Is America Becoming A Force For Evil In The World?

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Chief Justice W O Douglas of the SCOTUS wrote a book in the early sixties "America Challenged"...in it he made a lot of comparisons between the Communist system and the capitalist system for reaching the third world nations. For example when dealing with these underdeveloped and poor nations the USA chose an arrogant approach..go there, make them speak and think "American"...take our Cadillacs, coke machines, steaks etc, and live our lifestyle, and let these poor people try and adopt our lifestyle..instead of bring them seeds to plant food crops we bring them fighter aircraft, guns and bombs..to fight whom? One particular quote he made was...these multi million dollar fighter aircraft are taking off beside mud huts where people are dying of starvation"...they need food not bombs..The communists on the otherhand learn the local language, eat the same food, plant crops and generally blend in with the population...
At this particular time daycares in America were non existent, and Americans and westerners mocked the USSR and China for their necessity for both parent to work, and put their babies/children in "daycares"...guess what? Within 15 years the western world was experiencing the same situation, and it has escalated ever since...so who actually won the "cold war"...Krushschev figured he could invade the USA and west because he figured they were weak and no resolve for war..but President Kennedy outsmarted Krushschev and diplomacy won out over war...but the Chinese are much more patient thant the Russians..their philosphy was to gradually take over the US and the west even if it takes a hundred years....guess what? That is exactly what is happening on all fronts, very quietly...the western countries including the US have adopted every plank in the Communist manifesto platform, and are in different stages of implementation..throw in some pages from the Nazi playbook, and this is what is now bringing the west down...but because of arrogance, ignorance and corruption the leaders do not see this, and are walking right into the Chinese trap....interesting times ahead!
 
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heretoeternity said:
Chief Justice W O Douglas of the SCOTUS wrote a book in the early sixties "America Challenged"...in it he made a lot of comparisons between the Communist system and the capitalist system for reaching the third world nations. For example when dealing with these underdeveloped and poor nations the USA chose an arrogant approach..go there, make them speak and think "American"...take our Cadillacs, coke machines, steaks etc, and live our lifestyle, and let these poor people try and adopt our lifestyle..instead of bring them seeds to plant food crops we bring them fighter aircraft, guns and bombs..to fight whom? One particular quote he made was...these multi million dollar fighter aircraft are taking off beside mud huts where people are dying of starvation"...they need food not bombs..The communists on the otherhand learn the local language, eat the same food, plant crops and generally blend in with the population...
At this particular time daycares in America were non existent, and Americans and westerners mocked the USSR and China for their necessity for both parent to work, and put their babies/children in "daycares"...guess what? Within 15 years the western world was experiencing the same situation, and it has escalated ever since...so who actually won the "cold war"...Krushschev figured he could invade the USA and west because he figured they were weak and no resolve for war..but President Kennedy outsmarted Krushschev and diplomacy won out over war...but the Chinese are much more patient thant the Russians..their philosphy was to gradually take over the US and the west even if it takes a hundred years....guess what? That is exactly what is happening on all fronts, very quietly...the western countries including the US have adopted every plank in the Communist manifesto platform, and are in different stages of implementation..throw in some pages from the Nazi playbook, and this is what is now bringing the west down...but because of arrogance, ignorance and corruption the leaders do not see this, and are walking right into the Chinese trap....interesting times ahead!
Heretoeternity: Good post. Excellent points. History does not lie, though many who call themselves patriots would disagree.

What we are witness to in America is change on many fronts. Heretoeternity has referred to the cultural changes. These changes are divisive and destructive in that they tear down old processes, traditions and laws without replacing them with better ones. The increased use of drugs, for example, has become so insidious that entire urban areas are restricted from law enforcement. The "war on drugs" has been abandoned for another war we cannot win, the "war on terror".

America is in the midst of Culture War and we are losing it.

