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27-Year-Old Canadian Healthcare Worker Fainted And Suffered Multiple Seizures After Taking The Pfizer COVID-19 Vaccine
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by Bobby Hristova, CBC News (excerpt)

A personal support worker feels the health-care system “failed” her after someone overlooked her allergies, she says, and let her get a COVID-19 vaccine.

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Deborah Tilli, 27, says she accepted the possibility of death while suffering a severe allergic reaction after receiving the COVID-19 vaccine. She says she feared her two daughters, ages seven and four, would be left without a mother. Submitted by Deborah Tilli.

The vaccine triggered a severe reaction which she says caused her to faint, suffer multiple seizures, require CPR and still feel the effects almost a week later.

Tilli says her case is a cautionary tale for those with allergies.


When she initially found out she was getting a vaccine, Tilli says, she was excited.

“I wasn’t scared, I was excited. I was like, ‘I’m going to be one of the first health-care workers in the city to get the vaccine,’” she said.

On Thursday at around 11:15 a.m., she was preparing to get vaccinated. She said she filled out consent forms and waited to be screened.

That’s when Tilli noticed something was off. She said the nurse looking over her file lacked confidence about what they were doing.

“I do have a severe allergy to bumblebees, and the nurse went over that with me and even questioned me about it, but … it seemed like she really didn’t know what she was doing,” Tilli said.

Tilli acknowledges she could have done more homework about the vaccination process ahead of time, and that this may well have been a simple mistake by someone who was also nervous to do the job.


But none of that changes what happened after she got vaccinated.

‘What if I left my two girls without a mother?’

She expected to only wait around for 15 minutes before going home, she says. Instead, Tilli began to feel light-headed. Then, a scratch in her throat.

She dismissed it as nervousness, she says, but the symptoms didn’t go away. Tilli says she approached a paramedic about what she was feeling.

Tilli says the paramedic checked her vitals and noticed her heart rate was high.

She received a Benadryl shot and it seemed to work for a few minutes. But the symptoms returned and worsened, she says.

“The supervisor from the paramedics was there and he just said ‘OK, let’s give her the EpiPen,’” Tilli said.

“Within a minute, I just said, ‘Something doesn’t feel right in my body,’ and I remember just passing out and leaning over to the right.”

Dave Thompson, superintendent of the local paramedic service, confirmed to CBC News that Tilli was taken to hospital in stable condition.

Tilli says when she woke up, she was told she suffered seizures and needed CPR for a brief period.

She doesn’t remember much during the reaction, but says one moment sticks out — accepting the fact that she could die.

“There was a moment where, I don’t want to say I gave up, but I was just like ‘It is what it is.’ … [Days later] when I was in bed the other night, I was thinking, ‘What if I left my two girls without a mother?’” Tilli said.
 

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There have been many more deaths reported in the media, in the medical field, taking this vaccine. How many are going unreported, the lay-people, and not just their deaths, those that also now have permanent damages...especially nerve damage? I did expect this from the beginning. Also, many now have a real alien virus in their bodies, for life, and the vaccine was never meant to give anyone a new strain of a 'virus.'

They have "MADE" bit by bit, it "normal and acceptable", to TRUST, people you do not know to be "Expert", in deciding what you can PUT IN your body, and bit by bit, writing unconstitutional laws Requiring and Forcing, foreign chemical compounds into people's body's.

Reviewing..."the EXPERTS"... what exactly gives a person that "status"?
•Their "college" Degree?
(Not all that impressed.
Already aware, degrees can be "backdoor bought",
"honorary/ and implied as earned",
"Cheating is rampant in all schools".
•A paper they write and is entered into "their" insiders profession?
•Others in their "profession", give them awards?
•They seek and sit on "boards" (with power making Authority) that have nothing to do with their profession?
•The higher they climb...the more they become Separated from the daily workings of "their profession".
•Another you do not know, says they are an "Expert". o_O
•and worthy of mention, anyone who has EVER been in a workplace, with multiple people, likely have observed Upstanding and underhanded workers...
•so ya, I'm not quickly impressed, by what "an Expert spokesman" declares or favored being forced by one, I don't personally know, to accept an others opinion, I don't personally know.

And Agree...those who have had a quick, choice AND enforcement of bodily intrusion, with negative results, SHOULD BE loudly Reported.
And Agree...oops, that foreign compound is in their Body Forever.

And not to overlook...virus's "for" vaccines require a host. The Cells of an intended human to receive the "cultured Virus Vaccine", are cultured in Cells of Aborted fetuses and animals...!!

UGH!
 

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People die all the time Rita... From various causes...

