man with the Spirit of God in Him. And at was it 30, seems 30 is the age when Jews get authority.

God never changes the same yesterday today and forever, you keep telling me He did.
 

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But you see Jesus had One biological Parent Mary, that you cannot dispute. And that is why he is the Son of man, He never became the Son of God untill,
prove it by scripture that the Lord Jesus is Mary's biological son. because I have proof that she is not his biological mother, and that by scripture

1 Thessalonians 5:21 "Prove all things; hold fast that which is good."

NOW post your scripture that prove that the Lord Jesus is Mary's biological son, scripture please..... :eek: YIKES!

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Think on it a bit, I'll be out for a few min . but take your time in answering

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prove it by scripture that the Lord Jesus is Mary's biological son. because I have proof that she is not his biological mother, and that by scripture
She is, because if She wasnt He would not be "man"and than the whole salvation message is a lie and we are not saved, will you keep preaching the lies?? Oh and yes you do seem to be sabotaging the things of the spirit, you may want to think on it.
 

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She is, because if She wasnt He would not be "man"and than the whole salvation message is a lie and we are not saved, will you keep preaching the lies?? Oh and yes you do seem to be sabotaging the things of the spirit, you may want to think on it.
no scripture? so we can take this as you have no biblical answer ... do you?.... :rolleyes:

now try again, but this time post scripture to back up what you say.


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no scripture? so we can take this as you have no biblical answer ... do you?....

Mat_16:27 For the Son of man shall come in the glory of his Father with his angels; and then he shall reward every man according to his works.

Mind you there are lots of people that walk this world today who are sons of Gods
 

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Mat_16:27 For the Son of man shall come in the glory of his Father with his angels; and then he shall reward every man according to his works.
that's no proof of the Lord Jesus being Mary's biological son. and as a matter of Fact, the Son of man came from Heaven, and the son of God came out of Mary's womb... :eek: YIKES!

now try again, and please do better next time..

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@mjrhealth, you don't have a scripture, just as I thought.

good day.

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Yes just like so many christians need scripture to back up there lies. As all the right questions for all the wrong reasons. Its hard to convince am man who believes a lie, even if you showed Him the truth, even Jesus had that problem,.

Mat_1:20 But while he thought on these things, behold, the angel of the Lord appeared unto him in a dream, saying, Joseph, thou son of David, fear not to take unto thee Mary thy wife: for that which is conceived in her is of the Holy Ghost.

conceive
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verb: conceive; 3rd person present: conceives; past tense: conceived; past participle: conceived; gerund or present participle: conceiving
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create (an embryo) by fertilizing an egg.
"she was conceived when her father was 49"

The spirit of God fertilizing the Egg of a woman, and so we have the son of man. Like I keep explaining to you, If Jesus is God than you have no salvation, it was only a man that could do what He did, Him alone.

Joh_11:50 Nor consider that it is expedient for us, that one man should die for the people, and that the whole nation perish not.

Rom_5:15 But not as the offence, so also is the free gift. For if through the offence of one many be dead, much more the grace of God, and the gift by grace, which is by one man, Jesus Christ, hath abounded unto many.

And again no honour is given to Christ.

Rom_5:17 For if by one man's offence death reigned by one; much more they which receive abundance of grace and of the gift of righteousness shall reign in life by one, Jesus Christ.)
 

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that's no proof of the Lord Jesus being Mary's biological son. and as a matter of Fact, the Son of man came from Heaven, and the son of God came out of Mary's womb... :eek: YIKES!
But you don't even believe that Jesus is the Son of God. :eek: YIKES!

Mark 1:1 (NKJV)
1 The beginning of the gospel of Jesus Christ, the Son of God.
 

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Yes just like so many christians need scripture to back up there lies. As all the right questions for all the wrong reasons. Its hard to convince am man who believes a lie, even if you showed Him the truth, even Jesus had that problem,.