What are the ramifications of cultural war? Does it mean only that Sunday dinner will be refried bean tacos instead of pork roast (because meat is too expensive)? Or does it mean that increased restrictions for 'security reasons' will be forced upon us? Will we see a time when none of us will be allowed outside after 11pm under pain of 'police street justice' and all that action implies?

For an interesting read I suggest "CULTURE OF TERROR - the collapse of America" by Eugene E. Narrett.

Prof. Narret uses literature, history and politics to examine America's descent into shallow moral apathy and political divisiveness.

It might be a good idea to recommend this material to your pastor as well.

and that's me, hollering from the choir loft...
 

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What we are witness to in America is change on many fronts. Heretoeternity has referred to the cultural changes. These changes are divisive and destructive in that they tear down old processes, traditions and laws without replacing them with better ones. The increased use of drugs, for example, has become so insidious that entire urban areas are restricted from law enforcement. The "war on drugs" has been abandoned for another war we cannot win, the "war on terror".
I served in the USAF during "the war on drugs" though I got no closer to it than a radio receiver site in Southern California, changing frequencies for communications to AWACS aircraft. Reagan was president, his wife was telling America's youth to "just say no", and the CIA was financing black ops by supporting drug runners (which reportedly was going on at least as far back as the Vietnam war and using a civilian air force called Air America.)
I live in a suburban town in New Jersey and I've been told that there is a booming heroin trade going on in quiet little homes as close as a block or two from my own house, but is this really something new or are we just better informed than we were in the past. When I was a child, back in the sixties, there were already documentaries portraying the evils of drug abuse, and there would have been no point to such films if there weren't already a significant problem (I don't believe that WASP politicians were all that concerned about what was going on just in inner city ghettos.)
I'm already convinced that "the war on drugs" was really the war about who controls the trade and gets the profits rather than any attempt to stop drug abuse. (What does Afghanistan really have to offer the west other than the largest poppy fields in the world?)
In New Jersey we have a governor who boldly denounces the legalization of Marijuana for even medicinal purposes, but its well known that New Jersey has had a long standing problem with organized crime influence in politics (that was the reason for the creation of the State's grand jury system) and I can tell you anecdotally that the Mob has control of the market for that drug in the state, the drug is readily available to people who indulge in it, and the price is kept high by keeping the substance illegal. When legalization is completely formalized, there are already authorized growers, distributers, and a list of authorized doctors to prescribe it. Fortunes were made the same way with alcohol during prohibition, and some of our most prominent political families gained their fortune during those days and by such trade.
I work for a government agency which may be somewhat unique in its charter and jurisdiction, but I've been on the job long enough to see that management is far more concerned with appearances than with effectiveness, and in the end, its all about who gets the money (my employer is a metro area money cow and the tremendous revenues it generates, which are meant to stimulate the local economy, tend to stimulate only the economy of individuals that contribute campaign funds to local politics or are insiders in the local "good old boy" network. Even the building in which my shop is located, became the location by order of a state executive that held an interest in the property. These things are not unique to the Metro area, or even to this nation, but it wasn't the rest of the world that corrupted our nation. Corruption is inherent in the system of this world, the result of our fallen nature, but it hasn't been possible until the last few decades for people to see individuals "caught in the act " in the media or on U tube and similar venues for the dissemination of information.
There's no doubt that the Lord sovereignly placed our nation in a position of geo-political power, but He did as much for Babylon and it wasn't because the Babylonians were more righteous than the other nations. The sword exists for the sake of justice and God wields it as He wills, but the nation that rejects Him or refuses to acknowledge His sovereignty is one that is destined to fall and since God's justice is equitable, the fall of such a nation is usually as violent as the violence it has shown others. I'm inclined to believe that this will happen sooner rather than later and I'm grateful that I've aged beyond usefulness for military service since its relieved me of the necessity of taking sides in a conflict which God has stacked against us.
 

