Muslims Can't Handle It ... Can You?

[John Zain]

My Bottom Line … WHY I believe what I do

The Bible is unbelievable and mysterious … with its’ incredible miracles,
with its’ unique salvation without good works, with its’ Triune God,
with its’ sinless Man dying in our place for our sins, etc.

But, GOD is quite unbelivable also …
GOD is everywhere, knows everything, sees everything, and is all-powerful.
Not only that , but GOD says …
“ My thoughts are not your thoughts,
nor are your ways My ways”, says the Lord.
“For as the heavens are higher than the earth,
so are My ways higher than your ways,
and My thoughts than your thoughts.” (Isaiah 55:8-9)
So, I believe it is foolish to judge GOD about anything. Who are we to judge GOD?

I also believe it’s foolish to use our intellect and logic to decide on spiritual things
… because throughout history, man has always been a spiritual idiot.
“There is a way that seems right to a man, but its end is the way of death.”
(Proverbs 14:12 and 16:25)

In 1984, I was “born again (from above)” (John 3:3, 7 and 1 Peter 1:23).
A few months later, many of my ideas, attitudes, and priorities changed,
and I began devouring the Bible. The Holy Spirit was within me
(John 14:16-26, Romans 8:11, 1 Corinthians 3:16, etc.),
and He convinced me that what I was reading is the truth.
It was that feeling of “I know that I know that I know.”
6 years later, God healed me instantly of a major muscle sprain in my back.
He was preparing me to have great faith in His powers of the miraculous.

9 years later, I received the baptism with the Holy Spirit.
I became a different person with incredible faith, boldness, and spiritual power.
The world-famous evangelist, Smith Wigglesworth (1859-1947), who was
used mightily of GOD in the healing ministry (even raising of the dead), said:
“If you do not receive the baptism with the Holy Spirit,
you are living in a weak and impoverished condition.”

Here’s an interesting story for you to consider:
Years ago, I became involved in the “Which Bible version is best?” controversy.
After a few weeks, GOD told me to run from this … to not waste my time with it.
My take on this is that all Bibles have the major important doctrines,
and the minor differences are just not worth getting excited about,
especially when the truth about it is not provable anyway.

GOD began sending me to many hundreds of small remote Bulgarian villages.
And for 15 years …
I experienced many of GOD’s miracles of provision, protection, and anointing.
Here is one of the gospel tracts that He led me to distribute specifically to Muslims.
If you are curious about it, please click here http://www.wmpress.o...engnkjv.htm#HOW

So, over the years …
GOD has proven that I have the right GOD, the right gospel, the right “Book”, etc.

 

[John Zain]

Okay, from your lack of response, I guess you can't handle it either.

 

[Martin W.]

Okay, from your lack of response, I guess you can't handle it either.

We can't handle what John?

It sounds like you are trying to give your testimony, but then it turns out to be more like preaching , and seems to be about Muslims.at the same time.

Which one of those three were you Intending ?

Thanks.

Martin

 

[John Zain]

We can't handle what John?
It sounds like you are trying to give your testimony, but then it turns out to be more like preaching , and seems to be about Muslims.at the same time.
Which one of those three were you Intending

It was only written as a very short version of my testimony.
Muslims can't handle any of it.
How many Christians can handle all of it?

 

[Foreigner]

Seems like a rousing bout of narcissism, John.

Why should someone here get excited about it one way or the other?

 

[deprofundis]

I don't get how Muslims couldn't "stand" it, either. I mean, sure, there's probably a lot of it they wouldn't accept, but I really don't think it would cause most of them much duress.

 

[bud02]

Seems like a rousing bout of narcissism, John.

Why should someone here get excited about it one way or the other?

Pr 17:24

 

[Martin W.]

How many Christians can handle all of it?

Hi John.

Originally I read carefully your opening post and saw an underlying hint that you feel the way "you experience God" should be the only way ...... and that if we do not do it your way ....... then something is wrong.
And yes it has a touch of narcissism.
But you are not alone. Many Christians do the same.
Including me at times.

Now I type the following slowly and carefully :

"We believers all have the same God .... but he works differently in each of us."

So yes , I cannot accept what happens to you should happen to me. Hope that makes sense.

Here is an example John. I have had many prayers answered, but not all have been. I had a severe back problem for many years and prayer did not help me like it did for you. I prayed a lot.

What worked for me was to drink a quart of pain killing Canadian 5-STAR whiskey as fast as I could, I put a stiff board under the cushions of my sofa , and passed out flat on my back for 10 hours. (true story) . I woke up pain free and have been fine ever since. I am not much of a drinker , and I hate the taste of whiskey , I would not recommend it to anyone else , but it worked for me and prayer did not. I would have preferred just praying.

Now my point. I am amazed how an old whiskey guzzling Canadian can still be used by God for recent amazing things , including a trip to the angelic realm to receive profound prophetic information and insight (true story).

If you sense a bit of narcissism in me , you are correct. I plead guilty.

The next time I have back problems I will get you to pray for me John . I do like your method best. Thank you.

In the near future I will reveal the latest event in prophecy. It has already happened. It is 100% observable , document-able, and scriptural. It stands up to all scrutiny. I guarantee it . Even people with bad backs will sit straight up in their chairs. I am completely serious.