Mat_1:20 But while he thought on these things, behold, the angel of the Lord appeared unto him in a dream, saying, Joseph, thou son of David, fear not to take unto thee Mary thy wife: for that which is conceived in her is of the Holy Ghost.

conceive
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verb: conceive; 3rd person present: conceives; past tense: conceived; past participle: conceived; gerund or present participle: conceiving
1.
create (an embryo) by fertilizing an egg.
"she was conceived when her father was 49"

The spirit of God fertilizing the Egg of a woman, and so we have the son of man. Like I keep explaining to you, If Jesus is God than you have no salvation, it was only a man that could do what He did, Him alone.

Joh_11:50 Nor consider that it is expedient for us, that one man should die for the people, and that the whole nation perish not.

Rom_5:15 But not as the offence, so also is the free gift. For if through the offence of one many be dead, much more the grace of God, and the gift by grace, which is by one man, Jesus Christ, hath abounded unto many.

And again no honour is given to Christ.

Rom_5:17 For if by one man's offence death reigned by one; much more they which receive abundance of grace and of the gift of righteousness shall reign in life by one, Jesus Christ.)
GINOLJC, to all.
First thanks for the reply, second, are you saying that because someone backup what they are saying by the bible that the BIBLE is not true, or not worthy to rely on? this is just what a heathen would say.

now, your "LIE"/mistake, you said, "The spirit of God fertilizing the Egg of a woman, and so we have the son of man". well, first of several lies/ERRORS.
#1. The Spirit of God who is JESUS, the LORD, the HOLY Spirit, did not fertilize any woman egg. let's get the truth, BY SCRIPTURE, Luke 1:35 "And the angel answered and said unto her, The Holy Ghost shall come upon thee, and the power of the Highest shall overshadow thee: therefore also that holy thing which shall be born of thee shall be called the Son of God". two key words here, a. "overshadow", and b. "Son of God".

the term "overshadow", will destroy all that you posted above, listen, overshadow, it's the Greek word G1982 ἐπισκιάζω episkiazo (ep-ee-skee-ad'-zo) v.
1. to cast a shade upon
2. (by analogy) to envelop in a haze of brilliancy
3. (figuratively) to invest with preternatural influence

Notice definition #3. what do preternatural means? answer, out of the ordinary course of nature; exceptional or abnormal. let us put it in LAYMAN terms for you. meaning not in the natural way of conception between a man and a women. other words NO HUMAN Sperm, or HUMAN egg was used. so that slap your lie/error, right in the face, "that God fertilize Mary egg". are you kidding, you think that God who is Spirit come and Lay with a woman in a sexsual intercourse setting. are you out to lunch, and dinner here? you think God is some kind of stud of the year, (maybe eternity), with his picture on the front of some magazine? get that zeus Greek mythology mess out of your head. think soberly man, think Righteous, Godly. God don't lay with woman, that's fornication, or worest adultery, for Mary was espoused in a MARRIAGE. nonesense.

#2. according to Matthew 1:20 "But while he thought on these things, behold, the angel of the Lord appeared unto him in a dream, saying, Joseph, thou son of David, fear not to take unto thee Mary thy wife: for that which is conceived in her is of the Holy Ghost." it was the Holy Spirit, the Lord JESUS, the LORD, whom is the FATHER, that conceived that child in Mary womb. and get this, if the one who conceive, is they not the "FATHER? :p see how ignorant your statement is. the Father is the Holy Ghost, who is the LORD... JESUS.

#3. you next lie/error, "The spirit of God fertilizing the Egg of a woman, and so we have the son of man." the son of Man didn't come from Mary, nor came out of Mary. let's see where the Son of Man came from. scripture, John 3:31 "He that cometh from above is above all: he that is of the earth is earthly, and speaketh of the earth: he that cometh from heaven is above all.". see, he is not EARTHLY, meaning having NO human biological Parents.... Dhu? the Lord Jesus is not EARTHLY, but Heavenly. one more, John 8:23 "And he said unto them, Ye are from beneath; I am from above: ye are of this world; I am not of this world." my God how many time nust he tell you that? John 3:13 "And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven." are the LIGHT BLUBS coming on now?

