Amillennialism, What it is DESIGNED by the Devil To PRODUCE

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David in NJ

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Premills have no point. Look at their arguments. Nothing more than a complete joke. They make things up to support Premill and misrepresent Amill repeatedly. It seems impossible to get them to actually address our points and answer our questions. We see that over and over again.
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Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil walks about like a roaring lion, seeking whom he may devour.
Resist him, steadfast in the faith, knowing that the same sufferings are experienced by your brotherhood in the world.
 

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Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil walks about like a roaring lion, seeking whom he may devour.
Resist him, steadfast in the faith, knowing that the same sufferings are experienced by your brotherhood in the world.
And what exactly is your point?

I get it: Premillennialism has a big devil and a small impotent god. We already know that!

But, what is your point?
 
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IOW, you can't logically explain these meant in Revelation 20:8 per your view. But you sure make a big fuss about these in verse 8 when it comes to Premil, though. Why is that, when you yourself can't even logically explain these in verse 8 per your view? The question is, what are these billions doing during your millennium so that the rest of us, including ppl who read these posts but don't post themselves, can try and understand why they do what they do after your millennium if they are already being deceived during your millennium?

If they are being deceived during your millennium, billions of them, why do they need to wait until after your millennium for satan to deceive them? lol. As if it makes sense, that they are being deceived during your millennium, billions of them, and that they have to wait until after your millennium to be deceived. Rather than it being one or the other, Amils have it being both. Yet another fine example of how Amil contradicts Scripture, not agrees with it.

The readers of this thread are not blind. They can see Amil makes zero sense if billions are being deceived during their millennium, and that these same billions are also being deceived after your millennium. Therefore, there is zero difference between during your millennium and after your millennium, in regards to these meant in verse 8. No wonder you only want to focus on Premil's millennium, in regards to verse 8, so that way you can try and take the focus off of your millennium, in regards to these billions meant in verse 8.

You obviously can't logically explain why these billions are being deceived both during and after your millennium since you know it contradicts the text. Instead of dealing with the contradictions, let's just attack Premils millennium. That way maybe the readers won't notice the flaws in the Amil millennium, in regards to these billions meant in verse 8 in Revelation 20. IOW, one of the oldest tricks in the book.
How about you explain why you think Satan is more powerful and influential than Jesus in all His glory? You think that in a short time Satan will be able to completely ruin everything that Jesus does for a thousand years while on the earth in all of His glory. Why would billions rebel against Christ after being with Him in all of His glory for a thousand years? Would that somehow not be enough time to convince them that He is deserving of their worship and to convince them that they want to follow Him forever? You think Satan is so powerful that he would be able to convince billions of people to disregard everything they had experienced the previous 1,000 years while Christ was on the earth in all His glory and chalk it all up as a big lie and that they should follow him instead?
 

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Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil walks about like a roaring lion, seeking whom he may devour.
Resist him, steadfast in the faith, knowing that the same sufferings are experienced by your brotherhood in the world.
What are you intending to say here? Do you think Amils disagree with this verse? We don't. Do you even understand what we believe? If you did, you wouldn't try to use this verse to refute it.

And, why do you focus on 1 Peter 5:8 and not verse 9? He seeks "whom he may devour", but he can't devour you. He can't devour me. All we need to do is resist him and he must flee from us (James 4:7). Do you know why that is? Was that the case in OT times?

This kind of argument would only work against a view that says that Satan has been completely incapacitated since Christ's resurrection, but that is not what Amils claim. How about you try addressing what we actually believe for once? If you even understand what we believe. That is doubtful.
 

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And what exactly is your point?

I get it: Premillennialism has a big devil and a small impotent god. We already know that!

But, what is your point?
Yet another straw man argument from a Premill who does not understand what we believe. Notice how they focus on 1 Peter 5:8 and completely ignore 1 Peter 5:9. They focus on the power that Satan has and ignore the power that was taken away from him by Jesus and ignore that we have authority over him.
 
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Yet another straw man argument from a Premill who does not understand what we believe. Notice how they focus on 1 Peter 5:8 and completely ignore 1 Peter 5:9. They focus on the power that Satan has and ignore the power that was taken away from him by Jesus and ignore that we have authority over him.

Bro, they do not even understand what they believe. That's why they keep inventing these silly theories.
 

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Amillennialism denies the words of God in Genesis and Revelation concerning a literal 1,000 Year Reign

Revelation 20:1-6 Isnt A Millennial Kingdom On This Earth, Dont Be Deceived​


Can you find the things claimed by those teaching a Literal 1,000 year Millennial Kingdom On This Earth in Revelation 20:1-6 below?

1.) Physical Earthly Kingdom?
2.) Physical Earthly Throne?
3.) Physical Mortal Humans?

The Above Claims (Don't Exist)

Revelation 20:1-6 Is 100% In The Lords (Spiritual) Angel, Heaven, Devil, Satan, The Souls, The Dead, God, Christ

100% Spiritual Realm, No "Literal" Time

2 Peter 3:8KJV
8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.

Revelation 20:1-6KJV
1 And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand.
2 And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years,
3 And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season.
4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.
5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.
6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.
 

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Revelation 20:1-6 Isnt A Millennial Kingdom On This Earth, Dont Be Deceived​


Can you find the things claimed by those teaching a Literal 1,000 year Millennial Kingdom On This Earth in Revelation 20:1-6 below?

1.) Physical Earthly Kingdom?
2.) Physical Earthly Throne?
3.) Physical Mortal Humans?

The Above Claims (Don't Exist)

Revelation 20:1-6 Is 100% In The Lords (Spiritual) Angel, Heaven, Devil, Satan, The Souls, The Dead, God, Christ

100% Spiritual Realm, No "Literal" Time

2 Peter 3:8KJV
8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.

Revelation 20:1-6KJV
1 And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand.
2 And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years,
3 And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season.
4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.
5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.
6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.
Do you adhere to amil?