Less people died in Australia in 2020 than previous years
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Less people died in Canada in the first 8 months of 2020...
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Less people died in America up to November...
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And iv seen the same stats for the UK as well... So how can anyone, including you @Rita and @JohnDB, how we possibly be in any epidemic without an increase in deaths??? Let alone a pandemic???

I only ever get belligerent indignation at mentioning these facts, things like, "anti-vaxer, conspiracy theorist and such"... How about addressing the issue... No increase in deaths equals no epidemic or pandemic or any demics... So how can you guys still be saying one plus pone equals...

Is it a case of "if you can't beat em you may as well join em"???? Cos this frame of mind is strong now im noticing...
People have conceded to the fact we've been scammed, their submitting...

Remember logic people??? Try recall it and use it... No xtra deaths means no pandemic and there is no cognitive dissonance excuses about it
Yes people die, my point was about ‘ how ‘ and the speed that this virus impacted. This is my seventh year at the care home, my seventh flu season. I know what normal flu season brings. Since Monday Ten carers are really sick, More than ten residents are now ill. Another resident yesterday, looked fine but within hours she couldn’t breathe and we had to call an ambulance. Won’t know the outcome until I go back in to work tomorrow. I have never seen that in flu season prior to covid. I am not going to get into a debate about numbers because I cannot prove or believe the numbers, my comments were to relay that something different is going around and it’s not normal flu, and this time I am witnessing it first hand. It’s taking hold way to fast and bringing breathing problems rapidly with the elderly in the care home. I know so many people with this right now, and all are saying it’s different to anything they have had before - much worse.
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It’s taking hold way to fast and bringing breathing problems rapidly with the elderly in the care home.
It was clear from the very beginning that the age group which was most at risk was the 75-85 age group. At the same time a very effective treatment was available at a very low cost -- the HCQ combo pack. Yet the unethical public health officials DENIED ACCESS to this simple remedy so that many elderly lives could be saved. And thousands died unnecessarily. That was a criminal conspiracy for which no one was prosecuted.

However, here's the reality about this bogus and expensive vaccine:
Health Care Workers Refusing COVID-19 Vaccine; Hospitals Offering to Pay Staff to Take It
- Earlier this week, Ohio Gov. Mike DeWine said he was "troubled" by the relatively low numbers of nursing home workers who have elected to take the vaccine, with DeWine stating that approximately 60% of nursing home staff declined the shot...

When health care workers are wary of a vaccine, then the general public should avoid it like the plague.
 
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You wouldn't like me very much...

No... Why do u say that?... Don't underestimate...;)

I am one of those you would call a follower... In all truth.... because I live as a hermit...

Does a hermit follow but??? I suppose it depends who your following i guess. I want to follow God, not the evil works of this world...
Im about to go off into the wilderness to live a hermit/nomad kind of life out my my van... Im closer to God out there...
Plus my life and any plan i had for it is finished now. I need to start a new life, elsewhere before becoming captive

covid has not affected me and I don't care what others say or think

Covid has not directly affected anyone that i know... In fact i still don't know one person who knows one person that has had covid...
The devastating effects in my community is due to the lockdowns... Unemployment, homlesnesnes, trauma, anguish, mental and psychological traumas of unimaginable proportions including suicides... Would my cuz still be here if its wasn't for all this overloaded propaganda??? I don't know, i'll never know, all i know is that he was 38 years old and walked off a multistory carpark for reasons that i will be sure of...

We all have our own personal experiences and i think its important identify that...
Im not rejecting anyones testimony, im just giving mine...

I don't care if this is a hoax or not

I do. It hurts seeing everyone consumed by fear, especially if it is fake... Love is meant to drive us, not fear.
It hurts to put decades of love, blood, sweat and tears into this world only for the world to push you off a cliff... It hurts
I hate seeing innocent peoples lifes get washed around buy evil corporates that don't have any connection with God at all

I wouldn't care about it either if everyone i know wasn't devastated by it...

I still follow the laws of the land

Same, if if i don't agree with some, such as imprisoning people for non-criminal offences and many other laws...

I mind my own business and NO ONE... has to power to tell me what to think or believe.

Were talking facts and opinions, not making demands of each other

I don't need to be RIGHT about everything... I live and let live.

Off course... I know im not right about everything. People need to learn to agree to disagree more these days i think

So back to your original statement...

You wouldn't like me very much

Im sorry but im going to have to reject that my friend...;) I have no reason to dislike you at all...:D
 

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27-Year-Old Canadian Healthcare Worker Fainted And Suffered Multiple Seizures After Taking The Pfizer COVID-19 Vaccine
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HAFJanuary 8, 2021

by Bobby Hristova, CBC News (excerpt)

A personal support worker feels the health-care system “failed” her after someone overlooked her allergies...

