Where does the Bible say...

[Brakelite]

Jesus Christ has all authority Matt 28:18 he established his church thru Peter, the apostles, and their successors with the same mission, power, and authority!
Mt 16:18 Mt 28:19 Acts 1:17 acts 8:31 & 35 Lk 10:16 Jn 8:32 Jn 13:20 Jn 15:5 Jn 16:13 Jn 20:21-22 eph 2:20

Successors of Jesus Christ!

Jesus already prepares His apostles to continue His mission with His power (binding and loosing) and with His authority (keys) matt 16:18 matt 18:18

John 3:5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.

John 3:22 After these things came Jesus and his disciples into the land of Judaea; and there he tarried with them, and baptized.

John 4:1 when therefore the Lord knew how the Pharisees had heard that Jesus made and baptized more disciples than John...
Jn 4:2 Though Jesus himself baptized not, but his disciples

Here we see Jesus delegating to His successors, Peter and the apostles!

The authority of Peter the apostles and their successors is absolute Matt 16:18 18:18
“Whatsoever” that means anything you bind on earth

Mmm. And I've read how the church exercised that authority. So the same Jesus Who was merciful, gracious, loving, patient and filled with loving kindness at all times who you say have your church carte blanche on whatever, went along with the murders, the tortures, the wars and the persecutions, the political machinations to charge Nations into submission to that authority?

mary is the ark of the new covenant
The mother of mercy

Oh please. That is just spiritualist mumbo jumbo.

 

[Brakelite]

Do you really believe that God, in obedience to man, scrubbed out those tables of testimony and altered what He Himself had written with His own finger, just to please the whims and fancies of man-made tradition?

"To what authority do you surrender?" The voice of thunder and the writing of the Almighty in stone, or the voice of a carnal whimsical man who in the words of one of your own, "The 'day of the lord' was chosen, not from any directions noted in scriptures, but from the church's sense of it's own power".

Jesus Christ has all authority Matt 28:18 he established his church thru Peter, the apostles, and their successors with the same mission, power, and authority!

 

[theefaith]

Mmm. And I've read how the church exercised that authority. So the same Jesus Who was merciful, gracious, loving, patient and filled with loving kindness at all times who you say have your church carte blanche on whatever, went along with the murders, the tortures, the wars and the persecutions, the political machinations to charge Nations into submission to that authority?


Oh please. That is just spiritualist mumbo jumbo.

Mary is the ark and the high priest (Jesus Christ) sprinkled the blood of the lamb from the cross on Her signifying redemption!

upon Her was the Glory found as you properly say over the mercy seat

lk 1:35 And the angel answered and said unto her, The Holy Ghost shall come upon thee, and the power of the Highest shall overshadow thee: therefore also that holy thing which shall be born of thee shall be called the Son of God.
(Her son singular who is God)

 

[Brakelite]

Mary is the ark and the high priest (Jesus Christ) sprinkled the blood of the lamb from the cross on Her signifying redemption!

upon Her was the Glory found as you properly say over the mercy seat

lk 1:35 And the angel answered and said unto her, The Holy Ghost shall come upon thee, and the power of the Highest shall overshadow thee: therefore also that holy thing which shall be born of thee shall be called the Son of God.
(Her son singular who is God)

Okay. So I'm slow. Sorry about that. I've just figured you out. You have a screed of wisdom you want to impart to us lesser mortals, and actually addressing the responses you are given is not a part of the agenda. You will ignore what we have to say and just carry on feeding the fish. I see no reason why I should continue biting.

 

[theefaith]

no, but Christ has all authority and he sent his apostles

Jesus Christ continues HIS ministry in His new covenant church thru Peter, the apostles, and their successors with the same mission, power, and authority!
Mt 16:18 Mt 28:19 Acts 1:17 acts 8:31 & 35 Lk 10:16 Jn 8:32 Jn 13:20 Jn 15:5 Jn 16:13 Jn 20:21-22 eph 2:20

Successors of Jesus Christ!

Jesus already prepares His apostles to continue His mission with His power (binding and loosing) and with His authority (keys) matt 16:18 matt 18:18

John 3:5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.

John 3:22 After these things came Jesus and his disciples into the land of Judaea; and there he tarried with them, and baptized.

John 4:1 when therefore the Lord knew how the Pharisees had heard that Jesus made and baptized more disciples than John...
Jn 4:2 Though Jesus himself baptized not, but his disciples

Here we see Jesus delegating to His successors, Peter and the apostles!

 

[theefaith]

Okay. So I'm slow. Sorry about that. I've just figured you out. You have a screed of wisdom you want to impart to us lesser mortals, and actually addressing the responses you are given is not a part of the agenda. You will ignore what we have to say and just carry on feeding the fish. I see no reason why I should continue biting.

Biblical Education and a biblical understanding are my interest here not fishing

 

[Marymog]

Try not to get bogged down. Since you feel that I've taken it out of context, what say I give another text supporting religious liberty (which also does a little damage to apostolic succession validity):

Mark 9
38Now John answered Him, saying, “Teacher, we saw someone who does not follow us casting out demons in Your name, and we forbade him because he does not follow us.”

39But Jesus said, “Do not forbid him, for no one who works a miracle in My name can soon afterward speak evil of Me. 40For he who is not against us is on our side.

