Amillennialism, What it is DESIGNED by the Devil To PRODUCE

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Spiritual Israelite

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1000/930 = 1.075

1.075% of a stretch is barely a heartbeat

Adam fell short of 1,000 years by 70 years = skip in the park
LOL. I'm saying it's a stretch to relate that to Revelation 20. You know your doctrine is weak when you have to resort to nonsense like this to try to to support it.
 

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LOL. I'm saying it's a stretch to relate that to Revelation 20. You know your doctrine is weak when you have to resort to nonsense like this to try to to support it.
Please quantify: "it's a stretch to relate that to Revelation 20"

Please quantify: "your doctrine is weak when you have to resort to nonsense"
 

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Please quantify: "it's a stretch to relate that to Revelation 20"

Please quantify: "your doctrine is weak when you have to resort to nonsense"
I don't need to. There is no relation between Adam's age and Revelation 20 and that is clear to see. The onus is on YOU to show that they relate. You think that Revelation 20 is talking about a time after Christ's return. Where is the scripture which says that Adam's age relates to a time after Christ's return? Nowhere.
 

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I don't need to.
Yes you do:
Remind them of these things, charging them before the Lord not to strive about words to no profit, to the ruin of the hearers.
Be diligent to present yourself approved to God, a worker who does not need to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.

There is no relation between Adam's age and Revelation 20 and that is clear to see.
Willful rejection of every word that proceeds from the Mouth of God = God Says "Adam lived 930 Years"

The onus is on YOU to show that they relate
Completed many times = God Says "Adam lived 930 Years" = Genesis = TRUTH


You think that Revelation 20 is talking about a time after Christ's return
CHRIST Says YES
GOSPEL , Rev 2:25 , 19:6-21 & 20:1-6 is when HE Returns = Blessed is he who has part in the First Resurrection = Rev 2:10-11 & Rev 20:6

Where is the scripture which says that Adam's age relates to a time after Christ's return?
Genesis, GOSPEL , 1 Corinthians chapter 15
 

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Willful rejection of every word that proceeds from the Mouth of God = God Says "Adam lived 930 Years"
I don't deny that Adam lived 930 years. That has absolutely nothing to do with Revelation 20. You think Revelation 20 has to do with a time after Christ's return. Show me the scripture which relates Adam's age to a time after Christ's return. Good luck with that. You are just making things up and everyone can see that. Your doctrine is based only on your imagination.

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Where is the scripture which says that Adam's age relates to a time after Christ's return?
David in NJ said:
Genesis, GOSPEL , 1 Corinthians chapter 15
Show me the exact scriptures that teach that Adam's age relates to a time after Christ's return. Your vague nonsense proves nothing. I will assume you are just making all this up unless you can be more specific.
 

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Show me the exact scriptures that teach that Adam's age relates to a time after Christ's return. Your vague nonsense proves nothing. I will assume you are just making all this up unless you can be more specific.
i have many times

Adam fell short of the 1,000 literal years by a mere 70 years = because of sin

CHRIST Paid for Adam's sin and for all who come to Christ.

Since CHRIST Paid for our sins we now have access to the FATHER thru the Precious Blood of Christ and we await His 2nd Coming & Resurrection of the Saints who have died(ourselves included if we die before His Return) = Gospel, 1 Thess 4:13-18, 1 Cor ch15

Religion will either reject Truth or more subtly will transcribe an erroneous interpretation of "It is written"
 

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i have many times

Adam fell short of the 1,000 literal years by a mere 70 years = because of sin

CHRIST Paid for Adam's sin and for all who come to Christ.

Since CHRIST Paid for our sins we now have access to the FATHER thru the Precious Blood of Christ and we await His 2nd Coming & Resurrection of the Saints who have died(ourselves included if we die before His Return) = Gospel, 1 Thess 4:13-18, 1 Cor ch15

Religion will either reject Truth or more subtly will transcribe an erroneous interpretation of "It is written"
You are foisting something upon this that is not there. This is more extra-biblical reasoning and opinions. Zero hard evidence.
 
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i have many times

Adam fell short of the 1,000 literal years by a mere 70 years = because of sin

CHRIST Paid for Adam's sin and for all who come to Christ.

Since CHRIST Paid for our sins we now have access to the FATHER thru the Precious Blood of Christ and we await His 2nd Coming & Resurrection of the Saints who have died(ourselves included if we die before His Return) = Gospel, 1 Thess 4:13-18, 1 Cor ch15

Religion will either reject Truth or more subtly will transcribe an erroneous interpretation of "It is written"
You are doing nothing to show any scripture which relates Adam's age to a time period after Christ's return. You have no clear scripture to support your doctrine. Your doctrine is clearly based on your imagination and not on scripture.
 