Healthcare "system"...

It is a Doctor who typically sees a patient, reviews patient history of Meds, allergies, Prior illnesses, surgeries, family diseases, etc.
THEN- decides the Risk of any possible harm to introduce a foreign substance into the body.

This fast tracked Vaccine...gives me pause ...
How the history of a person's med info is collected, by whom, and is that person qualified to determine administering a Vaccine could cause harm.

The article seemed the "patients history" was a voluntary last minute thought of the patient, NOT a medical history the one administering the Vaccine was privy to or had documentation.

The article seemended to indicate a slight hesitation of the one administering Vaccines, when the woman said, she was allergic to bees.
But hummm the Vaccine was administered.

Not at all do I think that is normal medical procedures.
Fast track; Trust THEM; they have white coats
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Ya, so do butchers have white coats!

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However, here's the reality about this bogus and expensive vaccine:
Health Care Workers Refusing COVID-19 Vaccine; Hospitals Offering to Pay Staff to Take It
- Earlier this week, Ohio Gov. Mike DeWine said he was "troubled" by the relatively low numbers of nursing home workers who have elected to take the vaccine, with DeWine stating that approximately 60% of nursing home staff declined the shot...

When health care workers are wary of a vaccine, then the general public should avoid it like the plague.

No kidding!
 

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It was clear from the very beginning that the age group which was most at risk was the 75-85 age group. At the same time a very effective treatment was available at a very low cost -- the HCQ combo pack. Yet the unethical public health officials DENIED ACCESS to this simple remedy so that many elderly lives could be saved. And thousands died unnecessarily. That was a criminal conspiracy for which no one was prosecuted.

However, here's the reality about this bogus and expensive vaccine:
Health Care Workers Refusing COVID-19 Vaccine; Hospitals Offering to Pay Staff to Take It
- Earlier this week, Ohio Gov. Mike DeWine said he was "troubled" by the relatively low numbers of nursing home workers who have elected to take the vaccine, with DeWine stating that approximately 60% of nursing home staff declined the shot...

When health care workers are wary of a vaccine, then the general public should avoid it like the plague.

Man, ive almost given up. People are entrenched in their view now and im disconnecting from the matrix soon anyway
One of my mates said "if u can't beat them join them"... Just think about that for a minute "if u can't beat them join them"...
The mentality required to reach that position... Defeated, conceded, submitted... And most of all pride... People are much to proud to admit they were wrong...

Like APAKs signature says "its easier to fool someone than to convince them they are being fooled"
 
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Yesterday... I allowed myself to get angry....and it was reflected in my writing... I apologize for that.... Because I live alone... and these forums are my only glimpse of what is happening in real time in the outside world... it is easy to get overwhelmed and caught up with those who don't view politeness and respect as important... It's my pet peeve... and I don't think it will change any time soon... If someone cannot communicate with respect.... I'm sorry... but I'm not interested in listening to anything they have to say. Thus I seem to be collecting a number of people on IGNORE... which is NOT ideal... but for now... it is how I am coping.

I am not suggesting that how I live is superior.... I was accused yesterday by someone of flaunting my life style... and the fact that the world does NOT affect me... I did not take kindly to that...When someone is brave enough to share personal information on this site... it should NOT be used against them as a weapon. These forums take awhile to get used to... Just when I think I am getting the hang of things and comfortable... BANG... something happens and I have to re-align myself with calmness.

My lifestyle is by choice... but due to being ill... therefore I am not glorifying being a recluse nor am I suggesting it is the ideal way to live. I am one who is very aware of my shortcomings... and I don't have a problem admitting them. My biggest problem on these forums is that I don't TRUST anyone...therefore if someone tells me something... it doesn't usually sway my own opinions... and if they get in my face aggressively... I shut down and stop listening to them altogether.... and honestly....that seems to be a problem on these threads.
Many people seem to think that just because they believe something... it makes them right and the other person wrong... uninformed... misguided.
I don't know that I will ever get used to how many people talk AT one another...

The fact that I live a sheltered life does not mean I don't have a clue what is going on in the world. I absolutely agree that these lockdowns are harsh and horrific on the state of the economy. My entire province is under lock down at the moment.... I am BLESSED because truly I have been SAVED from any financial trauma... due to the fact that I am not working. I am aware that many... MANY are suffering... financially.... emotionally and spiritually. All I can do is pray... and ask Father to help all those who are struggling and hurting... and I physically try to encourage those who live within my little bubble in a real and tangible way.

