LOL. Pathetic. This is a quote from David. David is saying to God that his thrown is forever, which it is.
You are blinded by your unbelief
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LOL. Pathetic. This is a quote from David. David is saying to God that his thrown is forever, which it is.
LOL. Pathetic. This is a quote from David. David is saying to God that his thrown is forever, which it is.
Where did I misapply it? Are you able to read my mind? What happened to living by faith? Faith is not knowledge, is it?You quoted Scripture and misapplied it for the purpose of theology which is unsound. Because in the Godhead The Three Persons are 100% co-equal co-essential and co-eternal
John 1:1
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
This is the most absurd thing I ever heard. The Father begat Jesus. Jesus died. God raised Jesus from the dead. Jesus was sent, did the will, spoke the words of God, needed to be strengthened by angels and prophets and asked God to take the Cup. Jesus submitted to the will of the Father.
In none of these instances is the reverse equally true. Jesus did not begat the Father.The Father did not die. Jesus did not raise the Father from the dead. The Father was not sent and did not do the will of Jesus. The Father did not speak the words of Jesus. The Father did not need to be strengthened. The Father did not ask Jesus to take the cup. The Father did not submit to the will of the son.
Not this crap again. The Word is the word of God (not Jesus). See Deuteronomy 18:15-18.
Noticed you just ignore the inequality.
Except for all the exceptions, there are no exceptions.
Are we lost for lack of knowledge of Greek? I once met a man from Nicaragua, a godly man, who served God closely. He spoke only Spanish, but he was completely illiterate in even his own human language. His testimony was real and powerful. [I do speak, read and understand Spanish.] Does this man have no hope because he is illiterate? Will we be given a theology test to determine our eligibility for eternal Life?Do you know any Greek
Where did I misapply it? Are you able to read my mind? What happened to living by faith? Faith is not knowledge, is it?
"Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen" Heb 11:1
You say that "in the Godhead the three person are 100% co-equal, co-essential and co-eternal" as if that were a fact known by God rather than something which you believe. Where did you move from faith to knowledge?
In any case, the greatest and most important thing is Not knowledge as it certainly comes in at a lower place than love/charity, does it not?
"And though I have the gift of prophecy, and understand all mysteries, and all knowledge; and though I have all faith, so that I could remove mountains, and have not charity [love], I am nothing." I Cor 13:2
"And now abideth faith, hope, charity [love], these three; but the greatest of these is charity [love]" I Cor 13:13
If you must then contend for what you believe by faith, but be very slow to call it or to treat it as knowledge. God knows, but do not the rest us live by faith?
I speak English. I am Groot.
Where it is very clear from the Greek text, that two separate Persons are spoken of, God the Father, and God the Son (the Lamb).
What then is the Word become flesh (John 1:14)?The Word is the word of God (not Jesus).
No, I believe that men have found verses which support it. It is one of those many things that Catholics held prior to the Reformation. Most of the reformers carried a lot of those things with them and never seriously questioned them. My own starting place once I arrived there is at the bottom, the lowest room [Luke 14:10] with nothing. I still go there regularly, daily hopefully, and allow God to lift me up to a higher place at His discretion. Only God gives us any real increase!Do you believe that the Bible teaches that God is a Trinity? If so, what does this mean?
It is no mystery. Christ is the son of God, which means by definition, he is not God.
In Isaiah 9.6 Jesus Christ is called The Mighty God
"And though I have the gift of prophecy, and understand all mysteries, and all knowledge; and though I have all faith, so that I could remove mountains, and have not charity [love], I am nothing." I Cor 13:2
"And now abideth faith, hope, charity [love], these three; but the greatest of these is charity [love]" I Cor 13:13
They are not separate but distinct; even according to the creeds.
Also the Greek word "kai", which is translated as "and", can also be translated as "even"
To apply it as and/even and therefore distinction rather than separation.you are right, I have corrected this as "distinct". What is your point in taking "kai", as "even"?
Yes; and in Psalms 50:1 (kjv), the Mighty God is identified as the LORD (Jehovah).
Also, Isaiah 9:6 says that the name of the son that was given shall be called "The everlasting Father".
That proves that Jesus is God.
But in case you want to still say that He is a Person separate (rather than distinct) from the Father, consider that in order to do so, you have to change the wording of this scripture, as it is quoted in the kjv, not once, but twice.
Charity, "rejoices not in iniquity (unsound doctrine) but in the truth" (1 Corinthians 13:6)
Amadeus said:
"And though I have the gift of prophecy, and understand all mysteries, and all knowledge; and though I have all faith, so that I could remove mountains, and have not charity [love], I am nothing." I Cor 13:2
"And now abideth faith, hope, charity [love], these three; but the greatest of these is charity [love]" I Cor 13:13
justbyfaith said:
Charity, "rejoices not in iniquity (unsound doctrine) but in the truth" (1 Corinthians 13:6)
To apply it as and/even and therefore distinction rather than separation.
No, I believe that men have found verses which support it. It is one of those many things that Catholics held prior to the Reformation. Most of the reformers carried a lot of those things with them and never seriously questioned them. My own starting place once I arrived there is at the bottom, the lowest room [Luke 14:10] with nothing. I still go there regularly, daily hopefully, and allow God to lift me up to a higher place at His discretion. Only God gives us any real increase!