#4. now that we know that the Son of man came from Heaven, well what was born, or came out of Mary? answer... Flesh and blood. LISTEN, Luke 1:35 "And the angel answered and said unto her, The Holy Ghost shall come upon thee, and the power of the Highest shall overshadow thee: therefore also that holy thing which shall be born of thee shall be called the Son of God". what was born of Mary is the Son of God, and notice the language to describe the Son of God, "that holy thing", God is not a THING, that THING that was BORN was a BODY for the Son of Man, God to come in, to dwell in. supportive scripture, Matthew 1:23 "Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us." question, how is God with us? answer, in a body of flesh and blood just like, like, like us. why did I say Like three times, listen, Philippians 2:7 "But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men:" BINGO, Likness. notice MADE HIMSELF ... in the LIKENESS of men. and please Notice what the term "MADE" here means.. it tells us this likeness. watch and learn. it's the Greek word, G1096 γίνομαι ginomai (ǰiy'-no-mai) v.
1. to cause to be (“gen”-erate).
2. (reflexively) to become (come into being).

3. (of events) to happen.

notice definition #1. to cause to be (“gen”-erate), what do a woman do for 9 months... :D that's right Generate or carry a baby.
also notice definition #2. to become (come into being). notice not to come into "EXISTENCE"... (smile), but into BEING... like, like, like, in human being. oh my God, how easy it is to understand the word of God, when you have the Holy Ghost as your teacher. see God already is in "EXISTENCE", but he came into human being in this world.... BINGO. again, Philippians 2:7 "But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men:" not from a man, but in "LIKENESS" of men.

so by making himself a body to come in, he came into this world. do we have scripture to this effect? yes, Hebrews 10:5 "Wherefore when he cometh into the world, he saith, Sacrifice and offering thou wouldest not, but a body hast thou prepared me:" BINGO.

so what was born, was a body of flesh and blood a child in the "LIKENESS" of men, and what came or was "GIVEN", answer, "for God so loved the world that he "GAVE" his only begotten son". GAVE? now where have we seen this at before? answer, listen, Isaiah 9:6 "For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace."

there it is in black and white, or unto us a child is born, what was born? the Son of God, scripture, Luke 1:35 "And the angel answered and said unto her, The Holy Ghost shall come upon thee, and the power of the Highest shall overshadow thee: therefore also that holy thing which shall be born of thee shall be called the Son of God".

and who was "GIVEN?", John 3:16 "For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life." who was "GIVEN?", the Son of man who came from Heaven. BINGO.

so mjrhealth, what you said was untrue, better known as a lie. we suggest you re-read this post for, a. clarity. and b. for edification.

take this into consideration, Son of man is God "diversified" in flesh. and the Son of God is the Flesh that he came in that mary birthed.
got it now? if you have any questions, just ask... ok. no harm done.

now the contents of this post can be reproduce, for I have given scripture, and the strong Numbers to these definitions.


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so mjrhealth, what you said was untrue, better known as a lie. we suggest you re-read this post for, a. clarity. and b. for edification.

take this into consideration, Son of man is God "diversified" in flesh. and the Son of God is the Flesh that he came in that mary birthed.
got it now? if you have any questions, just ask... ok. no harm done.

now the contents of this post can be reproduce, for I have given scripture, and the strong Numbers to these definitions.
You still dont get it do you. God never came to this earth, His residence is in Heaven.His word did just as was prophesied and like it says it reurned to Him completing all that it was asked to do_Otherwise you are calling Jesus a liar, because He Himself explicitly seperated Himself from the Father in that He even stated that only the father could honour the son He could not honour Himself, even to the point of saying that only the father knows some thing s that He Himself did not.

Can you see Him on the cross, oh myself myself why have you forsaken myself.
 