What I call conspiracy theories are those who would suggest the mobs are out to get us... and they are on a mission to EDUCATE the world... This is so annoying to me... but it seems to have overtaken society. As Christians... we are told that this life is TEMPORARY... and that NO ONE knows the hour or the day. People have been predicting the end of times since Jesus death on the cross. It seems to me... that rather than screaming at each other about FACTS and FIGURES... we should be spending our time getting our OWN houses in order.

God reveals Himself to each of His children in a different way... and each of us have different giftings... My strength is that I have the time to reflect... and pray.

Staying on these forums seems to be a daily battle for me... I will continue to be MYSELF and share my thoughts openly and honestly.
 
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I'm excited at the prospect of getting back to work and having dinner parties with friends.
I'm not sure about the work thing...

Just as the quarantines started the arthritis in my knee was getting bad. I can walk fine but I'm really slow on stairs and ladders...as a construction Electrician that ain't good.

So I'm kinda curious if I can hack it anymore or not. My ankle (on the other leg) was already giving me trouble. So we shall see.
I think that I can hang in there for a few months at a time before getting canned.
(I get fired a lot but they always smile when I show up)

I still have trained everyone...so I probably won't get different treatment.

Hahaha u get fired a lot... No wonder... :p... Ah i can't laugh im the same, outspoken...

Is retirement near for u and your wife? Have u given it much thought?

Its funny how some people can retire by putting their feet up and relaxing while others need something to do to keep them ticking...
My mum and dad are like that. They're 70 and 75. Especially my dad, still doing stuff that is too dangerous for my liking.

Climbing the olive tree, cleaning the gutters on the extra high roof. Its too much i think for the 75yo but he loves it...
His got his garage and shed, services and maintains the house, car and the rest. His up at 7am daily. Im not sure he can relax... He still loves to learn stuff, technical stuff. Smartphone is his latest hobby, lol, he loves it

They were going away on holiday a lot which was great.
We were planning on going away this year, all of us, back to their motherland which just happens to be a beautiful holiday island... Not to be...

I guess all im trying to say is relax, put your feet up, enjoy your family and hobbies, if you can...:D
Cos we work too much in this world i reckon, not enough fun, u know, go reef fishing, tour the continent, tour the globe...
 

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Yesterday... I allowed myself to get angry....and it was reflected in my writing... I apologize for that.... Because I live alone... and these forums are my only glimpse of what is happening in real time in the outside world... it is easy to get overwhelmed and caught up with those who don't view politeness and respect as important... It's my pet peeve... and I don't think it will change any time soon... If someone cannot communicate with respect.... I'm sorry... but I'm not interested in listening to anything they have to say. Thus I seem to be collecting a number of people on IGNORE... which is NOT ideal... but for now... it is how I am coping.

I am not suggesting that how I live is superior.... I was accused yesterday by someone of flaunting my life style... and the fact that the world does NOT affect me... I did not take kindly to that...When someone is brave enough to share personal information on this site... it should NOT be used against them as a weapon. These forums take awhile to get used to... Just when I think I am getting the hang of things and comfortable... BANG... something happens and I have to re-align myself with calmness.

My lifestyle is by choice... but due to being ill... therefore I am not glorifying being a recluse nor am I suggesting it is the ideal way to live. I am one who is very aware of my shortcomings... and I don't have a problem admitting them. My biggest problem on these forums is that I don't TRUST anyone...therefore if someone tells me something... it doesn't usually sway my own opinions... and if they get in my face aggressively... I shut down and stop listening to them altogether.... and honestly....that seems to be a problem on these threads.
Many people seem to think that just because they believe something... it makes them right and the other person wrong... uninformed... misguided.
I don't know that I will ever get used to how many people talk AT one another...

The fact that I live a sheltered life does not mean I don't have a clue what is going on in the world. I absolutely agree that these lockdowns are harsh and horrific on the state of the economy. My entire province is under lock down at the moment.... I am BLESSED because truly I have been SAVED from any financial trauma... due to the fact that I am not working. I am aware that many... MANY are suffering... financially.... emotionally and spiritually. All I can do is pray... and ask Father to help all those who are struggling and hurting... and I physically try to encourage those who live within my little bubble in a real and tangible way.

What I call conspiracy theories are those who would suggest the mobs are out to get us... and they are on a mission to EDUCATE the world... This is so annoying to me... but it seems to have overtaken society. As Christians... we are told that this life is TEMPORARY... and that NO ONE knows the hour or the day. People have been predicting the end of times since Jesus death on the cross. It seems to me... that rather than screaming at each other about FACTS and FIGURES... we should be spending our time getting our OWN houses in order.

God reveals Himself to each of His children in a different way... and each of us have different giftings... My strength is that I have the time to reflect... and pray.

Staying on these forums seems to be a daily battle for me... I will continue to be MYSELF and share my thoughts openly and honestly.