That is all I can say for now John, more in the future , but I would like you to know that your God , the God of Israel , is the right one , the only one , and in the near future he will be giving the Muslim an opportunity to turn from Allah to God of Israel as well. Not all will , but many will. Much good news will be forthcomming. I only mentioned that because you mentioned Muslims.

Best regards John.
I hope all your prayers are answered.
I like your testimony by the way.
Keep up the good work.
Talk later.
Thanks

A. Martin. M
Woodside

 

[aspen]

I hold out hope for all people to know Christ - Muslims included. With such a gracious and persistent God, it is hard to think otherwise.

 

[John Zain]

Seems like a rousing bout of narcissism, John.
Why should someone here get excited about it one way or the other?

I think this should get everyone excited ...
one way or the other ...
pro or con ...
positive or negative ...
happy or sad ...
etc.

The world-famous evangelist, Smith Wigglesworth (1859-1947), who was
used mightily of GOD in the healing ministry (even raising of the dead), said:
“If you do not receive the baptism with the Holy Spirit,
you are living in a weak and impoverished condition.”

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Martin,

Thank you ... and I hereby request that you share your prophecy information with us.
(Before posting my testimony on a Muslim site, I wait for an invitation to do so.
And it always causes quite a stir.)

 

[Templar81]

He raised the ead? How long had they ben dead?

 

[TexUs]

I think this should get everyone excited ...
one way or the other ...
pro or con ...
positive or negative ...
happy or sad ...
etc.

The world-famous evangelist, Smith Wigglesworth (1859-1947), who was
used mightily of GOD in the healing ministry (even raising of the dead), said:
“If you do not receive the baptism with the Holy Spirit,
you are living in a weak and impoverished condition.”

Not really going to comment on the content itself but you do realize there's a difference between the words of man and the words of God, don't you?

 

[amadeus]

My Bottom Line … WHY I believe what I do

I also believe it’s foolish to use our intellect and logic to decide on spiritual things
… because throughout history, man has always been a spiritual idiot.
“There is a way that seems right to a man, but its end is the way of death.”
(Proverbs 14:12 and 16:25)

Amen! Even the smartest of men can know nothing of the things of God without God's help!

In 1984, I was “born again (from above)” (John 3:3, 7 and 1 Peter 1:23).
A few months later, many of my ideas, attitudes, and priorities changed,
and I began devouring the Bible. The Holy Spirit was within me
(John 14:16-26, Romans 8:11, 1 Corinthians 3:16, etc.),
and He convinced me that what I was reading is the truth.
It was that feeling of “I know that I know that I know.”
6 years later, God healed me instantly of a major muscle sprain in my back.
He was preparing me to have great faith in His powers of the miraculous.

Give God all of the glory my friend! Without Him we could do nothing!

9 years later, I received the baptism with the Holy Spirit.
I became a different person with incredible faith, boldness, and spiritual power.
The world-famous evangelist, Smith Wigglesworth (1859-1947), who was
used mightily of GOD in the healing ministry (even raising of the dead), said:
“If you do not receive the baptism with the Holy Spirit,
you are living in a weak and impoverished condition.”

What would you say is the difference between what you had previously where the Holy Spirit was in you and the baptism of the Holy Ghost? I see no difference!

Here’s an interesting story for you to consider:
Years ago, I became involved in the “Which Bible version is best?” controversy.
After a few weeks, GOD told me to run from this … to not waste my time with it.
My take on this is that all Bibles have the major important doctrines,
and the minor differences are just not worth getting excited about,
especially when the truth about it is not provable anyway.

If it is not quickened within us, the writing of itself is just another book. This is all that the real atheist is able to find.

GOD began sending me to many hundreds of small remote Bulgarian villages.
]And for 15 years …
I experienced many of GOD’s miracles of provision, protection, and anointing.
Here is one of the gospel tracts that He led me to distribute specifically to Muslims.

Again, my friend give God the glory for anything good that He has done through you! Be careful about letting your own head swell up too much!

So, over the years …
GOD has proven that I have the right GOD, the right gospel, the right “Book”, etc.

God has proven much more than this to His people. We do indeed need to always give Him the glory.

 

[John Zain]

What would you say is the difference between
what you had previously where the Holy Spirit was in you
and the baptism of the Holy Ghost?
I see no difference!

RE: the born-again experience ... the Holy Spirit comes INTO the person.
RE: the baptism with the Holy Spirit ... He comes UPON the person.
Many verses support this.
I did mention the differences in my own condition in post #1
and this is why I'm promoting this baptism with the Holy Spirit
(but some think I'm just boasting about it).

Often, this baptism is about special anointing for leadership ministry.
However, many others have it who are "only" prayer intercessors, etc.

 

[amadeus]

RE: the born-again experience ... the Holy Spirit comes INTO the person.
RE: the baptism with the Holy Spirit ... He comes UPON the person.
Many verses support this.
I did mention the differences in my own condition in post #1
and this is why I'm promoting this baptism with the Holy Spirit
(but some think I'm just boasting about it).

Often, this baptism is about special anointing for leadership ministry.
However, many others have it who are "only" prayer intercessors, etc.

Thank you! I have heard that explanation before, but seriously doubt it!