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The corruption does indeed run very deep in every facet of business and government...it appears this is part of God's judgement on America and indeed most of planet earth..He withdraws His divine protection when nations turn their back on Him, and allows satan to control things..because it appears what the people want...God, throughout the Bible has also used other people in His judgement against His people..look what the Israelis went through..to the point of losing their country for almost 2000 years...rocky road ahead for people on planet earth and in particular western countries including the USA who God has richly blessed in the past...it is over!
 

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Michael V Pardo said:
I served in the USAF during "the war on drugs" though I got no closer to it than a radio receiver site in Southern California, changing frequencies for communications to AWACS aircraft. Reagan was president, his wife was telling America's youth to "just say no", and the CIA was financing black ops by supporting drug runners (which reportedly was going on at least as far back as the Vietnam war and using a civilian air force called Air America.)
I live in a suburban town in New Jersey and I've been told that there is a booming heroin trade going on in quiet little homes as close as a block or two from my own house, but is this really something new or are we just better informed than we were in the past. When I was a child, back in the sixties, there were already documentaries portraying the evils of drug abuse, and there would have been no point to such films if there weren't already a significant problem (I don't believe that WASP politicians were all that concerned about what was going on just in inner city ghettos.)
I'm already convinced that "the war on drugs" was really the war about who controls the trade and gets the profits rather than any attempt to stop drug abuse. (What does Afghanistan really have to offer the west other than the largest poppy fields in the world?)
In New Jersey we have a governor who boldly denounces the legalization of Marijuana for even medicinal purposes, but its well known that New Jersey has had a long standing problem with organized crime influence in politics (that was the reason for the creation of the State's grand jury system) and I can tell you anecdotally that the Mob has control of the market for that drug in the state, the drug is readily available to people who indulge in it, and the price is kept high by keeping the substance illegal. When legalization is completely formalized, there are already authorized growers, distributers, and a list of authorized doctors to prescribe it. Fortunes were made the same way with alcohol during prohibition, and some of our most prominent political families gained their fortune during those days and by such trade.
I work for a government agency which may be somewhat unique in its charter and jurisdiction, but I've been on the job long enough to see that management is far more concerned with appearances than with effectiveness, and in the end, its all about who gets the money (my employer is a metro area money cow and the tremendous revenues it generates, which are meant to stimulate the local economy, tend to stimulate only the economy of individuals that contribute campaign funds to local politics or are insiders in the local "good old boy" network. Even the building in which my shop is located, became the location by order of a state executive that held an interest in the property. These things are not unique to the Metro area, or even to this nation, but it wasn't the rest of the world that corrupted our nation. Corruption is inherent in the system of this world, the result of our fallen nature, but it hasn't been possible until the last few decades for people to see individuals "caught in the act " in the media or on U tube and similar venues for the dissemination of information.
There's no doubt that the Lord sovereignly placed our nation in a position of geo-political power, but He did as much for Babylon and it wasn't because the Babylonians were more righteous than the other nations. The sword exists for the sake of justice and God wields it as He wills, but the nation that rejects Him or refuses to acknowledge His sovereignty is one that is destined to fall and since God's justice is equitable, the fall of such a nation is usually as violent as the violence it has shown others. I'm inclined to believe that this will happen sooner rather than later and I'm grateful that I've aged beyond usefulness for military service since its relieved me of the necessity of taking sides in a conflict which God has stacked against us.
Good points, especially about divine use of earthly power to execute judgment.

The Biblical position is that God uses great earthly powers and empires like a rod to punish and to judge those who violate His commandments. The powers that execute judgments do so without knowledge that they are being manipulated by Heaven. When their usefulness is complete the Biblical message is that God 'breaks the rod over his knee'.

America is now being broken. The real question is what happens after the fact. Will the people of this land humble themselves before God and repent of their sins and wickedness (thus allowing the rod to bud again), or will they continue in defiance and be shattered without hope of future greatness?

I am greatly disturbed by the general attitude that America is exceptional and that truth, however harsh and unlovely, is forbidden to the public eye as well as private conversation. No true patriot will ever cast aspersions upon the flag or the government it represents - even if such conclusions are deserved and just. Is it seditious or is it patriotic to criticize Federal policy?