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God never came to this earth
another deception, another untruth, Jeremiah 23:23 "Am I a God at hand, saith the LORD, and not a God afar off?"
Jeremiah 23:24 "Can any hide himself in secret places that I shall not see him? saith the LORD. Do not I fill heaven and earth? saith the LORD." Uh O, .... :p YIKES! another lie exposed. now to put it in your face, Isaiah 35:4 "Say to them that are of a fearful heart, Be strong, fear not: behold, your God will come with vengeance, even God with a recompence; he will come and save you." so from your prospective then you're not saved... (smile), for God came into this world as a man and saved us from our sins, well at least the rest of us.... :)

He Himself explicitly seperated Himself from the Father in that He even stated that only the father could honour the son He could not honour Himself, even to the point of saying that only the father knows some thing s that He Himself did not.
Separated himself?, then you have two Gods, and that's polytheism at it's worest. only heathen would believe that.

Can you see Him on the cross, oh myself myself why have you forsaken myself.
(smile)... lol, lol, ... now listen real close... come a little closer.... YES, if he's the "diversity" of himself. when you said, separate himself from, you just put the spiritual noose around your neck. why not try, "SHARED" himself in flesh as a man..... :D
now understand when the Lord Jesus the ordinal Last said unto himself, "My Father, is "MY Spirit", why became I came from the Spirit... BINGO. and when the Spirit say, MY Son, he's saying my Body on Earth. lets make it clear. while in flesh, as the DIVERSITY of himself talking to a man name Nicodemus here on Earth, guess where he was at the same time.... listen, John 3:13 "And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven." did you understand Jeremiah 23:23 & 24? ..... guess not. while on earth in flesh he was in heaven at the same time... Separated himself?......... what for? man oh man, when will they LEARN.

now when you said, that he separated himself, please give book, chapter, and verse where the bible said that at. cain't wait to see that verse.

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PS, to help you out Philippians 2:6-8 ...................:p
 

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God's Word tells us who and what Jesus IS 500 years before Jesus came to earth.

Isaiah 9:6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a ""son"" is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, ""The mighty God"", ""everlasting Father,"" ""The Prince of Peace.""
The One True Almighty God IS Father, Son, and Holy Spirit= the One True Almighty God.
God's Word tells you who Jesus IS!!
John 11:25: Jesus said to her, "

I AM the resurrection and the life.
He who believes in Me, though he may die, he shall live
.

John 8:58

- Then Jesus said to them, Most assuredly, I say to you, before Abraham was, ""I AM""

John 8:24 (NASB)
2
Therefore I said to you that you will die in your sins; for unless you believe that I am

He
, you will die in your sins.”


John 1:1414The Word became flesh
and made his dwelling among us.
Yes!!! Jesus gave up His power and Glory as God to die on a Roman cross in your place!! Can't you even say Thank You!!!!!!!

Yes!!! those that allow
satan
to blind them to Truth cannot understand Truth!!
Philippians 2:6

6 Jesus==Who, being in very nature God,
did not consider equality with God something to be used to his own advantage;
7 rather, he made himself nothing
by taking the very nature of a servant,
being made in human likeness.
8 And being found in appearance as a man,
he humbled himself
by becoming obedient to death
even death on a cross!

I chose to believe God's Word that Jesus is God!!!

To those with even little understanding Jesus is saying to them that He is God!!!==
Jesus *said to him, Have I been so long with you, and
yet
you have not come to know Me, Philip? He who has seen Me has seen the Father; how
can
you say, Show us the Father? John 14:9==========Yes!!! Jesus says He is God!

Who but God can say what Jesus says here??===I am the First and the Last. I am the Living One; I was dead, and behold I am alive for ever and ever! (Rev.1:1718).
Eaven the Pharisees knew Jesus said He was God==For which of these do you stone me? We are not stoning you for any of these, replied the Jews, but for blasphemy, because you, a mere man, claim to be God (John10:30-33).
 
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God's Word tells us who and what Jesus IS 500 years before Jesus came to earth.

Isaiah 9:6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a ""son"" is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, ""The mighty God"", ""everlasting Father,"" ""The Prince of Peace.""
The One True Almighty God IS Father, Son, and Holy Spirit= the One True Almighty God.
God's Word tells you who Jesus IS!!
John 11:25: Jesus said to her, "

I AM the resurrection and the life.
He who believes in Me, though he may die, he shall live
.

