3 End-times spiritual princes. Will they bring 3 antichrists?

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The 70th week of Daniel is about the people of Daniel.
100% Correct

The "people of Daniel" include Jew & Gentile in MESSIAH = GOSPEL

The true Light, who gives light to everyone, was coming into the world.
He was in the world, and though the world was made through Him, the world did not recognize Him. He came to His own, and His own did not receive Him.
But to all who did receive Him, to those who believed in His name,
He gave the right to become sons of God— children born not of blood, nor of the desire or will of man, but born of God.


For you are all sons of God through faith in Christ Jesus. For as many of you as were baptized into Christ have put on Christ. There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free, there is neither male nor female; for you are all one in Christ Jesus. And if you are Christ’s, then you are Abraham’s seed, and heirs according to the promise.

Now we, brethren, as Isaac was, are children of promise = Galatians ch3

As God says also in Hosea:

I will call them My people, who were not My people,
And her beloved, who was not beloved.”
“And it shall come to pass in the place where it was said to them,
‘You are not My people,’
There they shall be called sons of the living God.” =
Romans 9:25-26
 

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There are 3.5 years remaining in the 70th week of Daniel.
100% CORRECT

We entered the 70 week of Daniel when Messiah came and was Cut-Off/Crucified mid week.

When the FATHER has concluded the Time for the revealing of the Antichrist, the remaining 3.5 years will begin.

Now, brethren, concerning the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our gathering together to Him, we ask you, 2not to be soon shaken in mind or troubled, either by spirit or by word or by letter, as if from us, as though the day of Christ had come. 3Let no one deceive you by any means; for that Day will not come unless the falling away comes first, and the man of sin is revealed, the son of perdition, 4who opposes and exalts himself above all that is called God or that is worshiped, so that he sits as God in the temple of God, showing himself that he is God.
 

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When the Church is raptured to heaven before the great tribulation, blindness will be removed from part of Israel.
100% FALSE

Blindness is removed from Israel at His Second Coming = GOSPEL


“O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, the one who kills the prophets and stones those who are sent to her! How often I wanted to gather your children together, as a hen gathers her chicks under her wings, but you were not willing!
See! Your house is left to you desolate; for I say to you, you shall see Me no more till you say,
‘Blessed is He who comes in the name of the Lord!’ ”
 

David in NJ

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The Church is raptured to heaven before the great tribulation, before the seals are opened. Then God deals with the Jews. There are 144,000 first fruits of the second harvest and then the second rapture takes place at the 6th seal.
100% FALSE

We who are in Christ are the promised seed of the woman = as Isaac was


Tell me, you who desire to be under the law, do you not hear the law? 22For it is written that Abraham had two sons: the one by a bondwoman, the other by a freewoman. 23But he who was of the bondwoman was born according to the flesh, and he of the freewoman through promise, 24which things are symbolic. For these are the two covenants: the one from Mount Sinai which gives birth to bondage, which is Hagar— 25for this Hagar is Mount Sinai in Arabia, and corresponds to Jerusalem which now is, and is in bondage with her children— 26but the Jerusalem above is free, which is the mother of us all.
27For it is written:

“Rejoice, O barren,
You who do not bear!
Break forth and shout,
You who are not in labor!
For the desolate has many more children
Than she who has a husband.”
28Now we, brethren, as Isaac was, are children of promise. 29But, as he who was born according to the flesh then persecuted him who was born according to the Spirit, even so it is now. 30Nevertheless what does the Scripture say? “Cast out the bondwoman and her son, for the son of the bondwoman shall not be heir with the son of the freewoman.” 31So then, brethren, we are not children of the bondwoman but of the free.

We who are in Christ are the promised seed of the woman = Revelation 12:17
And the dragon was enraged with the woman, and he went to make war with the rest of her offspring,
who keep the commandments of God and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.
 

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100% FALSE

Blindness is removed from Israel at His Second Coming = GOSPEL


“O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, the one who kills the prophets and stones those who are sent to her! How often I wanted to gather your children together, as a hen gathers her chicks under her wings, but you were not willing!
See! Your house is left to you desolate; for I say to you, you shall see Me no more till you say,
‘Blessed is He who comes in the name of the Lord!’ ”
It appears that you don't understand the difference between the woman, Israel and her seed.

Revelation 12
17 And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.

Blindness is removed from the seed of the woman...........part of Israel.

Romans 11
25 For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.

There is a reason that there are 144,000 first fruits from the 12 tribes. That's because there will be a harvest of the 12 tribes at the 6th seal. They will say blessed is he who comes in the name of the Lord.