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This last week I heard John MacArthur give a "timely" message about the Supreme court decision to affirm the rights of "gay couples" to be married, in which he named the highest court in the country to be given over to a reprobate mind, and also declared this as an act of God's judgment upon the nation (as in Romans chapter 1,) but I had to ask myself, "Wasn't it the supreme court that legitimized the murder of unborn innocents decades ago?"
We've been under judgment for quite a while now, but the question is whether the Lord's intention is simply to allow the nation to die a death of slow decay, or to remove our influence all at once, as He did with the Babylonian empire.
I think it notable that the nation which we fought covertly and by proxy in South East Asia and since the Korean war, is also the nation which has been dumping the bulk of its annual revenues into its military, despite the fact that they've never demonstrated any open imperial interests or national aggression for hundreds of years (their interest in South East Asia had more to do with rice production and its use than the spread of political ideology.)
My current daily readings in scripture are still wading through the book of Ezekiel (which I don't recommend as devotional reading) but I noticed for the first time in the passages about Gog and Magog, that Gog is called the " prince" (or chief prince in at least one translation) of (Rosh) Meshech and Tubal (or Tuval) and is summoned by God for judgment with his armies for the purpose of God being glorified in the eyes of Israel. Its also interesting that Gog's armies are identified as a horde on horseback and the principle weapon mentioned is the "bow". For the first time in my mind this passage brought to mind Revelation chapter 6 (verses 1 and 2):
1. Now I saw when the Lamb opened one of the seals; and I heard one of the four living creatures saying with a voice like thunder, "Come and see.''
2. And I looked, and behold, a white horse. And he who sat on it had a bow; and a crown was given to him, and he went out conquering and to conquer.
While the bow was one of the more effective weapons widely in use prior to the invention of fire arms, historically the only "horde" that typically fought effectively upon horseback and with a bow were the Mongols of the Asian steppes (the Mongol descendants of the American plains used similar tactics in their warfare as well.) Now, let me think, which modern nation includes Mongolia and the remnant of its' peoples?
What does any of this have to do with our nation? First you have to ask yourself "where is the bulk of our national debt?" Also you should ask, "which nation threatened us when the government came close to defaulting on our debt because of an impasse upon the national budget and not all that long ago?"
One interesting fact that I learned about from our media within the last few years is that China, in spite of its massive population, has a problem similar to the United States' baby boomer generation, which is an aging population with an insufficient labor force to provide for it (there's a reason that many of our politicians are in favor of immigration amnesty and other policies to provide a cheap labor force and this is pretty much it.)
There is no good reason for the Chinese to destroy our nation in thermonuclear warfare (considering their investment in us), but there are many reasons why their government might consider invasion as a means to secure their investments (considering that their real need is a sufficient labor force to provide for the needs of their own people and a rich supply of food stuffs for provision in a world with an unstable and rapidly changing climate.)
Our national policy makers tend to count on the personal greed of big investors in the east to continue to build a western style economy of crass consumerism in Asia, but I think that they've failed to understand the culture of the Asian peoples (the Chinese are certainly motivated greatly by money and wealth as is the rest of the world, but they are also greatly influenced by their tradition, community, and moral duty, which we in the west have largely abandoned.)
Can an entire nation be blinded by the deceitfulness of riches? National debt is not wealth. National resources are useless to a people unwilling to exploit them. National pride is sin at worst and self deception at best. While military might is useless when a people lacks the resolve to use it to protect what they possess and prefers change at any cost. As a people we give great lip service to the notions of freedom and liberty, but our liberties have been eroded slowly and surely in the name of national security and of civil liberty itself, even as we move inexorably to a more highly stratified society with only two classes, the rulers and the ruled. As a nation, we're primed for disaster, and the more silent world power, the one that's been preparing for such a time, is prepared to protect their investments.
So much for conjecture. The scripture is more concerned with history as it relates to God's holy people (though this includes genuine believers regardless of where they live) so its difficult if not impossible to draw any solid conclusions from the prophetic writings about the fate of our own nation, yet I find it somewhat reassuring that there is a larger population of Jews resident in the United States than in the state of Israel and the Lord is certainly not finished with them.
 

