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marks

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In other words when the Lord makes a conditional declaration and the condition is met, then he changes His mind.
It's not like God didn't know what was going to happen or what He was going to do. Certainly He did. So His "repenting from" is not like what we do.

We shouldn't make the mistake as some make thinking that God is like a man.

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It's not like God didn't know what was going to happen or what He was going to do. Certainly He did. So His "repenting from" is not like what we do.

We shouldn't make the mistake as some make thinking that God is like a man.


Obviously, and we know once the Lord calls something an abomination such as sexual perversion that He wouldn't be changing His mind about that ever.
 

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1 Corinthians 6:9-10
9 Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals, nor sodomites, 10 nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit the kingdom of God.

And in Rom 1 Jesus called gays VILE and SHAMEFUL!
 
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Let's see what the others say.

Did God change at the Flood? Plan B? Sorry he made humankind? Oops.
The genocide solution. Same with the Promised Land.

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Have a friend whose sister... ( married).. was having problems 4 or 5 years ago.

Long story short she started to go clubbing with her adult daughter and "meeting" men.

She started to see one on a regular basis and they talked a lot about her problems.
I have no idea if "sex" was on the table at that time but this man told her that God wanted her to be happy... yada yada. And at some point this Roman Catholic thought she wanted a divorce..... ( hubby said no)

Well my friend was talking to her sister about the situation and God and the sister kept saying God wanted her to be happy... And my friend said not the way she was going about it it was wrong and sinful... and her sister told her she was wrong because that was the "old" God ....

The man had her convinced God had changed.
 

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1 Corinthians 6:9-10
9 Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals, nor sodomites, 10 nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit the kingdom of God.


It always amazes me how some Christians know so little about what the Lord teaches in His Word to not be aware that He tells us of the things that cause someone to not go to Heaven.

These are warnings to Christians! We know that to be true because people out in the world that never got saved are already on their way to hell so there's not reason to warn them of anything other than they need to come to the Lord Jesus and get born again.


and her sister told her she was wrong because that was the "old" God ....


Many of the fake grace preachers teach that there are two Gods, the God of the old testament who is mean and judgemental - and then there's Jesus the God of the new testament who doesn't care how you live as long as you acknowledge He is real and went to the Cross you can be saved.

Another reason why people think they can live their lives as sinners and still be saved just like the catholics believe who think all they have to do is swing by the catholic church and confess to their priest, say some good stuff about Mary, throw a few bucks in the offering plate and the priest then "absolves" them of all sin and they are all good with God.
 
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Wherever you are most comfortable.
Personally I prefer to do more than give a quick reading of an interpretive/paraphrase translation.

So let's start here. Does God know everything? One more question. Is God all-wise?

Much love!
 

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Personally I prefer to do more than give a quick reading of an interpretive/paraphrase translation.

So let's start here. Does God know everything? One more question. Is God all-wise?

Much love!
 

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Obviously, and we know once the Lord calls something an abomination such as sexual perversion that He wouldn't be changing His mind about that ever.
Just some thoughts here.

The Lord is God.......He is the only one qualified to judge/condemn anyone. We being mere humans ourselves, with all of us being flawed in our own ways, are not qualified to condemn others. However we do take instruction from the things God has said in His word, for our own good that we learn not to sin, and to share His word with others as appropriate, and also that we might discern whether something is kosher or sinful in God's sight. (ie, discern but not condemn.)

Eunuchs who come to Christ are accepted by Him and not condemned.

We live in a fallen world where mistakes happen in nature, and people who are born of indeterminate sex and have a sex assigned to them after birth by parents and doctors are certainly not to blame for their condition.

It is not a sin to be tempted, only to act on the temptation. Anyone who comes to Christ regardless of "sexual orientation" needs to stop sinning and add to their faith virtue. That is Christianity 101. Fornication of any kind, hetero or homo, or if there be any other kind, needs to stop. If anyone doesn't take this seriously and do battle with their demons or seek God for deliverance, they are going to be in danger of their soul. The devil is playing for keeps so we all need to understand our very life depends on this (eternal life) and fight the good fight accordingly. Sin is our deadly enemy and we are to run the race so as to win the prize......and no-one is crowned except they run the race LAWFULLY. God doesn't discriminate and that is why EVERYONE who comes to Christ is called to DENY themself and carry their cross regardless. If anyone is sincere with God they will understand we are not here for a good time, so don't expect to have your cake and eat it too. Sow to the flesh and reap corruption. Sow to the Spirit and reap eternal life. The same word applies to us all.
 