The woman Israel will remain on the earth during the ONE YEAR wrath of God which is the 7th seal, trumpets and vials.
 

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It appears that you don't understand the difference between the woman, Israel and her seed.

Revelation 12
17 And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.

Blindness is removed from the seed of the woman...........part of Israel.

Romans 11
25 For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.

There is a reason that there are 144,000 first fruits from the 12 tribes. That's because there will be a harvest of the 12 tribes at the 6th seal. They will say blessed is he who comes in the name of the Lord.

The woman Israel will remain on the earth during the ONE YEAR wrath of God which is the 7th seal, trumpets and vials.
Do you keep the commandments of God and have the testimony of Jesus Christ???

i sure hope so, for that is the Only Way for anyone, Jew or Gentile, to be SAVED

Did you not understand Galatians as to who the promised Seed is???

Did you not believe Romans chapter 9 which CLEARLY details how Gentiles become the "people of God"


It is not as though God’s word has failed. For not all who are descended from Israel are Israel.
Nor because they are Abraham’s descendants are they all his children.


The offspring of the woman

On the contrary, “Through Isaac your offspring will be reckoned.”
So it is not the children of the flesh who are God’s children,
but it is the children of the promise who are regarded
as offspring
 

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100% FALSE

We who are in Christ are the promised seed of the woman = as Isaac was
No. Not a chance. The seed of the woman is the 12 tribes across the earth. The woman is Israel as those in the nation of Israel flee to a place of protection. When the fullness of the Gentiles blindness will be removed from part of Israel and then they will have the testimony of Jesus Christ.
 

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Concerning the same man being from Rome and Greece:
1 Thes 5:3 "For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape."

IMO the 3.5 years or peace and safety portion comes under a Roman antichrist and the travail is the next 3.5 years of great tribulation under the Greek antichrist.
TBH, that doesn't add up, the AC has to get Israel to trust him, he is NEVER a false messiah like many think (not saying you do) so they guy that gets Israel to agree (Dan. 9:27) to join the E.U. is the same man who is going to conquer Israel suddenly. God have us different layers of the same man, not two men. He will also have an Assyrian bloodline. The whole PEACE & SAFTEY is misunderstood IMHO. This is more akin to what the wicked say when God's wrath falls, not Israel, so why conflate it with Israel's 70th week events? God is speaking about His wrath on the wicked, in general.

Rev 17:15-18 "
15 And he saith unto me, The waters which thou sawest, where the whore sitteth, are peoples, and multitudes, and nations, and tongues. 16 And the ten horns which thou sawest upon the beast, these shall hate the whore, and shall make her desolate and naked, and shall eat her flesh, and burn her with fire. 17 For God hath put in their hearts to fulfil his will, and to agree, and give their kingdom unto the beast, until the words of God shall be fulfilled. 18 And the woman which thou sawest is that great city, which reigneth over the kings of the earth.

In this passage, I believe the woman or great city from verse 18 will be a future Rome. Rome will be the world capital reigning over the waters, which are peoples, multitudes, nations, and tongues in verse 15. In verse 17, Rome and its leader is destroyed and a new leader emerges over the New Roman Empire. This can't be the same leader imo.
I made my bones on this chapter long ago, most people miss the meaning of the Harlot & Babylon, Rev. 16:19 tells us who Babylon is, 100%. But first, lets solve the Harlot riddle. Forget THAT GREAT CITY, I put it in my blog over 10 years ago as Rome and the holy spirit was like "Ron, what did John see" so I went back and the vision was only 4 verses no kidding, let me place it below, I will add in vs. 7.

Rev. 17:3 So he carried me away in the spirit into the wilderness: and I saw a woman sit upon a scarlet coloured beast, full of names of blasphemy, having seven heads and ten horns.(Notice NO CROWNS)

4 And the woman was arrayed in purple and scarlet colour, and decked with gold and precious stones and pearls, having a golden cup in her hand full of abominations and filthiness of her fornication:

5 And upon her forehead was a name written, Mystery, 1.) Babylon The Great, 2.) The Mother Of Harlots And 3). Abominations Of The Earth.

6 And I saw the woman drunken with the blood of the saints, AND with the blood of the martyrs of Jesus: and when I saw her, I wondered with great admiration(Wonderment).

7 And the angel said unto me, Wherefore didst thou marvel? I will tell thee the mystery of the woman, and of the beast that carrieth her, which hath the seven heads and ten horns.

So, in vs. 7 the Angel says I will explain the Secret/Mystery of the Harlot and the [Gov.] Beast she rides.