Your alright man... Its all good... The nature of forums means that people are 25% more rude than in real life and we get sucked into it...
Im a much better communicator in person as well, a lot gets lost in words on a screen... I think there can be an element of addiction on these forums that can be spiritually unhealthy as well, too much isn't good for me... Also, you can't take everyone too seriously. I know some guys on here better than others and trust what they say is genuine...

Best way to communicate is to learn about each other. I am interested in what u meant about being a hermit... Ur Canadian, right
Are you married, kids? Im not and don't... What about your parents??? Mine are still here but im scared of how i will react when its their time as i will have no one to love anymore and no one that loves me... Im a little bit afraid of the future cos i know i will be growing old alone...

So... As a self proclaimed hermit, can u please pass on some wisdom to a future hermit. It would be greatly appreciated
 
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Best way to communicate is to learn about each other. I am interested in what u meant about being a hermit... Ur Canadian, right
Are you married, kids? Im not and don't... What about your parents??? Mine are still here but im scared of how i will react when its their time as i will have no one to love anymore and no one that loves me... Im a little bit afraid of the future cos i know i will be growing old alone...

So... As a self proclaimed hermit, can u please pass on some wisdom to a future hermit. It would be greatly appreciated

I am Canadian... I live in a small town... by myself... I have one daughter who lives about 7 hours away from me in a big city.
Both my parents are deceased... My father hung himself 29 years ago... and my mother passed away in 2007. When that LAST parent goes... you get hit with what I call the "orphan" phenomenon.... ( you really feel your fragility and the reality that you are alone )... being single makes it that much more real. I am BLESSED because I know that my daughter loves me... and I have ONE best friend who lives in the same city as my daughter.... I have a niece here... in the town where I am living and she does pick me up about once every ten days for groceries and errands... so in the true sense of being a hermit... I do NOT live in the woods....and I don't have a long beard... LOL

I choose to live a simple life... and because I suffer with severe depression... I further choose to live without much social contact... I like it that way... I do not belong to a church here... but I did when I lived in a larger city. The choice where I live now is NOT great and I am spoiled with regards to having tasted what a wonderful church really is... filled with Worship and good solid bible truth. I have not found there to be similar choice here... and I refuse to compromise.

This covid thing ( whatever it is )... and I am not denying there is an agenda for control and suppression within the government... I am fully AWARE of the evil forces in the back ground...they have been there for a great many years... This is why I don't vote... I never have and I never will.... ALL government is corrupt in my opinion.... I absolutely understand those who do vote.. and of course... one must vote according to their conscience... and for Christians that would mean voting conservative.

I do NOT agree that America has suddenly been over taken by evil and defeated.... I believe America has been slowly falling into a bad state for decades... and the reason that it SEEMS to be so TERRIBLE at this time is that the Evangelical Christians decided to mix religion with politics... and they made that public 4 years ago. The result has been what we are seeing today. However... I am not American... so I have learned for the most part to keep my opinions to myself. LOL

As far as advice for being a hermit... the key is simplicity... I choose to live without television... and I don't even have a phone... The only electronic gadget I own is this humble little Chrome Book.... It is my only communication source with the outside world. I have never owned a credit card... and I don't owe any money to anyone... I have nothing for material riches but EVERYTHING I need. I am not suggesting for one moment that all people should live this way... I am simply expressing that it works for me... I guess you could say I am a minimalist... but the issue is probably more that I like things organized so I don't have much space for STUFF in my tiny bachelor apartment.

The fact that I don't work has allowed me to ESCAPE the effects of this virus... and because I don't go out often... even the lock down has not affected me... I am not promoting this at all... It is simply my own reality.... However... what has occurred to me throughout this pandemic has been an overflowing of GRATITUDE. I have so MUCH.... and I am SO grateful.

I think what we are experiencing at this time is a SQUEEZE... of our comforts... "entitlements" and most probably a future of coming sufferings... but this is NOT a sudden thing... The pandemic has brought everything to a head quickly... however... the problems in how we live in this society... have been slow and long burning.

Not sure what else I can add to this. You seem to have the right idea... The simpler one lives... the less they are able to do without... and I think that is what is scary right now... our comfortable lives have been challenged and disturbed. I see this as an opportunity to re-evaluate and get back to the basics. ~ Most tenderly... Addy
 
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See there you go again using such attractive language... Recluse... Part of me can't wait and is looking forward. Part of me is afraid.
It's an adventure... it allows you to face all your insecurities and fears head on... and it challenges you to approach Christ with total vulnerability.
You have to be ok with being you... and if you take Christ with you... WOW... the things HE is able to reveal are AMAZING...
 

