Bibliolatry: Worship/knowledge of the book MORE than the author
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No, but it loses the personal power of hearing it directly from God.
Look at what is happening in Iran right now. Jesus is appearing in person to Muslims. (some 90% of new converts)
Bibles are hard to come by. A personal encounter with Christ is life-changing.
quietthinker
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The greatness of ordinariness is only appreciated by the enlightened. Eyes that see and ears which hear are awakened to this fact.
Paul puts it this way, 'But God chose the foolish things of the world to shame the wise; God chose the weak things of the world to shame the strong.
Do God's commandments lose their authority because they were written on stone after having been spoken?
Well, since they were never address to say Matthew in Alabama, the 10 commandments don't apply to me. They were given to the children of Israel.
They could never keep it together.
They killed the Messiah, the one whom held the 10 commandments by doing the first two that we probably never did at first.
Loved God, and loved his neighbor. (At the age of idk... 7-8 years old I remember a scene in my memory of fighting this kid cause he took my gameboy and dr. pepper and boy was I mad...)
Anyway... Later on in life I realized that you know being angry and stuff gets you into trouble but I still get angry...
But Jesus took care these outburst and things i did in my past so that I could have new life in him - though I will struggle with myself until I die - but buy his Spirit he can help me do the heavenly things only he can do...
Anyway, that's beside the point right?
Those 10 commandments were never written to me... they were written to the people of Isreal... Ive read the notions concerning it. So can anyone who picks up a bible and reads it. Jesus came to fulfill the Torah, and did so by those two things I mentioned prior. He loved God and loved his neighbor... unlike ourselves - but also like his own people his own people -- Israel the 10, or 12 Tribes which are by virtue those all from Abraham's loins... those were the people whom were given the commandments, and continued to live by them until the consumation of that whole age...
When sacrifices, and priesthoods and their genealogy were all burnt up and done away with. That's why here in Alabama, we never were part of that culture of the hebrews were we were out there going to the temple and sacrificing and on and on, even after the fact of Jesus coming back after his ascension.
So the 10 commandments hold no power over me... they never have. The only power (call it the Darkness) over me that has ever existed is the want and desire to get someone back if they were to get me back, which is much everyones own case...
We are constantly fighting ourselves - our desires and the things that pull us away. (Whatever that is for you I don't know.) That is a personal thing.
Israel had the same problem and they could never keep things straight. So Jesus was sent... in order to set us free... and that way we can live by his spirit - and the notion for us by the spirit reminds us to --- love God and love neighbor...
Though in transparency just like with being clear before your own heart with God - you cut off people you don't want around you, and you also need to say no sometimes to people and other than that over all things think people need to think for themselves at the end of the day.
Well, since they were never address to say Matthew in Alabama, the 10 commandments don't apply to me. They were given to the children of Israel.
They could never keep it together.
They killed the Messiah, the one whom held the 10 commandments by doing the first two that we probably never did at first.
Loved God, and loved his neighbor. (At the age of idk... 7-8 years old I remember a scene in my memory of fighting this kid cause he took my gameboy and dr. pepper and boy was I mad...)
Anyway... Later on in life I realized that you know being angry and stuff gets you into trouble but I still get angry...
But Jesus took care these outburst and things i did in my past so that I could have new life in him - though I will struggle with myself until I die - but buy his Spirit he can help me do the heavenly things only he can do...
Anyway, that's beside the point right?
Those 10 commandments were never written to me... they were written to the people of Isreal... Ive read the notions concerning it. So can anyone who picks up a bible and reads it. Jesus came to fulfill the Torah, and did so by those two things I mentioned prior. He loved God and loved his neighbor... unlike ourselves - but also like his own people his own people -- Israel the 10, or 12 Tribes which are by virtue those all from Abraham's loins... those were the people whom were given the commandments, and continued to live by them until the consumation of that whole age...
When sacrifices, and priesthoods and their genealogy were all burnt up and done away with. That's why here in Alabama, we never were part of that culture of the hebrews were we were out there going to the temple and sacrificing and on and on, even after the fact of Jesus coming back after his ascension.
(Just a side note - taking time to read all those laws and things tend to break people down... they see they are not good enough and they want to try to change things in their lives to make themselves think they are closer to God in so type or way because of something they may do... or whatever - when it comes to you and your personal relationship with God - that is a personal relationship but he wont never steer you into to doing evil.)
There may be no reason to change who you are as your own person but those who are willingly to give up things for themselves and what not should be proud of themselves - while not comparing themselves to others - a very helpful reminder.
Because it's going to be the Lord Yeshua, and the Spirt of himself within you that helps you perform the heavenly acts being kind, and faithful, and gentle, and longsuffering and the like (Galatians 5.)
Anyone can act kind. That doesn't mean anything. When it's done by the Spirit of Christ - it's a whole life of kind if you ask me.
So the 10 commandments hold no power over me... they never have. The only power (call it the Darkness) over me that has ever existed is the want and desire to get someone back if they were to get me back, which is much everyones own case...
We are constantly fighting ourselves - our desires and the things that pull us away. (Whatever that is for you I don't know.) That is a personal thing.
Israel had the same problem and they could never keep things straight. So Jesus was sent... in order to set us free... and that way we can live by his spirit - and the notion for us by the spirit reminds us to --- love God and love neighbor...
Though in transparency just like with being clear before your own heart with God - you cut off people you don't want around you, and you also need to say no sometimes to people and other than that over all things think people need to think for themselves at the end of the day.