The first mistake people make here is they do not understand MYSTERY is a Header, like a QUESTION.

MYSTERY

1.) Babylon the Great (world renowned for its FALSE RELIGION)

2.) Mother of Harlots ( FALSE RELIGION was the original Harlotry)

3.) Abominations of the Earth (God hates all FALSE RELIGION, its an abomination unto Him)

So, it was never Rome nor Babylon per se. its both or ALL FALSE RELIGION of All Time. Babylon is just one of three tags she is given.

As per Babylon in Rev. 18, it is referring to Satan's rule of Deception as in Babel = Confusion. Notice in Rev. 18:2 Babylon (WHOLE WORLD) has become a habitation of devils, because Satan/his demons have all be cast down to earth, and the demons from the pit released. In Rev. 18:8-10 in two verses it says Babylon will be destroyed in ON HOUR and te other verse says ONE DAY, well both mean 1260 days. See the kings in Rev,. 17:12 who serve ONE HOUR with the Beast who rules for 42 months, and he demise also comes in ONE DAY meaning the 42 month long DOTL.

Rev. 16:19 is the key, God says he gave Babylon the Great His GREAT WRATH, so who was killed via the 7th Vial? Well, Vial #6 says it was the Kings of the WHOLE WORLD who went to battle against God. Now how apt is the name Babylon for Satan's Dark Kingdom on thus earth? Satan so confuses(Babel) the masses that they are willing to fight their own loving Creator.

I had to change my blog after that, LOL.

The Harlot (False Religion) Rides THE BEAST (Gov. Kingdom's). The Harlot FALSE RELIGION is in every nation on this earth.

Concerning the beast with crowns/no crowns:
Rev 12:3 "And there appeared another wonder in heaven; and behold a great red dragon, having seven heads and ten horns, and seven crowns upon his heads.

There is only 1 beast and it is under the authority of Satan. This beast throughout history has had different leadership under different regional spiritual authorities, but ultimately under Satan. In the past this beast was under 1) Babylon, 2) Media-Persia, 3) Greece, 4) King of the South from Greece - Ptolemy, Egypt, 5) King of the North from Greece - Seleucid, Assyria, 6) Rome. In the future, New Rome will arise as the 7th head. This will be the last kingdom of Satan.
You missed the point, the CROWNS designate the Beast. Satan is over every city on this earth, we just see 6 European Powers over Israel, then 7 with the AC. In Rev. 12 we know the Red Dragon is Satan he is over all 7 Heads. In Rev. 13 we know its about the ONE MAN AC who has crowns on the 10 Complete E.U. Revived, and in Rev. 17 its about the Demon from the Bottomless Pit named Apollyon, he has NO CROWNS because Satan is always over him on this earth, BUT......(God loves His riddles) he is an 8th King. the king of the bottomless pit. Why else do people think he's the Scarlet Colored Beast here?

If the bible calls it the temple of God and not a defiled temple, I'm not going to call it something else either.
Yes, the Two-witnesses JOB 1 is to get Israel to repent, meaning its is PAST TENSE, to the temple being cleansed.
 

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No. Not a chance. The seed of the woman is the 12 tribes across the earth. The woman is Israel as those in the nation of Israel flee to a place of protection. When the fullness of the Gentiles blindness will be removed from part of Israel and then they will have the testimony of Jesus Christ.


Why were they blinded in the first place?
 

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No. Not a chance. The seed of the woman is the 12 tribes across the earth. The woman is Israel as those in the nation of Israel flee to a place of protection. When the fullness of the Gentiles blindness will be removed from part of Israel and then they will have the testimony of Jesus Christ.
The LORD, the Apostles and The HOLY SPIRIT Says YES and you say no

Read again the Words of TRUTH

For you are all sons of God through faith in Christ Jesus. For as many of you as were baptized into Christ have put on Christ. There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free, there is neither male nor female; for you are all one in Christ Jesus. And if you are Christ’s, then you are Abraham’s seed, and heirs according to the promise.

Now we, brethren, as Isaac was, are children of promise = Galatians ch3

As God says also in Hosea:

I will call them My people, who were not My people,
And her beloved, who was not beloved.”
“And it shall come to pass in the place where it was said to them,
‘You are not My people,’
There they shall be called sons of the living God.” = Romans 9:25-26
 

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To figure out who the prince is, you would probably need to figure out who the King of the North is.

To figure out who the King of the North is, identifying this raiser of taxes would help.

Daniel 11
20 Then shall stand up in his estate a raiser of taxes in the glory of the kingdom: but within few days he shall be destroyed, neither in anger, nor in battle.

