The New Covenant

  • Welcome to Christian Forums, a Christian Forum that recognizes that all Christians are a work in progress.

    You will need to register to be able to join in fellowship with Christians all over the world.

    We hope to see you as a part of our community soon and God Bless!

Billy Evmur

Active Member
Dec 30, 2020
338
146
43
72
London
facebook.com
Faith
Christian
Country
United Kingdom
Blessings to you and be sure you keep you beliefs about what the Lord has planned for His faithful people, to what the Bible says.

The holy Land God watches over; Deuteronomy 11:11-12, all the area from the Nile to the Euphrates. Genesis 15:18
After the Lord's terrible Day of fiery wrath has cleared and cleansed it, Deuteronomy 32:34-43, Zephaniah 1:1-18, we Christians will migrate to and live there. Ezekiel 34:11-16, Isaiah 35:1-10, Romans 9:24-26, +

Even the wicked ungodly have a conscience.
No; none of the tenets of Hebrews 8:10-12 have been fully implemented. The New Covenant will not be made with individuals, it is a corporate agreement between Jesus and His people.

Jesus has fulfilled His part of the NC. He awaits the time when we can fulfil ours, as a nation; just as it was for ancient Israel.

What the Jews are promised is judgment/punishment and their virtual demise. Isaiah 6:11-13, Jeremiah 10:18, Jeremiah 12:14,+

Going to heaven for anyone, other than the 2 Witnesses, Enoch and Elijah, is never stated in the Bible. The 'rapture to heaven' of the Church is a Satanic lie.

'you will follow Me later', is a Billy addition to scripture. Nowhere in John 8 or anywhere else, is that said.
Humans never leave the earth. Eventually God come to us and dwells with mankind forever. Revelation 21:1-7
John.13.36.
Simon Peter said to Him "Lord where are You going?" Jesus answered "where you are going you cannot follow Me now but you shall follow afterward"

John. 14.
"In My Father's house are many mansions, if it were not so would I have told you that I go to prepare a place for you?. I will come again and take you to Myself that where I am you may be also ..."

You can't cherry pick scriptures and pass over others. You can't quote Isaiah and the prophets which show the fall of Israel and pass over the ones which which show their future restoration and greatness.
 

Keraz

Well-Known Member
Jun 20, 2018
5,128
925
113
82
Thames, New Zealand
www.logostelos.info
Faith
Christian
Country
New Zealand
You can't quote Isaiah and the prophets which show the fall of Israel and pass over the ones which which show their future restoration and greatness.
Which Israel do you mean?
The fake Israel currently occupying a small part of the holy Land? Or the real Israelites of God, the Overcomers for Him, people from every race, nation and language? 1 Peter 2:9-10, Revelation 5:9-10
 

Keraz

Well-Known Member
Jun 20, 2018
5,128
925
113
82
Thames, New Zealand
www.logostelos.info
Faith
Christian
Country
New Zealand
Isaiah 10:17-27 The Light of Israel [the Lord] will become a fire, its Holy One a flame which in one Day will burn up and consume His thorns and briars. The splendour of his forests and fields it will completely destroy, as suddenly as someone falling in a fit. Only a very few trees [righteous Jews] will be left. Jeremiah 12:14

On that Day the remnant of Israel, the survivors of Jacob will rely no more on foreign help, but without wavering, will truly rely on the Lord: the Holy One of Israel. A remnant of Jacob will return, to their Mighty God.

Israel, your people may be as many as the sands of the sea, but only a remnant will return. Destruction has been decreed, overwhelming and righteous. The Lord will carry out the destruction upon the whole Land.

Therefore, says the Lord, My people, dwellers in Zion, do not be afraid of foreigners, though they oppressed you. Very soon My anger against you will end and My wrath will be directed at them, as I have done in times past.

On that Day, the burden they laid on you will be removed and your yoke broken.


In one Day, the Lord will destroy His enemies by a CME sunstrike. This will be the Lord’s Day of vengeance and the Sixth Seal of Revelation. The Land of Greater Israel will be cleared and burned over. Ezekiel 20:47-48, Zephaniah 1:14-18, Jeremiah 4:26-28 Jer 10:18 On that Day, His righteous people will trust completely in the Lord. They will settle into a regenerated and prosperous Land, as described in Ezekiel 36, Isaiah 35 ++

Ezekiel 34:11-31 For the Lord says: “Now I will take thought for My sheep [every true Christian, Rev 5:9-10] and search for them”. As a shepherd gathers his flock when they are lost, so I shall rescue them from all the places that they were scattered in a Day of cloud and darkness. I shall lead them out from the nations and gather them from all the places where they were scattered and bring them home to their own country.”

The pasture for My people is the Land of Israel. They will thrive and find rest there. I shall search for the lost, bandage the injured, strengthen the sick and give My flock the proper food.

Now, I shall judge between the fat sheep and the lean. You rams and goats, [bad leaders] have taken the best pastures and muddied the drinking water. Therefore I will save My flock and they will be ravaged no more. Zephaniah 3:1-8

I shall set over them My servant David he will care for them and will be their God. I shall make a covenant with them to ensure peace and prosperity. The Land will bear great crops of fruit and produce. When I rescue them from the power of their enemies, then they will know that I am the Lord.