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We are hearing directly from God through His written Word! How would any man know Christ without first hearing the gospel written in the Bible proclaimed unto them that all may know Him?
Romans 10:8-16 (KJV) But what saith it? The word is nigh thee, even in thy mouth, and in thy heart: that is, the word of faith, which we preach; That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation. For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed. For there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek: for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him. For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved. How then shall they call on him in whom they have not believed? and how shall they believe in him of whom they have not heard? and how shall they hear without a preacher? And how shall they preach, except they be sent? as it is written, How beautiful are the feet of them that preach the gospel of peace, and bring glad tidings of good things! But they have not all obeyed the gospel. For Esaias saith, Lord, who hath believed our report?
When I run to the Bible for help, I am running to God! I would not know the gospel of the Kingdom of God if it was not written. Because now it is through His written Word that God communicates with man. That's why He instructs us to KNOW His Word, and to study His Word, that we may KNOW HIM!
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Even Jesus in the flesh relied upon that which is written in THE BOOK.
Luke 4:17-19 (KJV) And there was delivered unto him the book of the prophet Esaias. And when he had opened the book, he found the place where it was written, The Spirit of the Lord is upon me, because he hath anointed me to preach the gospel to the poor; he hath sent me to heal the brokenhearted, to preach deliverance to the captives, and recovering of sight to the blind, to set at liberty them that are bruised, To preach the acceptable year of the Lord.
How can we PREACH the Word except the Word be written in THE BOOK? We preach what is written that we do not corrupt the Word of God, for it is life or death depending upon how the written Word (gospel of the Kingdom of God) is received.
2 Timothy 4:2 (KJV) Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine.
2 Corinthians 2:16-17 (KJV) To the one we are the savour of death unto death; and to the other the savour of life unto life. And who is sufficient for these things? For we are not as many, which corrupt the word of God: but as of sincerity, but as of God, in the sight of God speak we in Christ.
Luke 4:17-19 (KJV) And there was delivered unto him the book of the prophet Esaias. And when he had opened the book, he found the place where it was written, The Spirit of the Lord is upon me, because he hath anointed me to preach the gospel to the poor; he hath sent me to heal the brokenhearted, to preach deliverance to the captives, and recovering of sight to the blind, to set at liberty them that are bruised, To preach the acceptable year of the Lord.
How can we PREACH the Word except the Word be written in THE BOOK? We preach what is written that we do not corrupt the Word of God, for it is life or death depending upon how the written Word (gospel of the Kingdom of God) is received.
2 Timothy 4:2 (KJV) Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine.
2 Corinthians 2:16-17 (KJV) To the one we are the savour of death unto death; and to the other the savour of life unto life. And who is sufficient for these things? For we are not as many, which corrupt the word of God: but as of sincerity, but as of God, in the sight of God speak we in Christ.
I've never heard His voice through physical hearing; however, I do hear Him speak to my spirit (heart/mind) through His Spirit in me.
1 Corinthians 2:9-11 (KJV) But as it is written, Eye hath not seen, nor ear heard, neither have entered into the heart of man, the things which God hath prepared for them that love him. But God hath revealed them unto us by his Spirit: for the Spirit searcheth all things, yea, the deep things of God. For what man knoweth the things of a man, save the spirit of man which is in him? even so the things of God knoweth no man, but the Spirit of God.
Romans 8:14-16 (KJV) For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God. For ye have not received the spirit of bondage again to fear; but ye have received the Spirit of adoption, whereby we cry, Abba, Father. The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God:
The Bible is THE SOURCE, His spoken word in written form as He has commanded, that we might KNOW Him!
Why is the BIBLE, THE WRITTEN WORD of GOD THE SOURCE for LIFE? We read: Romans 10:17 (KJV) So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.
Wick Stick
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Perhaps you should review the meaning of 'directly?' If one sends a messenger, or a letter, that would be 'indirectly.'
GRACE ambassador
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Amen! And Including Many Specific Instructions Of "How To":
Handle The Precious Word Of Life!
Amen?
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And, precious friend(s), Please Be Very Richly Encouraged and Edified
In The Lord Jesus Christ and In His Precious Word Of Truth, Rightly
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The Bible: The BIG Picture
Amen.
The Word of God prior to the canonization of the Bible we now have is found in the writings of the Law and prophets which is what Jesus and the Apostles learned and taught from. Remember the passage I quoted earlier for you? Christ read and taught from the book of Isaiah out of the Word of God that was of Old. The New Testament Scriptures are replete with allusions and verbal parallels from the Old Covenant writings containing the words of God. The Word of God existed through the providence of God as He often told men of Old to write down as He gave them His Word and prophecies.
Luke 4:17-19 (KJV) And there was delivered unto him the book of the prophet Esaias. And when he had opened the book, he found the place where it was written, The Spirit of the Lord is upon me, because he hath anointed me to preach the gospel to the poor; he hath sent me to heal the brokenhearted, to preach deliverance to the captives, and recovering of sight to the blind, to set at liberty them that are bruised, To preach the acceptable year of the Lord.
So you are claiming that "the word of God" in the verse below is the Old Testament?
Therefore: faith comes by hearing and hearing by the old testament?
rwb said:
Why is the BIBLE, THE WRITTEN WORD of GOD THE SOURCE for LIFE?
We read: Romans 10:17 (KJV) So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.
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