Will a Third Temple Be Rebuilt?

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I think the statement it is trying to make is that the prophecies for the second coming of Christ will have a literal fulfillment just as the prophecies for his first did. No need to stretch and imagine all of the metaphoric symbolism some have to use.
Bingo.
 

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I think the statement it is trying to make is that the prophecies for the second coming of Christ will have a literal fulfillment just as the prophecies for his first did. No need to stretch and imagine all of the metaphoric symbolism some have to use.

Assumption is the mother of all errors.

That weak argument of yours sounds persuasive until you actually examine how prophecy works in Scripture.

No one is denying that Christ's Second Coming will be literal. The issue is whether every prophetic detail surrounding His coming must be interpreted in the most woodenly literal way possible. The First Coming itself disproves that assumption.

John the Baptist fulfilled the prophecy concerning Elijah, yet he was not literally Elijah returned from heaven (Matthew 11:14). Jesus is called the Lamb of God, yet He is not a four-legged animal. He is the true Temple, yet He is not a literal stone building. The outpouring of the Spirit at Pentecost fulfilled Joel's prophecy in a way many Jews were not expecting. Even the apostles repeatedly interpreted Old Testament prophecies through the lens of Christ and redemptive fulfillment rather than mere literalism.

The problem with your statement is that it creates a false choice: either a prophecy is fulfilled literally or it is being "stretched" into symbolism. Scripture itself does not operate with that simplistic framework. Biblical prophecy often contains types, shadows, symbols, patterns, and greater fulfillments that are revealed in Christ.

Ironically, those who insist that every prophecy must be fulfilled according to their preferred literal expectations are making the same mistake many first-century Jews made. That is a biblical fact! They expected a certain kind of fulfillment and missed the deeper reality standing right in front of them.

The question is not, "Can God fulfill prophecy literally?" Of course He can and often does. The question is, "How do the inspired New Testament authors interpret those prophecies?" Their interpretation—not our assumptions—is the standard.

Mocking fellow believers with caricatures instead of engaging their actual biblical arguments does not strengthen your position. It merely substitutes ridicule for exegesis.

Selah!
 
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Well would it be Gods temple?
A good question. How could God sanction bringing back animal sacrifices? If they were re instituted how could it be claimed it was God's will?
It wouldn’t effect my view at all, my view is more about what exactly is the temple Paul mentioned
So you believe that a corporate indwelling of the Holy Spirit excludes any need for a literal temple? Do me a favor. Present an interpretation for Rev 11:1-12.
Assumption is the mother of all errors.

That weak argument of yours sounds persuasive until you actually examine how prophecy works in Scripture.

No one is denying that Christ's Second Coming will be literal. The issue is whether every prophetic detail surrounding His coming must be interpreted in the most woodenly literal way possible. The First Coming itself disproves that assumption.

John the Baptist fulfilled the prophecy concerning Elijah, yet he was not literally Elijah returned from heaven (Matthew 11:14). Jesus is called the Lamb of God, yet He is not a four-legged animal. He is the true Temple, yet He is not a literal stone building. The outpouring of the Spirit at Pentecost fulfilled Joel's prophecy in a way many Jews were not expecting. Even the apostles repeatedly interpreted Old Testament prophecies through the lens of Christ and redemptive fulfillment rather than mere literalism.

The problem with your statement is that it creates a false choice: either a prophecy is fulfilled literally or it is being "stretched" into symbolism. Scripture itself does not operate with that simplistic framework. Biblical prophecy often contains types, shadows, symbols, patterns, and greater fulfillments that are revealed in Christ.

Ironically, those who insist that every prophecy must be fulfilled according to their preferred literal expectations are making the same mistake many first-century Jews made. That is a biblical fact! They expected a certain kind of fulfillment and missed the deeper reality standing right in front of them.

The question is not, "Can God fulfill prophecy literally?" Of course He can and often does. The question is, "How do the inspired New Testament authors interpret those prophecies?" Their interpretation—not our assumptions—is the standard.