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The USA, like all previous empires is decaying from within, and will collapse, once God fully withdraws His hand of protection on the country...satan is mostly in charge of the USA and, indeed, the entire planet...so rocky road ahead on planet earth!
 

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Michael V Pardo said:
I'm already convinced that "the war on drugs" was really the war about who controls the trade and gets the profits rather than any attempt to stop drug abuse.
Worth repeating. It's time we stopped looking at propaganda (another little trick we learned from people we once derided and fought against!) and looked at the fact that people have been using intoxicants from the beginning of time.

It is not a sin to get high. It is a sin to neglect and abuse one's family, and that doesn't depend on a person being under the influence of a drug... drunk or sober, abuse and neglect is immoral...

I also believe that there isn't MORE drug use... we just now have increased ability to stick our noses into the private lives of our neighbors. And the sin of self-righteousness (pride) causes these nosy neighbors to make laws against the behavior instead of leading their lost neighbors to salvation and sanctification. It's easier... our hands don't get dirty when we vote for oppressive laws instead of reaching out to them in agape love...

Then we declare war... not on drugs (that's propaganda)... the war is against people... our own people... and maybe it is time we called it a CIVIL WAR instead of the euphemistic "DRUG WAR"... because that's what it is... a war against our own neighbors... despicable!
 

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I believe it is a sin to get drunk or high. Not because of how it makes you act, but for what it does to the mind.

I'm unsure what it exactly does to the mind, but I assume it hinders the work of the Holy Spirit.
 

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I believe it is a sin to get drunk or high. Not because of how it makes you act, but for what it does to the mind.

I'm unsure what it exactly does to the mind, but I assume it hinders the work of the Holy Spirit.
Drunkenness is indeed a sin... But there is no evidence in the Bible that God considers drinking, and feeling its effects, a sin. Drunkenness is a chronic condition, and it is also an altered mental state that certainly inhibits the Holy Spirit's work on our souls. Leviticus 10:9

But there IS a difference between "high" and "drunk"... the latter is drinking to excess. The Bible is clear on that. Psalm 104:14-15 vs Isaiah 5:11

People can remain responsible and make sound decisions while under the influence of a drug. We do it all the time... caffeine, pain-killers, anti-depressants, cold medicines, etc.

Jesus drank, yet he did not sin. Matthew 11:19

He also made sure that people already high had more. John 2:10-11
 

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lforrest said:
I believe it is a sin to get drunk or high. Not because of how it makes you act, but for what it does to the mind.

I'm unsure what it exactly does to the mind, but I assume it hinders the work of the Holy Spirit.
Having been saved out of a back ground that included alcohol and drug abuse I believe that I can tell you that intoxicants may make a person more susceptible to spiritual influences of a fallen nature. That's the reason that alcohol has long been referred to as "spirits." A fellow named Carlos Castaneda wrote a series of popular and supposedly non fiction books (back in the 1970s) about his experiences with a Yaqui Indian "brujo" (sorcerer) who used hallucinogens to make contact with "allies" (familiar spirits). This has been common practice among sorcerers throughout history, which is why the word translated as sorcery from the Greek is the root word for drug use also. Ancient sorcerer's used drugs for mystical experience and also sold potions for various purposes, including poisons for killing people, which probably has something to do with the death penalty we find under the law for sorcery. I've also heard the personal testimony of a former South American Brujo who received the gospel (on an episode of the radio show "focus on the family") who talked about the spirits that he had regular contact, about how they considered Jesus Christ an enemy, and about how they were migrating from South America to the United States for reasons unknown. Most people crave spiritual experience, but in their fallen state are at enmity with God, so the fallen ones have no problem giving them false hope or more commonly despair through the use of lies and fallen spiritual experience. Drug use is not a prerequisite for such experience, but does make the mind more susceptible. These things being said, a person who has committed their soul to Christ may still be attacked by such fallen spiritual entities (typically through blasphemies and casting doubt upon the person of the Lord) but Jesus' sheep can tell the difference between the voice of their master and that of another, and have that ultimate protection of the Spirit of God within them.
Keep in mind that even over the counter or prescribed medications can have an affect upon thought processes which may cause despair (suicidal thoughts or tendencies in the commercials.) I believe that God created all things and called them good, so natural drug substances must have "good" uses, but our fallen natures like to run with sensuality and pleasant experience and so we maximize the affect by concentrating the natural substances into more harmful and potentially lethal substances, perverting the purpose for which God intended them.
 