After that I would look for a vile man that obtained the kingdom through flatteries.

Daniel 11
21 And in his estate shall stand up a vile person, to whom they shall not give the honour of the kingdom: but he shall come in peaceably, and obtain the kingdom by flatteries.

Once you have a candidate from above, I would make sure that he did not regard the God of his fathers.

Daniel 11
37 Neither shall he regard the God of his fathers,

Then I would look for a non-heterosexual

Daniel 11
37 ............................................................................................... nor the desire of women, nor regard any god: for he shall magnify himself above all.

If you can figure out these things you will know who this prince is.
IMO, the prince of Dan 9:26 is the spiritual authority over Rome, just as Michael is the spiritual authority over Israel.

IMO the King of the North (man) will rise up under a separate spiritual authority - the prince of Greece, before taking over a New Roman Empire under the spiritual prince of Rome.

IMO "nor the desire of women" refers to a god that women desire and not to homosexuality.

Thanks for the input.
 

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Adding "Rome" does not make sense then.





Yes, God.




Yes, satan for faithless Israel but God for faithful Israel.




The context seems to be a version of the endtimes so this prince would likely be similar to the NT "prince of this world".
We are just not on the same page with regard to spiritual princes. The spiritual prince of Israel is Michael.
Dan 10:21 " But I will shew thee that which is noted in the scripture of truth: and there is none that holdeth with me in these things, but Michael your prince."

Satan is the prince of this world, but there are apparently other regional princes as well. Some oppose him and some support.
 
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Even before I read this, I knew there would be 3 anti-Christs before Armageddon. Each one pushing Israel closer and closer to Armageddon, despite all the Return of the Lord had done.

I have a suspicion that there will be a scarcity of resources at the time (of Armageddon), but God has not confirmed this for me yet.
 

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TBH, that doesn't add up, the AC has to get Israel to trust him, he is NEVER a false messiah like many think (not saying you do) so they guy that gets Israel to agree (Dan. 9:27) to join the E.U. is the same man who is going to conquer Israel suddenly. God have us different layers of the same man, not two men. He will also have an Assyrian bloodline. The whole PEACE & SAFTEY is misunderstood IMHO. This is more akin to what the wicked say when God's wrath falls, not Israel, so why conflate it with Israel's 70th week events? God is speaking about His wrath on the wicked, in general.


I made my bones on this chapter long ago, most people miss the meaning of the Harlot & Babylon, Rev. 16:19 tells us who Babylon is, 100%. But first, lets solve the Harlot riddle. Forget THAT GREAT CITY, I put it in my blog over 10 years ago as Rome and the holy spirit was like "Ron, what did John see" so I went back and the vision was only 4 verses no kidding, let me place it below, I will add in vs. 7.

Rev. 17:3 So he carried me away in the spirit into the wilderness: and I saw a woman sit upon a scarlet coloured beast, full of names of blasphemy, having seven heads and ten horns.(Notice NO CROWNS)

4 And the woman was arrayed in purple and scarlet colour, and decked with gold and precious stones and pearls, having a golden cup in her hand full of abominations and filthiness of her fornication:

5 And upon her forehead was a name written, Mystery, 1.) Babylon The Great, 2.) The Mother Of Harlots And 3). Abominations Of The Earth.

6 And I saw the woman drunken with the blood of the saints, AND with the blood of the martyrs of Jesus: and when I saw her, I wondered with great admiration(Wonderment).

7 And the angel said unto me, Wherefore didst thou marvel? I will tell thee the mystery of the woman, and of the beast that carrieth her, which hath the seven heads and ten horns.

So, in vs. 7 the Angel says I will explain the Secret/Mystery of the Harlot and the [Gov.] Beast she rides.

The first mistake people make here is they do not understand MYSTERY is a Header, like a QUESTION.

MYSTERY

1.) Babylon the Great (world renowned for its FALSE RELIGION)

2.) Mother of Harlots ( FALSE RELIGION was the original Harlotry)

3.) Abominations of the Earth (God hates all FALSE RELIGION, its an abomination unto Him)

So, it was never Rome nor Babylon per se. its both or ALL FALSE RELIGION of All Time. Babylon is just one of three tags she is given.