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You are doing nothing to show any scripture which relates Adam's age to a time period after Christ's return. You have no clear scripture to support your doctrine. Your doctrine is clearly based on your imagination and not on scripture.
some people see "It is written" while others do not

flesh and blood cannot reveal this to you
 

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You are foisting something upon this that is not there. This is more extra-biblical reasoning and opinions. Zero hard evidence.
some people see "It is written" while others do not

flesh and blood cannot reveal this to you
 

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some people see "It is written" while others do not

flesh and blood cannot reveal this to you
If you can't show it in scripture, which you have shown that you cannot, then it is not true. If your beliefs are just based on mysteries that only you can understand, then you know your beliefs are based only on your imagination.
 

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some people see "It is written" while others do not

flesh and blood cannot reveal this to you
Instead all these elaborate extra-biblical theories, human rationalizing, or carnal reasoning:
  • Where else in Scripture is a thousand years mentioned after the second coming?
  • Where in Scripture (including Rev 20) is Jesus shown to be on a millennial earth?
  • Where else in Scripture is the binding of Satan?
  • Where else in Scripture are the 2 future resurrections?
  • Where else in Scripture are the 2 future judgments?
  • Where else in Scripture is the release of Satan and an unparalleled global uprising 1,000 years after the second coming?
 

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Instead all these elaborate extra-biblical theories, human rationalizing, or carnal reasoning:
  • Where else in Scripture is a thousand years mentioned after the second coming?
  • Where in Scripture (including Rev 20) is Jesus shown to be on a millennial earth?
  • Where else in Scripture is the binding of Satan?
  • Where else in Scripture are the 2 future resurrections?
  • Where else in Scripture are the 2 future judgments?
  • Where else in Scripture is the release of Satan and an unparalleled global uprising 1,000 years after the second coming?
Look at what we're seeing from pre-tribs and premils on all these threads. They just make things up. We see that over and over again. It's all they can do to keep their false doctrines afloat since they can't support them with scripture.
 
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Instead all these elaborate extra-biblical theories, human rationalizing, or carnal reasoning:
  • Where else in Scripture is a thousand years mentioned after the second coming?
  • Where in Scripture (including Rev 20) is Jesus shown to be on a millennial earth?
  • Where else in Scripture is the binding of Satan?
  • Where else in Scripture are the 2 future resurrections?
  • Where else in Scripture are the 2 future judgments?
  • Where else in Scripture is the release of Satan and an unparalleled global uprising 1,000 years after the second coming?
The Holy Scriptures are TRUTH but you must rely on "It is written", Prayer AND the Holy Spirit to SEE

Your approach here is to seek understanding BEFORE it is granted to you from Above

Hebrews 11:3 - By faith we understand.........
 

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The Holy Scriptures are TRUTH but you must rely on "It is written", Prayer AND the Holy Spirit to SEE

Your approach here is to seek understanding BEFORE it is granted to you from Above

Hebrews 11:3 - By faith we understand.........
So, this is your way of saying you can't answer any of his questions? Or you're saying you need to have a special, secret knowledge of scripture that can't be explained? You really think we're going to buy this nonsense? Scripture was written in order to be understood. It is not this big mystery that you are trying to make it out to be. The fact that you can't even answer one of his questions is very telling.

You clearly don't have the gift of teaching as you are seemingly unable to clearly explain what anything in scripture means as a good Bible teacher does.
 
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So, this is your way of saying you can't answer any of his questions? Or you're saying you need to have a special, secret knowledge of scripture that can't be explained? You really think we're going to buy this nonsense? Scripture was written in order to be understood. It is not this big mystery that you are trying to make it out to be. The fact that you can't even answer one of his questions is very telling.

You clearly don't have the gift of teaching as you are seemingly unable to clearly explain what anything in scripture means as a good Bible teacher does.
You and @WPM have been given the TRUTH from the Holy Scriptures.

If you do not believe the words of God then you remain stuck where you are right now.
 

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The Holy Scriptures are TRUTH but you must rely on "It is written", Prayer AND the Holy Spirit to SEE

Your approach here is to seek understanding BEFORE it is granted to you from Above

Hebrews 11:3 - By faith we understand.........
You are avoiding the obvious. Premillennialism completely lacks corroboration. That is why you cannot answer these questions. That is because it is unbiblical.
 
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You and @WPM have been given the TRUTH from the Holy Scriptures.

If you do not believe the words of God then you remain stuck where you are right now.
No, you have your opinion of Revelation 20 contradicting numerous climatic passages in the rest of the Word of God.
 
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You are avoiding the obvious. Premillennialism completely lacks corroboration. That is why you cannot answer these questions. That is because it is unbiblical.
Corroboration was PROVEN = from the Mouth of God = Genesis , Gospel , 1 Thess 4:13-18 , 1 Cor ch15 , Zech ch14, Revelation

Your questions have been answered = you do not like or submit to God's Answers = "It is written"

Stop wasting time trying to convince yourself that Adam did not live 930 LITERAL years = only 70 years short of 1,000 LITERAL years

Stop wasting precious time saying "there is no corroboration between Adam/930 literal years and Christ/1,000 Literal years.

Begin a New Journey with Christ and seek with all your heart this = John 14:15-18 , Acts chapters 1 & 2
 
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