Once Saved Always Saved

[kcnalp]

what happens when you mine precious stone and do not work it out?


You can’t lose? If you do not have salvation. You have nothing to work out

let me guess, now your gonna cray again

I believe in Jesus. Why are you judging me? I know why. You declare NON OSASers as unsaved!

 

[Waiting on him]

Then what fear do you think Paul is talking about here?

Do not be arrogant, but be afraid. Romans 11:20​

I don't see any of the fear of God that Paul is talking about in BB's flippant, conceited boast of faith.

He’s speaking to men that are not converted.
Listen,, you don’t hear Jesus ever saying obey me or else. The reason being He’s God and He know that obedience follows love and trust .... not fear.

 

[Eternally Grateful]

reminds me of 2 kids fighting saying my dad can beat your dad up. only its My doctrine is more correct than yours

 

[Waiting on him]

So you're admitting that I can be saved without believing OSAS?

Absolutely. Your just parroting what you’ve been told of men.

 

[marks]

Sounds reasonable.

Continuing . . .

This new life is found not in our flesh bodies, instead it is found in God's Spirit. If you destroy my flesh body, my natural life ends, but my spiritual life does not, because the Spirit lives eternally.

I have eternal life because I'm united to the One Who is alone immortal, eternal.

Still on the same page?

Much love!

 

[Eternally Grateful]

I believe in Jesus. Why are you judging me? I know why. You declare NON OSASers as unsaved!

If you believed I Jesus, you would believe he had the power to change all his children, and that his faithfulness was so pure no one would desire to leave him, and that he never fails

I don’t see that in you

 

[kcnalp]

Judge not lest ye be judged.

I didn't judge anyone.

stop crying

You're the one "crying".

Romans 11 is talking about gentiles being cut off not individuals,

Gentiles are not individuals? Oh my!

your lack of discernment is amazing you will twist the Bible like a pretzel to make sure your belief stands,

But you offer ZERO proof. I love Scripture!

John 15:6 (NKJV)
6 If anyone does not abide in Me, he is cast out as a branch and is withered; and they gather them and throw them into the fire, and they are burned.

 

[Wrangler]

I can’t stop going against NOSAS, it’s unbiblical and denies the power of God

So, what do you make of Jesus talking about salt losing it’s flavor?

 

[kcnalp]

If you believed I Jesus, you would believe he had the power to change all his children, and that his faithfulness was so pure no one would desire to leave him, and that he never fails

I don’t see that in you

You're blinded by OSAS doctrine.

2 Peter 2:20-22 (NKJV)
20 For if, after they have escaped the pollutions of the world through the knowledge of the Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, they are again entangled in them and overcome, the latter end is worse for them than the beginning. 21 For it would have been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than having known it, to turn from the holy commandment delivered to them. 22 But it has happened to them according to the true proverb: "A dog returns to his own vomit," and, "a sow, having washed, to her wallowing in the mire."

 

[Waiting on him]

It's your word against Peters.
1 Peter 2:17 (NKJV)
17 Fear God.

The word fear can mean many things.

 

[Ferris Bueller]

Let me try again: "I would like to discuss why OSASers judge NON OSASers as unsaved."

They do to non osasers the very thing Paul said not to do in regard to the Israelites. Many of them come across as arrogant, conceited, and cocksure in their faith toward those they consider to not be in the faith.

...you stand by faith. Do not be arrogant, but be afraid. For if God did not spare the natural branches, He will certainly notg spare you either. Romans 11:20-21
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There is no fear, there is no humility in them. Just haughty and condescending remarks and insults toward those they don't consider knowledgeable enough or spiritual enough to be where they think they are.

 

[kcnalp]

I just want to thank all you OSAS believers for declaring I can never be unsaved!

 

[kcnalp]

The word fear can mean many things.

Now you're saying the Bible doesn't mean what it says!

1 Peter 2:17 (NKJV)
17 Fear God.

 

[Ferris Bueller]

The word fear can mean many things.

And what it means in Romans 11:20 BB ain't got!

 

[Waiting on him]

I just want to thank all you OSAS believers for declaring I can never be unsaved!

Not true.

 

[Eternally Grateful]

I didn't judge anyone.

You're the one "crying".

Ok, whatever, your acting like a child here.

Gentiles are not individuals? Oh my!

Romans 11 is talking about the nation of Israel vs gentiles not induvidual people

But you offer ZERO proof. I love Scripture!

John 15:6 (NKJV)
6 If anyone does not abide in Me, he is cast out as a branch and is withered; and they gather them and throw them into the fire, and they are burned.

Yep.

and who does not abide? Those who are lost..

How long will you continue to deny the power of God?

 

[marks]

I just want to thank all you OSAS believers for declaring I can never be unsaved!

If you are born again, I see no indication in the Bible that might undo. And many things that tell me it won't.

Having this understanding gives great peace to our hearts. And allows us to fully trust God in whatever He wants to do, no matter what's going on in our lives. And this trust is what will bring us the victory over those things which we think may cause us to be rejected by God.

When we come to understand He won't rejected us because we still do wrong, that is the faith that allows us to stop doing wrong.

Much love!

 

[Ferris Bueller]

I just want to thank all you OSAS believers for declaring I can never be unsaved!

It is interesting how osasers tell non osasers they aren't saved. Especially when they say no believer has to keep believing to remain saved. What a contradiction, lol! But, meanwhile, they get a free pass on anything and everything they may possibly think, do, say, or believe.

 

[marks]

And what it means in Romans 11:20 BB ain't got!

All these times I read your judgments of others, and you sound so certain of yourself. People on a message board that you've never even met, yet you know their hearts.

OK.

 

[Eternally Grateful]

I just want to thank all you OSAS believers for declaring I can never be unsaved!

You have to be saved first.

that demands TRUE repentance and TRUE faith in God

not fake repentance and faith in self

 

[Waiting on him]

All these times I read your judgments of others, and you sound so certain of yourself. People on a message board that you've never even met, yet you know their hearts.

OK.

It’s a minor thing that he would judge me.