Is the human "spirit" the "perception" they hold; God's or Satan's lie (carnal mind)?

[pittsburghjoe]

Is the human "spirit" the "perception" they hold; God's or Satan's lie (carnal mind)?

Does the Bible sometimes use "spirit" for "perception"?

Otherwise, what is this about?:

Ephesians 2:2-3 "according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that now worketh in the children of disobedience"
Ephesians 6:12 "Spiritual wickedness in high places"

Is the human spirit a historical database of your life/perception and then opening the door to Christ allows the Holy Spirit to cleanse/renew/regenerate it? At death, is the spirit flashing the history to the soul? Can both Spirits (human and God's Holy Spirit) be in a soul at the same time or is it more of a handshake/relationship?

 

[pittsburghjoe]

Can we differentiate the human spirit from the Holy Spirit with the human spirit being defined as the history of using the perception of the Holy Spirit? Does the Holy Spirit cleanse our sin history with the relationship? Does someone with a history of using the perception of satan at physical death, end up holding onto their carnal mind history?

 

[pittsburghjoe]

Jesus removed satan's automatic claim on everyone's soul/body, but you still have to face judgement for what you did. You have to ask for forgiveness before physical death.

If your perception is set to God's Word, your spirit has a relationship with the Holy Spirit. Jesus died for the sins of the soul/body, but your spirit/perception has to be connected to the Holy Spirit to be in the Book Of Life. Without opening the door in your physical life, your soul and spirit become disconnected from God. You signed yourself up to the perception of satan for infinity.

 

[pittsburghjoe]

Is a human's spirit, their perception of the knowledge of good and evil?

Is "human spirit" interchangeable with "perception" throughout the Bible?

 

[lforrest]

I can't agree that human spirit means the same as perception. I think of it like a spiritual place somehow accompanying a person, like ships and their crew. Spiritual beings by literally being there, like guests or even unwanted guests, will influence your ship.

 

[pittsburghjoe]

It doesn’t have to be “decisions”, perception of God’s Word vs satan’s lie is at the core of this reality. I don’t think satan can have an evil spirit in multiple people ..it has to be a perception of The Truth.

 

[pittsburghjoe]

Does The Truth manifest good perception?

 

[pittsburghjoe]

Adam and Eve became self-aware (via Sindre Anfinnes) with the forbidden fruit. They suddenly could be about themselves. Sin is all about yourself. They got a perception of good and evil. They became lowercase gods and made their own rules. The carnal mindset of death.

"In the Myers/Briggs Personality Test the letter P represents perception. Perception is the acknowledgement of the Reality from one’s point of view, more like an opinion regarding it. Perceptions can and do change as experiences continue to re-advise the person."

"The Self is a Freudian Archetypes in our mind. We even call it the Reality Principle because it is surmising the external Reality and developing its knowledge about that environment."
via David Kofh​

I think “human spirit” and “perception” became the same thing.

 

[pittsburghjoe]

Is it the soul's perception vs the spirit's perception? Is this life about getting both to align with The Truth?

Is the soul's perception defaulted to carnal/satan (born into original sin) and if we don't open the door to Christ, we stay that way for eternity?

 

[pittsburghjoe]

Ephesians 3:19
“And to know the love of Christ, which passeth knowledge, that ye might be filled with all the fulness of God.”

God's Love surpasses knowledge ..could it be the same knowledge from the Tree?

 

[pittsburghjoe]

The human spirit is dead at birth ..but it is God's version of death in sin.

 

[APAK]

The human spirit is dead at birth ..but it is God's version of death in sin.

I sense you are being too general and liberal in the use of your terms in this topic...
So when is the human spirit 'alive..? In the womb, at the first cry and breath outside of the womb, days, weeks later or when then receive the Holy Spirt dwelling within and united their spirit?

APAK

 

[pittsburghjoe]

I sense you are being too general and liberal in the use of your terms in this topic...
So when is the human spirit 'alive..? In the womb, at the first cry and breath outside of the womb, days, weeks later or when then receive the Holy Spirt dwelling within and united their spirit?

APAK

When you know God and He knows you. When you open the door. ..a relationship.

 

[APAK]

When you know God and He knows you. When you open the door. ..a relationship.