As per Babylon in Rev. 18, it is referring to Satan's rule of Deception as in Babel = Confusion. Notice in Rev. 18:2 Babylon (WHOLE WORLD) has become a habitation of devils, because Satan/his demons have all be cast down to earth, and the demons from the pit released. In Rev. 18:8-10 in two verses it says Babylon will be destroyed in ON HOUR and te other verse says ONE DAY, well both mean 1260 days. See the kings in Rev,. 17:12 who serve ONE HOUR with the Beast who rules for 42 months, and he demise also comes in ONE DAY meaning the 42 month long DOTL.

Rev. 16:19 is the key, God says he gave Babylon the Great His GREAT WRATH, so who was killed via the 7th Vial? Well, Vial #6 says it was the Kings of the WHOLE WORLD who went to battle against God. Now how apt is the name Babylon for Satan's Dark Kingdom on thus earth? Satan so confuses(Babel) the masses that they are willing to fight their own loving Creator.

I had to change my blog after that, LOL.

The Harlot (False Religion) Rides THE BEAST (Gov. Kingdom's). The Harlot FALSE RELIGION is in every nation on this earth.


You missed the point, the CROWNS designate the Beast. Satan is over every city on this earth, we just see 6 European Powers over Israel, then 7 with the AC. In Rev. 12 we know the Red Dragon is Satan he is over all 7 Heads. In Rev. 13 we know its about the ONE MAN AC who has crowns on the 10 Complete E.U. Revived, and in Rev. 17 its about the Demon from the Bottomless Pit named Apollyon, he has NO CROWNS because Satan is always over him on this earth, BUT......(God loves His riddles) he is an 8th King. the king of the bottomless pit. Why else do people think he's the Scarlet Colored Beast here?


Yes, the Two-witnesses JOB 1 is to get Israel to repent, meaning its is PAST TENSE, to the temple being cleansed.
Good post!

"TBH, that doesn't add up, the AC has to get Israel to trust him, he is NEVER a false messiah like many think (not saying you do) so they guy that gets Israel to agree (Dan. 9:27) to join the E.U. is the same man who is going to conquer Israel suddenly. God have us different layers of the same man, not two men. He will also have an Assyrian bloodline. The whole PEACE & SAFTEY is misunderstood IMHO. This is more akin to what the wicked say when God's wrath falls, not Israel, so why conflate it with Israel's 70th week events? God is speaking about His wrath on the wicked, in general."

Jesus was not recognized by the Jews because Jesus did not conquer its enemy, namely Rome. Whoever conquers Israel's enemies in the future will be who Israel trusts. If we are in the end-times, that trust would go to President Trump, head of the Board of Peace for Gaza. I would not be looking at the EU, who are all but impotent. There are 2 current problems with Trump being this fulfillment. Trump is not under any spiritual power of Rome. The Board of Peace has more than 10 members. If I was looking for the AC, I would look for someone who follows Rome and who controls a 10-member Board of Peace. Interesting that Vance and Rubio are both Catholic, but this is all speculation.

In this scenario, Israel would give itself to the power of the AC from Rome. On the other hand, the AC from Assyria will conquer Israel. 2 separate individuals gaining control over Israel using 2 separate methods but retaining control over the Board of Peace. You are likely correct about me conflating the travail of Israel (the period of great tribulation) with the travail of the nations (the period of God's wrath). It's hard for me to get over the fact that Israel is always calling out for peace and safety.

Concerning Babylon the Great:
I am with you in the sense that in the days of old, each region had its false God. I am not with you in the sense that Babylon the Great is exclusively called a 'city' and not false religion. I believe the false religion moves from city to city with different conquerors, who are actually working under different regional gods, ie prince of Rome, prince of Greece, prince of Persia. Each of these spiritual princes are under the authority of Satan.

In the future, the spiritual prince of the actual city of Rome (Mystery Babylon) will rule over Israel through a man/AC. When the Assyrian AC rises, the actual city of Rome will be destroyed and there will be a new 'world capital city,' a new Mystery Babylon. Maybe Tel Aviv or Babylon or Damascus? Either way, false religion rules the day. I just add to your theory that the false religion of the day will spring from a 'world capital city.'

Concerning heads 7 and 8 and their crowns:
I'm sticking with my own theory.
Even before I read this, I knew there would be 3 anti-Christs before Armageddon. Each one pushing Israel closer and closer to Armageddon, despite all the Return of the Lord had done.

I have a suspicion that there will be a scarcity of resources at the time (of Armageddon), but God has not confirmed this for me yet.
There are at least 2 reasons for scarcity:
People will not be able to buy or sell unless they have the mark of the beast.
During times of war, there is always scarcity of resources. This will definitely be a time of war.
 

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I don't know why my last 2 posts were created as 1. Hopefully Ronald and Gottservant will each see my response to each of their posts.