Then they will know that I am with them and they are My people. You are My flock, that I feed and I am your God. John 10:1-27, Isaiah 62:1-5, Hosea 3:1-5


His Christian people found and rescued from wherever they are after the ‘Day of cloud and darkness” - another description of the Lord’s Day of vengeance. They are brought home to their heritage, the holy Land. Ephesians 1:11, Acts 3:25 All of His people, no matter what their health or age, will thrive and find rest. But first, they will be judged and those priests and leaders who have led their flock astray will not enter the Land. Jeremiah 14:14-16

When His faithful Christian people are rescued – then they will know that; “I am with them and you are My people”. Not yet as a visible Presence, until the Return of Jesus. Jeremiah 14:11-16, Ezekiel 20:34-38


Jeremiah 33:6-9 & 14-16 Now, I shall bring healing and care for Judah and Israel and let them see lasting peace and security. I will restore their fortunes and rebuild them as they once were. I shall cleanse them of all wickedness and sin that they have committed and forgive all the evil deeds of rebellion against Me.

This city will bring Me renown and praise, when the nations hear of the good things that I bestow on her. They will be in awe and trembling at this.

The days are coming, says the Lord, when I shall bestow on Judah and Israel all the blessings I have promised them. In those days and at that time, I shall make a righteous branch spring from David’s line; he will maintain law and justice in the Land. In those days Judah will be saved and Jerusalem will be undisturbed. This is the name it will be called: The Lord our Righteousness.

Judah and Israel: the Jewish people and the House of Israel; now the Christian peoples, all the true Israelites of God. Galatians 6:14-16

All the Lord’s true followers are healed, cleansed, forgiven and will live in peace and security., under the New Covenant He will make with them.

Jerusalem will become a city that will be admired and envied worldwide.

The Lord says: “I will keep My promises to Israel and Judah. A leader from David’s line will appear”. Jeremiah 30:21, Hosea 1:11 Eventually it will be Jesus as King.


Hosea 6:1-3 Come, let us return to the Lord. He has wounded us, but He will heal us. After two days, He will revive us, on the third day He will raise us to live in His presence. Let us strive to know the Lord, whose coming is as sure as the sunrise. He will come to us like the spring rains that water the earth.

His people have been punished, but the Lord will ‘bind up their wounds’, on the Day He sends His fiery wrath. Isaiah 30:26 Just before the end of the two days [two thousand years since Jesus’ Advent] there will be revival, His people will come back into the Land, and then on the third day they will live in His presence. That is: during the Millennium, after the Lord Jesus returns in His glory. Luke 13:32.


1 Corinthians 2:7-9 I speak God’s hidden wisdom, His secret purpose framed from the very beginning to bring us to our destined glory. None of the powers that rule the world know that wisdom. Scripture tells us of things beyond our seeing, beyond our hearing, beyond our imagining – all prepared by God for those who love Him.
Reference: REB, NIV, KJV. Some verses abridged.
 

theefaith

Well-Known Member
Aug 25, 2020
20,070
1,354
113
63
Dallas
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
Which Israel do you mean?
The fake Israel currently occupying a small part of the holy Land? Or the real Israelites of God, the Overcomers for Him, people from every race, nation and language? 1 Peter 2:9-10, Revelation 5:9-10

some say the real children of Israel are the African people?
 

Keraz

Well-Known Member
Jun 20, 2018
5,128
925
113
82
Thames, New Zealand
www.logostelos.info
Faith
Christian
Country
New Zealand
some say the real children of Israel are the African people?
There are many wannabees claiming to be the lost tribes of Israel. They do it to get out of their 3rd world situation.
But Jesus clearly stated that He came to save the lost sheep of the House of Israel. Matthew 15:24
So unless you think Jesus failed in His mission, the Christian peoples are the real children of Israel. Exactly as Paul tells us in Galatians 6:14-16
They- WE Christians are the Overcomers for God, His Israelites, from every race, nation and language. Revelation 5:9
 

Billy Evmur

Active Member
Dec 30, 2020
338
146
43
72
London
facebook.com
Faith
Christian
Country
United Kingdom
Which Israel do you mean?
The fake Israel currently occupying a small part of the holy Land? Or the real Israelites of God, the Overcomers for Him, people from every race, nation and language? 1 Peter 2:9-10, Revelation 5:9-10

If there is no Israel there is no church for we who were aliens and strangers have been made co-heirs and partakers of their commonwealth. The new covenant is between Israel and God and we have been admitted into it through Christ.

He is King of the Jews.
 

theefaith

Well-Known Member
Aug 25, 2020
20,070
1,354
113
63
Dallas
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
There are many wannabees claiming to be the lost tribes of Israel. They do it to get out of their 3rd world situation.
But Jesus clearly stated that He came to save the lost sheep of the House of Israel. Matthew 15:24
So unless you think Jesus failed in His mission, the Christian peoples are the real children of Israel. Exactly as Paul tells us in Galatians 6:14-16
They- WE Christians are the Overcomers for God, His Israelites, from every race, nation and language. Revelation 5:9
Gal 4 Christians are of the free woman