Ok, I agree with this simple response....So at this point in time do we perceive both good and evil, are attracted more toward good than evil, and even hate evil...and therefore when we are spiritually 'alive' to use your lingo, is our DB of perceptions or mindset, only filled with the good, good and bad, or just bad/evil....and what is the HS's role is keeping us 'good.? What is the process.....does the HS alter our future perceptions or is it left up to us to do t all ourselves? Thanks

 

[pittsburghjoe]

I'm a born again, I'm not sure how strong my connection was beforehand. I'm hoping my rotten years had a purpose ..like I wouldn't be here right now figuring out what I said in this thread unless I went through it. I know God has His hand in future causality paths. It is the part of science we can use to point Him out. An interference pattern isn't possible without God.

This whole thread is trying to figure out how the percentages work for good and evil.

 

[pittsburghjoe]

Maybe the soul is the "evil" and the spirit is the "good". We have the perception of the tree. The relationship with the Holy Spirit gets rid of the perception, but the soul is still attached to a physical/corrupt human body. We still have to deal with evil thoughts.

 

[pittsburghjoe]

Maybe only the soul has the perception of the tree and the spirit can only be fully good or fully evil perception.

 

[APAK]

Well I define the soul as the spirit in the living and breathing body. Whilst this spirit in in this corrupt and decaying body it does still tie us to the tree of good and evil. Cannot avoid it. As they say not even a Christian is perfect. The HS giving us the spirit of Christ gives our spirit a permanent life line to perfection and eternal life. Christ's spirit works with us as we cooperate and grow, distancing ourselves for this tree of knowledge. This is what matters to me. The tree of knowledge is behind far behind as I view it in my rear view mirror...never to take charge of my soul again....onward to perfection as it is humanly possible in, as a human earth bound soul today.

 

[Taken]

Is the human "spirit" the "perception" they hold; God's or Satan's lie (carnal mind)?
OP^

The "human spirit", IS a mans truth...
IN HIS HEART.

The "human carnal mind", IS a mans wonderfully created part of his body, that can learn new information, think, weigh new information, make decisions to logically believe the information, or not.

Carnal minds, constantly gaining new information, weighing between this information and that information, and choosing what makes the most logical sense to believe....and tomorrow may gain more information and rethink, and weigh, and logically believe something different.

The spirit in the Heart...simply lands on A TRUTH, and weighs nothing between this and that.

You know your name. It is a Truth in your heart. You do not hear another name, and then weigh your name and another name, and logically decide humm, maybe another name is really the name you are called.

The Lord is in the business of Saving souls, and quickening spirits...
He looks for YOUR truth, in your natural spirit, in your heart (He does not look for your confession of belief from your ever changing Carnal mind)...

When you hear the Word of God...your mind may weigh his Word back and forth (believeable...not believable)...

When you hear the Word of God...and your spirit in your Heart, accepts that His word is Absolute Truth...THAT is the Confession the Lord looks and listens for.

When your natural spirit in your Heart, CONFESSIES Belief...THEN does the Lord God Plant HIS SEED (His Word of Truth) in your spirit, to REBIRTH your "natural truth"... to His Spiritual Truth....
Called, the man becoming "born again".

^ that is one part of Gods "making" a man Converted IN Christ.

 

[pittsburghjoe]

Is the human "spirit" the "perception" they hold; God's or Satan's lie (carnal mind)?
OP^

The "human spirit", IS a mans truth...
IN HIS HEART.

The "human carnal mind", IS a mans wonderfully created part of his body, that can learn new information, think, weigh new information, make decisions to logically believe the information, or not.

Carnal minds, constantly gaining new information, weighing between this information and that information, and choosing what makes the most logical sense to believe....and tomorrow may gain more information and rethink, and weigh, and logically believe something different.

The spirit in the Heart...simply lands on A TRUTH, and weighs nothing between this and that.

You know your name. It is a Truth in your heart. You do not hear another name, and then weigh your name and another name, and logically decide humm, maybe another name is really the name you are called.

The Lord is in the business of Saving souls, and quickening spirits...
He looks for YOUR truth, in your natural spirit, in your heart (He does not look for your confession of belief from your ever changing Carnal mind)...

When you hear the Word of God...your mind may weigh his Word back and forth (believeable...not believable)...

When you hear the Word of God...and your spirit in your Heart, accepts that His word is Absolute Truth...THAT is the Confession the Lord looks and listens for.

When your natural spirit in your Heart, CONFESSIES Belief...THEN does the Lord God Plant HIS SEED (His Word of Truth) in your spirit, to REBIRTH your "natural truth"... to His Spiritual Truth....
Called, the man becoming "born again".

^ that is one part of Gods "making" a man Converted IN Christ.

That was beautiful. I would "like" it multiple times if I could.

I need to form this into a question for quora.com:

If the soul is the body/mind, does it have the perception of the tree of knowledge and can the spirit of the heart only be fully good or fully evil perception?