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Tama

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I hear part of Jesus' lineage included a harlot and a murderer.
Yes it does. David was a murderer...It says that Jesus is David's son, and then it says that he is of a Holy Ghost.. So it came from Mary who is a Jewish woman with a sinful nature - so he was made human thru her, but still holy because concieved by Holy Ghost who is holy. Matthew 1:1 (Whole Chapter) The book of the generation of Jesus Christ, the son of David, the son of Abraham. Matthew 1:18 Now the birth of Jesus Christ was on this wise: When as his mother Mary was espoused to Joseph, before they came together, she was found with child of the Holy Ghost. RDN - not personally to you - but this is a matter of studying Bible. I or you can have thousands of theories but Bible says how it is!
 

Jordan

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Who said Abel wasn't a twin brother...a twin can be a minute apart, even five minute apart. Just remember the Kenites (sons of Cain) is still very real today. And yes we are capable of sinning...but do you think most likely a devil would want to repent. I say nay. a devil would rather want sons of God to be with them, to deceive them. But it's possible that the Kenites (sons of Cain) want to repent to the Lord Jesus Christ.P.S. Have you read the real sin of the study? If not True Sin Study
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No, but I've gone thru full length of a Bible School and Missionary school (3 years) and believe me - I learned alot and have lots and lots of Bible-study material.....Okay, No, Devil wouldn't want to repent, but we have a Holy Spirit that talks to our consciense and we repent. If you think that only a man of Devil's blood line can murder - look at David... He murdered someone and God still loved David.. Moses murdered someone. So, by your theory - if you commit a sin and don't repent you are of Devil's bloodline?
The Devil and followers of the Devil, hates God. That's why they don't want their soul saved...and quite frankly, they certainly don't want His will, but their own selfish will. The Devil (Satan) always want to lust about his own things, and not His will Cain is certainly one of them (even the Kenites). A child of God will love to have the Father to correct their errors.Lovest thou in Christ Jesus our Lord and Saviour.
 

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The Devil and followers of the Devil, hates God. That's why they don't want their soul saved...and quite frankly, they certainly don't want His will, but their own selfish will. The Devil (Satan) always want to lust about his own things, and not His will Cain is certainly one of them (even the Kenites). A child of God will love to have the Father to correct their errors.Lovest thou in Christ Jesus our Lord and Saviour.
And what does word 'followers' have to do with 'blood line'? Most of the world is Satan's followers, who refuse to repent, but are they all of the Devil's blood? So, Bible isn't accurate? It says, Adam slept with Eve and concieved Cain... ??? And God Himself called Cain Abel's brother... Satan is different from people. He isn't a person! He is an Angel. I don't even see why we're arguing same thing all day when Bible clearly says what's what, and who's who. But you want to mix your theories with God's words - Bible scriptures.....
 

Jordan

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My theories? Hey, if you want to believe that Adam and Eve ate a literal fruit by a literal tree, go by all means, whatever floats your boat. Right? God did indeed call Cain his brother. They are both in the flesh body as we are in. The only thing that both are seperated are the bloodline by spiritual. Either Jesus (Yahshua) or Lucifer. Matthew 7:16-20 - Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles? Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit. A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit. Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire. Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.Lovest thou in Christ Jesus our Lord and Saviour.
 

Tama

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My theories? Hey, if you want to believe that Adam and Eve ate a literal fruit by a literal tree, go by all means, whatever floats your boat. Right?
LOL. Yes! But for some strange reason God called it a fruit, God called tree a tree, God says Eve had a bite, he called Devil a snake, he called that place a Garden of Eden.... ?!
 

Jordan

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A literal tree doesn't and will never registered to me...because it was talking about three different kinds of trees. The "ordinary trees", "the tree of knowledge of good and evil" (Satan/Lucifer) and "the tree of life" (Jesus/Yahshua) And a serpent (as a literal snake) that can talk to a woman. I can't picture that at all. That serpent was Satan, an angel, at the Garden of Eden.Ezekiel 28:13 - Thou hast been in Eden the garden of God; every precious stone was thy covering, the sardius, topaz, and the diamond, the beryl, the onyx, and the jasper, the sapphire, the emerald, and the carbuncle, and gold: the workmanship of thy tabrets and of thy pipes was prepared in thee in the day that thou wast created.To be honest with thee Tama, The bible is so deep, that it is very hard to find the real meaning.
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Lovest thou in Christ Jesus our Lord and Saviour. P.S. I enjoyed discussions. (Think not that it was an argument)
 

RND

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Of course, Christ was born of a woman, without an earthly father...Noah and his family was the only family that didn't messed with the daughters of men.
Are you suggesting here that Ham, Shem and Japeth intermixed with something other than women?
Notice the sons of God (fallen angels in this case) take the daughters of men to be their wives and God said...
Um, angels don't reproduce on there own since God made them in Heaven. They have -zero- need to procreate.Genesis 6:3 - And the LORD said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also is flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years.
God saved Noah and his family (eight souls) on the Ark, and that flood destroys many people. Noah, while a just and perfect man in his generation.
This is true. 8 souls only. Well accept for the animals.
(Genesis 6:9) Noah and his family was pure because they didn't be with the daughters of men...God needed a pure bloodline so that Christ can be born of a woman. You seemed surprised that God needed the bloodline so that His Son can be born in the flesh. (John 1:14)
If God needed a "pure" bloodline why did God allow that bloodline to be mixed with a Moabitess, a *****, and a muderer?
 

RND

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LOL. Yes! But for some strange reason God called it a fruit, God called tree a tree, God says Eve had a bite, he called Devil a snake, he called that place a Garden of Eden.... ?!
And remarkablly, while the first three chapters of Genesis describe the fall of man, and man's separation from God the last three chapters of Revelation describe the reconciliation of men to God, and the restoration of man in the New Heavens.Ain't life grand!?
 

Joyful

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And remarkablly, while the first three chapters of Genesis describe the fall of man, and man's separation from God the last three chapters of Revelation describe the reconciliation of men to God, and the restoration of man in the New Heavens.Ain't life grand!?
thank you for quick summary of the Scripture:)