John 8:58

- Then Jesus said to them, Most assuredly, I say to you, before Abraham was, ""I AM""

John 8:24 (NASB)
2
Therefore I said to you that you will die in your sins; for unless you believe that I am

He
, you will die in your sins.”


John 1:1414The Word became flesh
and made his dwelling among us.
Yes!!! Jesus gave up His power and Glory as God to die on a Roman cross in your place!! Can't you even say Thank You!!!!!!!

Yes!!! those that allow
satan
to blind them to Truth cannot understand Truth!!
Philippians 2:6

6 Jesus==Who, being in very nature God,
did not consider equality with God something to be used to his own advantage;
7 rather, he made himself nothing
by taking the very nature of a servant,
being made in human likeness.
8 And being found in appearance as a man,
he humbled himself
by becoming obedient to death
even death on a cross!

I chose to believe God's Word that Jesus is God!!!

To those with even little understanding Jesus is saying to them that He is God!!!==
Jesus *said to him, Have I been so long with you, and
yet
you have not come to know Me, Philip? He who has seen Me has seen the Father; how
can
you say, Show us the Father? John 14:9==========Yes!!! Jesus says He is God!

Who but God can say what Jesus says here??===I am the First and the Last. I am the Living One; I was dead, and behold I am alive for ever and ever! (Rev.1:1718).
Eaven the Pharisees knew Jesus said He was God==For which of these do you stone me? We are not stoning you for any of these, replied the Jews, but for blasphemy, because you, a mere man, claim to be God (John10:30-33).
Thanks for the reply, I agree totally. christians at times, just mistakenly don't understand the "diversity", or the First and the Last, or the beginning and the end, or the aleph and the tav, or the alpha and the omega .... of....of.....of.....of ... GOD, who is both LORD all cap, (Spirit), and Lord, (spirit) in flesh. I use to be the same way, not understanding, which lead to not KNOWING, which brought confusion.

when the bible say things, when he spoke, like "my Father", when in reality he's saying my undiversified Spirit in heaven, or when the Father say, from heaven, "my Son", when in fact, he's saying, my "diversified" Body on Earth. when I learned, and UNDERSTOOD this, as the apostle Paul said by the Holy Ghost, ",I put away childish things".

but it takes time for one to come to this knowledge, and when they lean .... not to their "own" understanding, in which they was taught, but in the knowledge of God Holy Word, then the bible become so easy to understand.

be blessed, and keep up the good work.

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The Truth is available, and is in the Bible. the One TRUE GOD is "JESUS" the Holy Spirit, who is ordinal First amd the Ordinal Last. Revelation 1:17 "And when I saw him, I fell at his feet as dead. And he laid his right hand upon me, saying unto me, Fear not; I am the first and the last:"

This is the ONE and only TRUE God.

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The Truth is available, and is in the Bible. the One TRUE GOD is "JESUS" the Holy Spirit, who is ordinal First amd the Ordinal Last. Revelation 1:17 "And when I saw him, I fell at his feet as dead. And he laid his right hand upon me, saying unto me, Fear not; I am the first and the last:"

This is the ONE and only TRUE God.
And the Truth is that you reject Jesus the Son of God and "God the Father".
1 John 4:15 (NKJV)
15 Whoever confesses that Jesus is the Son of God, God abides in him, and he in God.
 

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And the Truth is that you reject Jesus the Son of God and "God the Father".
1 John 4:15 (NKJV)
15 Whoever confesses that Jesus is the Son of God, God abides in him, and he in God.
first thanks for the reply, just stick around and see the LIGHT, the TRUE LIGHT..... :D YIKES!... (smile).

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first thanks for the reply, just stick around and see the LIGHT, the TRUE LIGHT..... :D YIKES!... (smile).
I see only darkness you are spewing. Anyone who says that Jesus isn't the Son of God is a messenger of Satan.

John 20:31 (NKJV)
31 but these are written that you may believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God, and that believing you may have life in His name.