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We are expecting a rough extra hundred thousand deaths by the end of the day.

Most people got flu shots and are masked or quarantined in some fashion...so flu season is down this year. Coronavirus is taking its place. Less road traffic has cut down on deaths too.

Hahahaha not buying it mate... Have u got a line in the sand??? I don't think you do... I don't think u have an objective measure of truth...

What would make u admit that we've all been fleeced??? Not the stripping of our rights, not the stripping of our religious freedom, not the enforcement of vaccines, not the dodgy reporting of deaths, not the silencing and censoring of experts, not the suppression of medication, not the indifference in deaths, not the misreporting. Nothing. There is just some excuse for each step back you've taken

Your seeing more covid stuff than most of us which makes your opinion much more subjective...
Still zero people i know personally who don't know anyone with covid... Im not downplaying your testimony, im just giving mine...
The whole of Brisbane is locked down because of one case, even though the WHO has discredited these PCR tests...
Everyone i know has bee damaged by the overreaction... U should be more objective

I drew a line in the sand early... Nothing takes my right to worship God... NOTHING... That got violated immediately
If the world doesn't go back to normal then we've been fleeced... Prophecy fullfilled...
If the vax gets forced than we've been fleeced... Prophecy not yet fullfilled but looking like it
I never accept cancel culture, not in politics and certainly not in science... It has been a feature of this epidemic...
All these measures of truth help me discern what is happening, not just my subjective experiences...

Im not trying to pick on you, im asking genuine questions which were asked of me early on and made me think...
Where do u draw the line???
What objective parameters are u using, if any???
Will u just keep making excuses for every immoral thing they do, for each freedom they take away???
What will u support, the incarceration of the unvaxed????
How about the extermination of the unvaxxed??? Will u accept them taking property from me???
Take property from you???
Will u accept gulags for the unmasked???
When would u say enough is enough???
Would you even admit error or just keep swinging???
What are you actually arguing for or against now???
 

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Hahahaha not buying it mate... Have u got a line in the sand???

Your question was not directed to me ... but I was informed everything is free game on an open forum... LOL

You have asked some really important and relevant questions... and I think that is the crux of the matter.... AS a Christian... what is our line in the sand?

I will not take a vaccine for covid... truthfully... I do not trust what they have come up with... the time was too short and the testing was basically non existent... Does that make me an anti-vaxxer?? NOPE... it does not... but I don't even take the flu shot... so I am not going to take this covid shot... Where I draw the line is... IF I am told that I MUST take this vaccine... I will not... and am prepared for everything that this might entail.

I personally cannot see the day where I will NOT be allowed to go into a grocery store... but if that day comes... then so be it... I will learn how to shop on line or whatever else I have to do... If it comes to the point where I am unable to buy food... I will face that when it comes... I do not live in FEAR.

The government will not ever control how I feel about social issues... Here in Canada... we have laws against what they are calling HATE SPEECH... there are laws in which I MUST address someone according to their personal pronoun.... I REFUSE to do this if it is not male or female... I will never ever address someone as outside of being male or female... nor will I ever agree that the homosexual life style is acceptable... and I will NEVER defend abortion even though my government does. Luckily... I am not in a position of having to defend my beliefs because I do not own and/or operate a business... however... I have STILL drawn my line in the sand.

I will refuse to travel.. I will refuse to give my business to... and I will accept that I am REFUSED service if ever comes the time.

So... if this makes me a door mat... I am ok with that... I don't feel the need to go ROARING that this entire thing is a hoax ( and I am NOT saying that YOU are doing this. )... There is more than one way to skin a cat. I am firm in my beliefs... and I know how I will protect those beliefs. This is all I can do.
 

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Hahaha u get fired a lot... No wonder... :p... Ah i can't laugh im the same, outspoken...

Is retirement near for u and your wife? Have u given it much thought?

Its funny how some people can retire by putting their feet up and relaxing while others need something to do to keep them ticking...
My mum and dad are like that. They're 70 and 75. Especially my dad, still doing stuff that is too dangerous for my liking.

Climbing the olive tree, cleaning the gutters on the extra high roof. Its too much i think for the 75yo but he loves it...
His got his garage and shed, services and maintains the house, car and the rest. His up at 7am daily. Im not sure he can relax... He still loves to learn stuff, technical stuff. Smartphone is his latest hobby, lol, he loves it

They were going away on holiday a lot which was great.
We were planning on going away this year, all of us, back to their motherland which just happens to be a beautiful holiday island... Not to be...

I guess all im trying to say is relax, put your feet up, enjoy your family and hobbies, if you can...:D
Cos we work too much in this world i reckon, not enough fun, u know, go reef fishing, tour the continent, tour the globe...