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Personally I prefer to do more than give a quick reading of an interpretive/paraphrase translation.

So let's start here. Does God know everything? One more question. Is God all-wise?

Much love!

How about starting with answering the question you were asked, instead of side-stepping and asking others?

When Moses came down the from the mountain and saw that the people had fallen into idolatry-- God said He was ready right then, to destroy the nation. Moses pleaded, and talked Him out of it.

And the LORD changed his mind about the disaster that he planned to bring on his people (Exodus 32:14).

Need more examples?


It says He was going to do, or thought to do one thing, then He decided not to after Moses pleaded with Him. And Moses knows firsthand about God changing His mind.... Exodus 4.
 
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How about starting with answering the question you were asked, instead of side-stepping and asking others?
Yes, I'll need more examples. And a more serious translation, please. Rewording verses in paraphrases doesn't really mean so much to me.

Now. Answer mine. Let's not play games, that's staying shallow, and I'm not really interested in that. If you want a serious and respectful discussion, great. Time will tell what you choose.

But let's take this to a new thread, and not hijack this one.


Much love!
 

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It always amazes me how some Christians know so little about what the Lord teaches in His Word to not be aware that He tells us of the things that cause someone to not go to Heaven.

These are warnings to Christians! We know that to be true because people out in the world that never got saved are already on their way to hell so there's not reason to warn them of anything other than they need to come to the Lord Jesus and get born again.

Many of the fake grace preachers teach that there are two Gods, the God of the old testament who is mean and judgemental - and then there's Jesus the God of the new testament who doesn't care how you live as long as you acknowledge He is real and went to the Cross you can be saved.

Another reason why people think they can live their lives as sinners and still be saved just like the catholics believe who think all they have to do is swing by the catholic church and confess to their priest, say some good stuff about Mary, throw a few bucks in the offering plate and the priest then "absolves" them of all sin and they are all good with God.
Satan has been busy, Dan!

2 Corinthians 11:14-15 Satan himself transforms himself into an angel of light.
15 Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also transform themselves into ministers of righteousness,
 

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Woah! Two different things are being discussed. Let's discern the difference.

1. God may change his mind, particularly in response to prayer.
2. God is eternal, meaning his nature does not change.
Yes.
Moses pleaded to God not to destroy the people. The Scripture then says the following occurred.

And the LORD repented of the evil which he thought to do to his people. (Exodus 32:14 RSV)
 

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Yes.
Moses pleaded to God not to destroy the people. The Scripture then says the following occurred.
Powerful quote from Exodus. Many attempt white wash God. The way I keep things straight is to orient myself in the reality of a Spiritual War.

Not wise to be an enemy of God. All manner of evil will befall you. On the other hand, if one repents, submits and surrenders, one will find themselves under his protection, mercy and good graces.
 

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I agree!



Maybe consider the implications -if He hadn't.

When Moses came down the from the mountain and saw that the people had fallen into idolatry-- God said He was ready right then, to destroy the nation. Moses pleaded, and talked Him out of it.

And the LORD changed his mind about the disaster that he planned to bring on his people (Exodus 32:14).

Need more examples?
Could God have been allowing Moses to decide their fate? If Moses had not pleaded then it would be done away with because God thought Moses agreed it should be done?

Of course a case also can be made for Abraham pleading for the righteous in Sodom.....shrugsmiley.gif

Or could a case be made for God honoring the pleadings of His people?
 

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What does it mean when we say that God does not change? (or never changes)

/ cc: @O'Darby @Hillsage @RedFan @Mr E
I know you tagged me for this a few pages back, but;

EPH 1:11 In whom also we have obtained an inheritance, being predestinated according to the purpose of him who worketh all things after the counsel of his own will:

IMO, God has seen the end from the beginning and "according to HIS purpose all things" are happening "after the counsel of HIS OWN WILL." And in the end His will WILL be done. Though he has wore many different 'hats' in how He dealt with His creation in the ages past until now.
 

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God knows EVERYTHING, past, present and future!

Psalm 147:5
5 Great is our Lord, and mighty in power; His understanding is infinite.

Every thought ever thought or will be. Everything ever done or will be done!
 
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