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...I believe that God created all things and called them good, so natural drug substances must have "good" uses, but our fallen natures like to run with sensuality and pleasant experience and so we maximize the affect by concentrating the natural substances into more harmful and potentially lethal substances, perverting the purpose for which God intended them.
In Romans 14, it is clear that all things we ingest are good, except to those who think it evil. If drinking or doing a drug causes you to revert back to days when you conjured spirits with sorcerers, then it would be a sin for you to do them. It would also be a sin for me to do those things in front of you if I know that it would cause you to revert back to a sinful past...

The problem lies in trying to make something ingested a sin for someone who does not consider it sin, nor does it cause that person to revert back to a sinful past. Romans 14 says we are not to pass judgment on those who ingest or those who choose not to ingest...

As for making laws about drug use (including OTC's, cannabis, alcohol, nicotine, caffeine, etc.) there is no Biblical precedent or mandate to do so. Our focus should be on pointing people to Jesus, who will then give the Holy Spirit to them for their sanctification and purification... God Himself will tell them whether drugs or alcohol use would be a sin for them. As Christians (especially American Christians), we get so focused on eradicating sin from our society that we forget that only God can do that.

“If you say, ‘Would there were no wine’ because of the drunkards, then you must say, going on by degrees, ‘Would there were no steel,’ because of the murderers, ‘Would there were no night,’ because of the thieves, ‘Would there were no light,’ because of the informers, and ‘Would there were no women,’ because of adultery.” – St. John Chrysostom
 
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6 and September 9 in Japan, the days of the memory of the atomic bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki when the US destroyed about 200 thousand civilians and tens of thousands have died from radiation sickness.
All sensible people consider it a war crime of the US government.
 

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Andrey son of Lion said:
6 and September 9 in Japan, the days of the memory of the atomic bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki when the US destroyed about 200 thousand civilians and tens of thousands have died from radiation sickness.
All sensible people consider it a war crime of the US government.
How many innocent lives need to be snuffed out to constitute a war crime? The numbers you've quoted are a drop in the bucket as compared to legal abortions in the US alone. Its been 30 years since I served in the US military, but that was still 40 years after the end of WWII, and I still met other servicemen who were stationed for a while in Japan and celebrated December 7th, by slapping Japanese citizens at random (on Pearl Harbor day.) We all have different sensibilities with regard to right and wrong, especially at the national level.
I personally believe that the bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki were both brutal and unnecessary, but perhaps that demonstration of terrible destruction is what brought the US and Soviet Union back from the brink of destruction during what we refer to as "the Cuban missile crisis." The bombing of Dresden in Germany prior to the surrender of that nation was performed with conventional weapons but proved every bit as destructive as the latter attacks upon Japan. Dresden was by no means a military target, but the bombing was a display of military might intended to terrorize the population and I'm sure that there were more than a few survivors of the blitz on London that would consider the attack on Dresden justified.
God raised up the most terrible of nations to bring judgment down upon His own chosen people while in their rebellion to His law. The Assyrians were by no means righteous people, neither were the Babylonians, and neither are we. "There is none righteous, no not one." There are unrighteous and wicked people who believe themselves righteous because they are a law unto themselves. There are unrighteous and wicked people who believe themselves righteous because they imagine themselves to be obedient before God (and are self deceived). And there are unrighteous and wicked people who are brought to a realization of that truth through the conviction of the Holy Spirit and turn to our Savior for His salvation, but there is none righteous in themselves, only those that have been accounted as righteous for their faith in the righteous One who shed His own blood for our redemption from this fallen existence upon this fallen world. In the words of the famous philosopher of the American press, Pogo, "We have met the enemy and he is us."
With the WWII generation dying out, don't be surprised if someone decides to make another example of some poor and unsuspecting civilians through the use of a nuke on a non military target, but its hard to imagine the response of the world now when people seem to be more concerned with the next rising star in the music industry or sports industry than with thousands dying from malnutrition, disease, legal abortion, attempted genocide, suicide, and every evil under the sun. If the US ceased to exist tomorrow, another nation would certainly take its place in a New York minute, and that just isn't going to change until the Lord returns to receive His kingdom in the glory that is His from the foundation of the world.
 