Retirement? Ha!
Maybe stop working for others for a living. But actually stop and retire ? Not in the cards. I run a non-profit...I want to buy a farm so I can grow fruit for jams and jellies and raise hogs for sausages, bacon, and hams and out of that kitchen also make cookies and gingerbread and truffles...
Super high end stuff unavailable in the marketplace. (Just ignore that distillery out back filled with fruit that didn't make the jam...that ain't for sale)

Probably won't get rich off of that stuff but it will keep me occupied. I've cooked in some of America's finest restaurants and hotels with some of the world's finest chefs. (No, I don't know Gordon but if I needed to I can contact him)

I'm used to eating better at my own dinner table (that I made) with food I've made than I ever did eating out. Usually for a LOT less money. But there is a market for the foods I can produce. Anybody who has shared a meal with me of my own making is irrevocably changed... nothing satisfies anymore except for what I produce. So I'm ensured repeat business.
Once you taste it...there's no going back. My wife complains regularly about it.

And this grumpy old guy is the only one that can make it...HA!

Wifey is a lot younger than me...her career is taking off. She is highly skilled in her area of expertise in the research community. You won't ever hear her name but she can make that famous research scientist the "go to" person for their research field...she has done so before. Publish or perish is the research scientist mantra...for a reason. If you publish well... regardless of the significance of your research you can rise up in the community.
When I say we know these people...I mean my wife (and sometimes I can) can email or call their office and see them. We have shared meals together...these aren't monstrous people. They are professionals in a pool of sharks. And we know who the sharks are. There's ways to deal with the sharks that go way beyond what I can relate on a forum.
The medical research done for this pandemic is necessary. It's a real pandemic and you should be grateful that OZ hasn't been hurt like so many others have.

If you study history at all...look at WWII and Japan's atrocities...the main reason that Australia didn't see any of those things was because America and others were using your country as a staging area (despite all the claims about midway and others)
And that staging was a good thing...it saved your country. But to now claim that Japan never was a threat or that they were harmless... really disingenuous.
Same thing with this virus. You are currently safe...so are your family and friends. Stay that way till you can get vaxed.
This virus re-writes your DNA in ways that aren't really understood yet. The Vaccine doesn't rewrite your DNA...it's just a message to your immune system to stop the virus.

There is a high likelihood that subsequent generations of Covid infected people are not going to be well. Just like Zitka virus does a number on people. Like I said...we don't know and you don't want to find out personally. Coronavirus is an endocrine system virus...that includes reproductive system.
 

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27-Year-Old Canadian Healthcare Worker Fainted And Suffered Multiple Seizures After Taking The Pfizer COVID-19 Vaccine
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by Bobby Hristova, CBC News (excerpt)

A personal support worker feels the health-care system “failed” her after someone overlooked her allergies, she says, and let her get a COVID-19 vaccine.

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Deborah Tilli, 27, says she accepted the possibility of death while suffering a severe allergic reaction after receiving the COVID-19 vaccine. She says she feared her two daughters, ages seven and four, would be left without a mother. Submitted by Deborah Tilli.

The vaccine triggered a severe reaction which she says caused her to faint, suffer multiple seizures, require CPR and still feel the effects almost a week later.

Tilli says her case is a cautionary tale for those with allergies.


When she initially found out she was getting a vaccine, Tilli says, she was excited.

“I wasn’t scared, I was excited. I was like, ‘I’m going to be one of the first health-care workers in the city to get the vaccine,’” she said.

On Thursday at around 11:15 a.m., she was preparing to get vaccinated. She said she filled out consent forms and waited to be screened.

That’s when Tilli noticed something was off. She said the nurse looking over her file lacked confidence about what they were doing.

“I do have a severe allergy to bumblebees, and the nurse went over that with me and even questioned me about it, but … it seemed like she really didn’t know what she was doing,” Tilli said.

Tilli acknowledges she could have done more homework about the vaccination process ahead of time, and that this may well have been a simple mistake by someone who was also nervous to do the job.


But none of that changes what happened after she got vaccinated.

‘What if I left my two girls without a mother?’

She expected to only wait around for 15 minutes before going home, she says. Instead, Tilli began to feel light-headed. Then, a scratch in her throat.

She dismissed it as nervousness, she says, but the symptoms didn’t go away. Tilli says she approached a paramedic about what she was feeling.

Tilli says the paramedic checked her vitals and noticed her heart rate was high.

She received a Benadryl shot and it seemed to work for a few minutes. But the symptoms returned and worsened, she says.

“The supervisor from the paramedics was there and he just said ‘OK, let’s give her the EpiPen,’” Tilli said.