Seems to be largely a slippery slope issue. I've heard it on this and other forums. Since you say it doesn't matter if Catholics agree, you probably won't get much out of this:
Pope Francis’s latest encyclical: Abortion not on list of political concerns

Replacement--not succession. Necessary to fulfill prophecy.

No, I don't and that doesn't make me an expert--just observant and opinionated.

No I don't--it was a hypothetical.
I'm not an expert. I'm just a person on a web forum--like you.

Thank you

 

[Marymog]

Again, it's pretty much a law of psychology.

Dear children, let us not love with words or speech but with actions and in truth.

We are from God, and whoever knows God listens to us; but whoever is not from God does not listen to us. This is how we recognize the Spirit of truth and the spirit of falsehood.

Do your best to present yourself to God as one approved, a worker who does not need to be ashamed and who correctly handles the word of truth.

Stand firm then, with the belt of truth buckled around your waist,

God is spirit, and his worshipers must worship in the Spirit and in truth.”

Soooo your theory is that each individual Christian is allowed to have their own truth because the law of psychology trumps the law of God? I wonder if God agrees with you....

 

[theefaith]

Thank you

religious liberty is insanity

 

[theefaith]

Thank you

acts 1:20 For it is written in the book of Psalms, Let his habitation be desolate, and let no man dwell therein: and his bishoprick let another take.

20 For it is written in the book of Psalms, Let his habitation be desolate, and let no man dwell therein: and his office let another take.

what office is this refering to?

 

[BarneyFife]

Dear children, let us not love with words or speech but with actions and in truth.

We are from God, and whoever knows God listens to us; but whoever is not from God does not listen to us. This is how we recognize the Spirit of truth and the spirit of falsehood.

Do your best to present yourself to God as one approved, a worker who does not need to be ashamed and who correctly handles the word of truth.

Stand firm then, with the belt of truth buckled around your waist,

God is spirit, and his worshipers must worship in the Spirit and in truth.”

Soooo your theory is that each individual Christian is allowed to have their own truth because the law of psychology trumps the law of God? I wonder if God agrees with you....

My "theory" is that I didn't design the human mind--God did. People believe what they want to believe. And I can't believe that I'm having to argue for simple reality.

 

[Marymog]

Seems to be largely a slippery slope issue. I've heard it on this and other forums. Since you say it doesn't matter if Catholics agree, you probably won't get much out of this:
Pope Francis’s latest encyclical: Abortion not on list of political concerns
.

B5....That’s it??? That’s your evidence of an internal dispute in The Church over abortion???? One Catholic out of 1billion Catholics in this world writes an article complaining that the Pope left the word abortion out of a non-binding encyclical and that’s your evidence??? Oh goodness. How about if you google “Pope Francis statement on abortion” or search for an encyclical where he talks about abortion.....if you wanted to know the truth you could find it but you choose not to

 

[Marymog]

My "theory" is that I didn't design the human mind--God did. People believe what they want to believe. And I can't believe that I'm having to argue for simple reality.

dear friend... I agree with you that people believe what they want to believe but that does NOT make what they believe truth. It may be THEIR truth but that does not make it THE truth...

 

[BarneyFife]

dear friend... I agree with you that people believe what they want to believe but that does NOT make what they believe truth. It may be THEIR truth but that does not make it THE truth...

Absolutely agreed

 

[Marymog]

acts 1:20 For it is written in the book of Psalms, Let his habitation be desolate, and let no man dwell therein: and his bishoprick let another take.

20 For it is written in the book of Psalms, Let his habitation be desolate, and let no man dwell therein: and his office let another take.

what office is this refering to?

Apostles stopped being commissioned in the first century (the original 12 and Paul were commissioned) so apostolic succession continues with the bishops, the successors of the Apostles. Matthias succeeded the Apostle Judas as a bishop of The Church. Apostolic succession thus involves in the bishops serving as successors to the apostles....not serving as apostles. The bishops are not simply a continuation of the office of apostle.....they received the governance of the Church when that office ended.

Soooo to answer your question it is referring to the office of the bishop.

 

[BarneyFife]

Apostles stopped being commissioned in the first century (the original 12 and Paul were commissioned) so apostolic succession continues with the bishops, the successors of the Apostles. Matthias succeeded the Apostle Judas as a bishop of The Church. Apostolic succession thus involves in the bishops serving as successors to the apostles....not serving as apostles. The bishops are not simply a continuation of the office of apostle.....they received the governance of the Church when that office ended.

Soooo to answer your question it is referring to the office of the bishop.

Unbelievable

 

[theefaith]

Unbelievable

the bishops are the successors to the apostles!

the apostles must remain until the second coming right!

 

[theefaith]

Unbelievable

does this make you an unbeliever?

 

[BarneyFife]

the bishops are the successors to the apostles!

the apostles must remain until the second coming right!

does this make you an unbeliever?

I guess it does. If nonsense can pronounce one an unbeliever.

 

[mjrhealth]

you can’t have a Manner of worship, only the true church does in the holy sacrifice of the mass, the propitiatory sacrifice only offered by ordained priests
With adoration reparation thanksgiving and petition

No you see deceiving the masses.

22 You don't know what you're worshiping. We know what we're worshiping, for salvation comes from the Jews.*x10
23 Yet the hour is coming, and is now here, when true worshipers will worship the Father in spirit*n7and truth. Indeed, the Father is looking for people like that to worship him.*x11
God is spirit, and those who worship him must worship in spirit and truth.” (John 4:24 )