Mocking fellow believers with caricatures instead of engaging their actual biblical arguments does not strengthen your position. It merely substitutes ridicule for exegesis.

Selah!
Ok, humor me here. Give me a verse by verse interpretation of Rev 11:1-12 so I understand how you see it/
 
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There is no ark, because the covenant was broken in the book of Jeremiah. The temple was burnt up with everything in it. Jeremiah 3:16 says the ark will not be rebuilt and those who worship Him will not need it. Jesus was the last sacrifice and if the Jews start animal sacrifices again, it will be in rebellion to God.

I had a tourist Idea that they should build a working life sized temple somewhere else and make it a steak place to eat.
 
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The Jews don’t recognize Jesus, thus they don’t recognize the true Father

John 8:19: Jesus tells the Pharisees, "You know neither me nor my Father. If you knew me, you would know my Father also."
From their perspective, who are the Jews going to dedicate the temple to ? Who did the Jews dedicate the first two temple to ?
 

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From their perspective, who are the Jews going to dedicate the temple to ? Who did the Jews dedicate the first two temple to ?
Who are the Levitical Priests that will dedicate the temple. They don't have the non- interrupted bloodline anymore, neither God's instructions to rebel against God. By the way, there were 3 temples.
 

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From their perspective, who are the Jews going to dedicate the temple to ? Who did the Jews dedicate the first two temple to ?
It doesn’t matter what their perspective is, if God isn’t who they think He is then it’s not the true Gods temple

John 16:3
They will do such things because they have not known the Father or me.
 

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It doesn’t matter what their perspective is, if God isn’t who they think He is then it’s not the true Gods temple

John 16:3
They will do such things because they have not known the Father or me.
Do you think it will draw God's anger when the Antichrist goes into that temple, sits, claims to have achieved God-hood ?''
 

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Who are the Levitical Priests that will dedicate the temple. They don't have the non- interrupted bloodline anymore, neither God's instructions to rebel against God. By the way, there were 3 temples.
Here are the Temple Institute's Levitical choir singing near the temple mount.

I think the Temple Institute is training some Levitical priests for temple operations in anticipation of a temple being built.

 
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Do you think it will draw God's anger when the Antichrist goes into that temple, sits, claims to have achieved God-hood ?''

Ha. Only in your own head filled with flawed eschatological framework does that scenario unfold the way you imagine. You are assuming that 2 Thessalonians 2 requires a future rebuilt Jewish temple and a man literally sitting in it claiming deity. That is not what the text teaches.

The real problem is that you've already decided what the "temple of God" must mean before examining the broader biblical usage of the temple. Throughout the New Testament, God's temple is repeatedly identified with His Church, not a future stone buildings in Jerusalem.

So your question assumes the very thing that still needs to be proven. You have already decided that the "temple of God" in 2 Thessalonians 2 must be a future rebuilt temple, and then you build an entire prophetic system upon that assumption. Bad move.

But if your interpretation of the temple is wrong, then the whole scenario of the Antichrist marching into a rebuilt Jewish temple and declaring himself God falls apart. And if the foundation is wrong, then everything built upon it is wrong as well.

At that point, you may need to throw away your flawed prophecy charts and start over—reexamining the temple, the two witnesses, the beast, the horns, the seventy weeks, and every other symbol through Scripture itself rather than through the lens of a preconceived dispensational system. A prophetic framework is only as reliable as the assumptions upon which it is built.
 

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Do you think it will draw God's anger when the Antichrist goes into that temple, sits, claims to have achieved God-hood ?''

Yes it did in the past but the temple I believe was the church not a literal temple

Also what Paul describes as the man of lawlessness isn’t Johns description of the antichrist in his epistles
 

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Also what Paul describes as the man of lawlessness isn’t Johns description of the antichrist in his epistles
What verse are you saying "the man of lawlessness" appears. The word "lawlessness" does not appear in the kjv bible.