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If you look from the 90s, the US government officially supports those who are against Christians. For example, it supported the Albanian Muslims in Kosovo, who waged terrorism against the Christian population. They supported the Arab countries opposition forces in their fight against those Muslim leaders who were kept under the protection of the local Christians.
In all Arab countries, supported by the US and several European countries the opposition forces made terror against local Christians, often with physical destruction.
But remember the events of a century ago. Mentioned that US officials and CM reacted approvingly to the revolution in Russia. Before it was a long smear campaign against the Russian tsarism, despite the fact that the tsarist regime was a huge progress towards the humanization and a number of questions were more humane than the so-called advanced countries. It appears that the main blame Russian royal power was that it protected the Christian faith. It is only then the United States and Europe were against communist Russia, mainly because it became an independent country, but in the early days of the Russian Revolution, US officials and European countries supported the revolutionaries, who soon began to mass terror against the Christian church.
 

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the United States is a great country! And I believe that God has shed light and blessings on us! But to say that we were "perfect" and are now just becoming "evil or vile" I think is a little delusional. The US has been an oppressor to minority groups for years (slavery, Jim Crow, Civil RIghts) and this was not only direct towards African Americans but to American Jews, Chinese, Italian, Irish, Hispanic, etc. And not to forget the Native Americans! Yet despite those blemishes we have overcame in certain areas and improved in other areas. Are there still major problems facing our nation, YES and these problems if not handled could be disastrous! Yet to say that American is going down the tubes I say no, we may have to adapt, change and readjust but we will continue on! America was never this perfect state or nation and suffered like all nations due the effects of the human condition yet despite our mess God has used individuals in America to cause positive and righteous change in in the earth and He will continue! But I do agree that the Church here in America is loosing its influence and in some cases credibility and some of that is self inflicted but we as believers in Christ here in AMerica need to be praying and walking out our faith before they try to take our public confession away from us!
 
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A group of wealthy people who serve consciously for evil, use of the potential and wealth, created by the American people, to strengthen and spread evil throughout the world.
Many ordinary Americans have not interest what the American political elite makes in the world, as it subjects its influence other states, captivates and seduces, and overthrows and destroyed disobedient men.

Politicians and heads of US corporations used by the CIA and private military companies, to prepare terrorists to undermine other states.
I remember thirty years ago, the US president announced the main task of combating terrorism. Since terrorism is even more extended in the world.
The US government uses terrorism as a pretext to restrict the freedom of its citizens and to exercise more and more control over them.
 

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"restrict the freedom of its citizens" - yes, that was clear already one week after 9/11 - the patriot act was already written and ready to go live. Lots of pages and amazing timing. But most didnt notice. Why? Maybe thats why: "With less than 5 percent of the world’s population, Americans consume 80 percent of the entire global supply of pain killers" - well no surprise here, everybody wants to stay calm, somehow.