“Within a minute, I just said, ‘Something doesn’t feel right in my body,’ and I remember just passing out and leaning over to the right.”

Dave Thompson, superintendent of the local paramedic service, confirmed to CBC News that Tilli was taken to hospital in stable condition.

Tilli says when she woke up, she was told she suffered seizures and needed CPR for a brief period.

She doesn’t remember much during the reaction, but says one moment sticks out — accepting the fact that she could die.

“There was a moment where, I don’t want to say I gave up, but I was just like ‘It is what it is.’ … [Days later] when I was in bed the other night, I was thinking, ‘What if I left my two girls without a mother?’” Tilli said.

Hey @APAK what happened to that other blue eyed nurse, Tiffany Dover. U would of seen... Still missing? Or a false flag phsyop?
 
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Yes people die, my point was about ‘ how ‘ and the speed that this virus impacted. This is my seventh year at the care home, my seventh flu season. I know what normal flu season brings. Since Monday Ten carers are really sick, More than ten residents are now ill. Another resident yesterday, looked fine but within hours she couldn’t breathe and we had to call an ambulance. Won’t know the outcome until I go back in to work tomorrow. I have never seen that in flu season prior to covid. I am not going to get into a debate about numbers because I cannot prove or believe the numbers, my comments were to relay that something different is going around and it’s not normal flu, and this time I am witnessing it first hand. It’s taking hold way to fast and bringing breathing problems rapidly with the elderly in the care home. I know so many people with this right now, and all are saying it’s different to anything they have had before - much worse.
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Fair enough. Your basically saying that COVID is real and stronger than the flu. Im not arguing against that.

I was talking more about the numbers and why it's not reflected in that data... If we were in a pandemic than logic would follow that we would see more overall deaths. The fact is we don't see that... That's the point I was making...

And all my arguments ultimately support my strongest conviction here...

That I should never be forced to take an experimental vaccine or anything... My body my choice... That's always been my number one concern...
 

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You have asked some really important and relevant questions... and I think that is the crux of the matter.... AS a Christian... what is our line in the sand?

I will not take a vaccine for covid... truthfully... I do not trust what they have come up with... the time was too short and the testing was basically non existent... Does that make me an anti-vaxxer?? NOPE... it does not... but I don't even take the flu shot... so I am not going to take this covid shot... Where I draw the line is... IF I am told that I MUST take this vaccine... I will not... and am prepared for everything that this might entail.

My thoughts exactly...

Is it Satan at play... Look, i don't know for sure... It's certainly very strange what's happened and I see a lot of nefarious stuff happening... Like u I don't trust what they've come up with. My skepticism is probably deeper as I don't trust their motives or intentions either...

But enough about all that...
I really enjoyed reading about yourself and appreciate you opening up... I would say your even at a higher level than recluse or hermit. Your a monk. I say that with respect as a compliment... A Christian monk grand master... LoL... That's what I want to do as well... I want to disconnect from society while still engaging with people. Be more self reliant...

I was the prodigal son for 20 years living in sin I dealt drugs and blew cash on material things. Then I stopped and started to train myself to be less materialistic, more resourceful... I hit rock bottom... My ex left me and I had a suicide plan... I had been led to a dark place deep behind enemy line's and I had found Satan... That's when I realised if Satan is real then I need to find God...

I remember promising that I would reject Satan in my confirmation. They only ask a hand full of questions... The first one is "do u reject Satan and all his evil ways?" First question. Not do believe in God. Do u reject Satan... Thats profound when i think aboit it... In a few wsys...

So that stuck, once I was able to discern Satan I immediately went in search for God. And off course he had been there all along but I was blind... He shone the light on my path as I tuned in more to the Holy Spirit... Then there was my time in jail which I won't get into except for saying praise be to the Lord...

That orphan phenomenon is what I feel is coming...
I've got over a similar phenomenon which is accepting that I won't ever have a partner or kids... So looking ahead i can see that coming and am trying to ready myself for it.

I'll always have friends but that love from a partner, parent or child will never be there. Coming to terms with that requires some level one zen status I reckon... LoL

So ye... IV turned a van into a camper and I'm hitting the road in 2 or 3 weeks... It's no spur of the moment desiscion uv been thinking for this since b4 covid and preparing for it since. Just need my license back...

IV lived in the city my whole life and I'm over it... Much rather be out there among Gods flora and fauna...

I'll try become the monk among the koalas and kangaroos and birds... I love birds... IV let go of almost everything I fear to loose apart from my parents I think...

Thanks again for your words of wisdom grand master I may seek your council in the future...

PS... And u said I wouldn't like u... :p ... I try not to hate anyone... And someone has to really annoy me to dislike them...:D
 
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