Yes it did in the past but the temple I believe was the church not a literal temple
2Thessalonians2:4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.

That verse is referring to a literal temple, not a metaphorical temple.
 

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Here are the Temple Institute's Levitical choir singing near the temple mount.

I think the Temple Institute is training some Levitical priests for temple operations in anticipation of a temple being built.

There is no blood line, that is, no genealogy to link to any Levitical priest. Only DNA to the Ashkenazi Jew has a genetic marker to prove Jews are such. All genealogies were destroyed in AD 70. Hear- say doesn't count or family trees. For all we know, you or I could be a Levite at this point.
 

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Are these guys credible? It seems to be starting with the suggestion that a synagogue be placed on the temple mount.


What do you think? @WPM @Spiritual Israelite @Davidpt @Marty fox @Davy @WalterandDebbie @Marilyn C @Anchorite @ScottA

If a third temple is rebuilt how will it effect your eschatology?

How many times has the unbeliever doubted what is written in God's Word would come to pass? That's what one needs to ask theirself. If God's Word says so as 'written', then that is how it will come to pass.

Points towards a building of a 3rd temple written of in God's Word:

1. the "abomination of desolation" event that Jesus quoted from the Book of Daniel about the 'end' requires a standing temple of the Jews in Jerusalem. That event is how He showed His servants there in Jerusalem it's time to get out of that place (Matt.24).

2. Zechariah 6:12-13 about The "BRANCH" is one of the orthodox Jew's beliefs that when Messiah comes, He will build the temple in Jerusalem. Their problem is that the first supernatural one coming claiming to be Messiah will be a fake.

3. We know the false-Messiah will involve a 3rd temple in Jerusalem because that false one who will setup himself up as God, will end the daily sacrifices associated with temple worship per a confirming of the old covenant. That means a temple will be built with sacrifices going on for that false-Messiah to end them, and instead place the "abomination of desolation".


Points against the building of a 3rd temple:

1. the false preaching that Christ's literal, physical Kingdom over ALL nations came at the cross, and thus there will never be another 3rd temple built in Jerusalem. This idea of course is not Biblical, but was proposed by 'men's doctrines' when the 70 A.D. destruction of Jerusalem and the 2nd temple happened by the Romans.
 

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How many times has the unbeliever doubted what is written in God's Word would come to pass? That's what one needs to ask theirself. If God's Word says so as 'written', then that is how it will come to pass.

Points towards a building of a 3rd temple written of in God's Word:

1. the "abomination of desolation" event that Jesus quoted from the Book of Daniel about the 'end' requires a standing temple of the Jews in Jerusalem. That event is how He showed His servants there in Jerusalem it's time to get out of that place (Matt.24).

2. Zechariah 6:12-13 about The "BRANCH" is one of the orthodox Jew's beliefs that when Messiah comes, He will build the temple in Jerusalem. Their problem is that the first supernatural one coming claiming to be Messiah will be a fake.

3. We know the false-Messiah will involve a 3rd temple in Jerusalem because that false one who will setup himself up as God, will end the daily sacrifices associated with temple worship per a confirming of the old covenant. That means a temple will be built with sacrifices going on for that false-Messiah to end them, and instead place the "abomination of desolation".


Points against the building of a 3rd temple:

1. the false preaching that Christ's literal, physical Kingdom over ALL nations came at the cross, and thus there will never be another 3rd temple built in Jerusalem. This idea of course is not Biblical, but was proposed by 'men's doctrines' when the 70 A.D. destruction of Jerusalem and the 2nd temple happened by the Romans.
1. it happened in AD 70. This was also Jacob's Trouble. Why do you think the diaspora happened.

2. The Branch is Jesus Christ.

3. The final Temple is the Body of Christ. We each are a Temple of the Holy Spirit.

Who are these unbelievers in your opening statement. If someone disagrees with you does that make them an unbeliever and you a saint or vice versa?