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According to the teachings of Jesus VIA Paul how do believers today avoid 'destruction' ?
The t.r.u.m.p ignorantly speaks Scripture
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According to the teachings of Jesus VIA Paul how do believers today avoid 'destruction' ?
Here's a main cause..
He writes the same way in all his letters, speaking in them of these matters.
His letters contain some things that are hard to understand, which ignorant
and unstable people distort, as they do the other Scriptures, to their
own destruction.
2 Peter 3:16
That's not Jesus VIA Paul.
The request was SIMPLE and POLITE,
Verses please :)
According to the teachings of Jesus VIA Paul how do believers today avoid 'destruction' ?
Does it have to be through Paul when Peter answered your question?
So the truth is not relevant unless it is revealed according to your personal stipulation.???
If Peter & Paul were taught exactly the same by Jesus then you will EASILY be able to show where Jesus VIA Paul taught how believers today avoid 'destruction'
If you don't know, then say so :)
Marvelloustime
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amigo de christo
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yeah TRUE teachers . Meanwhile stay dug in the holy scriptures .
You have heard it said the reason why there are so many different denominations
was due to their reading the bible on their own .
No sir . The reading of the bible was never the problem . It was in the hearts of men .
THE REASON why we truly had so many different denominations
was due to the fact most didnt read FOR themselves .
DO you e ver wonder WHY i never joined the mormon , jw , and etc
Because by Grace GOD did put me into the bible . And in time
i realized , they got serious problems indeed .
SO get in that bible , stay in that bible . cause i seen exactly what many so called hebrew and greek scholars
been selling this generation . And as usual they can say truths but they do twist other things .
And it sure always seems to f it what particualar teaching of such men , claims it to mean . KNow what i mean .
You can open it and you can read it for yourself . You wont catch on fire and ye shant be decieved .
PRAY to GOD f or wisdom .
JimKnox
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Seems to me it is you who are playing games since you are deflecting his simple request that you show HOW reading Scripture can become demonic.
OK... You equate reading a translation to being Scripture. Correct?
It might be. But there are too many times that it has failed to convey the original intent.
The only way to get Scripture all the time... if it's to be done?
Is to have some expert pastor who is a scholar to exegete the text in the original language.
That is not something for babies nor most sophomore believers to pursue.
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trump inadvertently speaks scripture in reference to Israel , telling Netanyahu that everyone hates him (Israel)
Revelation 16:14, 20:8-9
I'm sure some will come on here to dispute the relevance of this scripture to this season, however the bible is always right, the t.r.u.m.p has continuously push back on his supposed peace agreement, exaggeration to the point of lying.
It is sad that he does not realize, no president will ever halt this war, this war started with Sarah telling Abraham to go into her concubine Hagar, thinking she was helping God with his promise, because of her old age.
Only Jesus/Yeshua, (Zechariah 12:2-3) On that day, when all nations of the earth are gathered against her, I will make Jerusalem an immovable rock for all the nations
Ronald Nolette
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JimKnox
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Sorry friend. That is absolutely not true.
The KJB states emphatically that ALL Scripture is inspired of God.
The meaning is clear. ALL means ALL.
That includes every language on earth in which it has been faithfully translated from the purest MSS of the TR and the Masoretic text family.
What you are suggesting smacks of Roman Catholicism and/or Phariseeism.
What you are suggesting is that Jesus failed us when He promised the Comforter who will be IN us and lead us into ALL Truth.
What you are suggesting is that ONLY they who are fluent in ancient DEAD LANGUAGES can possibly know what God said to us.
What you are suggesting is eerily reminiscent of "Yea hath God said"?
I vehemently reject your thesis.
JimKnox
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Triumph1300
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There are none.
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But there are some worse than others.
Looking at his record Trump is the worst.
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We can be confident that Donald Trump will be viewed as the worst president in U.S. history, with Richard Nixon now a distant second.
Genez, sure. If I were teaching Titus 2:11–12 to new believers, I would keep it simple:
God's grace has appeared bringing salvation to mankind. But God's grace doesn't only save us; it also trains us in how to live.
That grace trains us to reject ungodliness and worldly desires and to live self-controlled, righteous, and godly lives in this present age.
Now show me from the Greek where that basic understanding becomes misleading.
I recognize that παιδεύουσα carries the idea of training, instructing, educating, even disciplinary training—not merely passing along information. That's useful additional precision.
But the English translation has not reversed Paul's thought. The Greek still has God's grace as the thing training us: ἡ χάρις ... παιδεύουσα ἡμᾶς.
So if there is some major doctrine that an English reader is supposedly being misled about here, show me exactly what it is.
And after that, my original question remains: what biblical principle establishes that a believer who continues studying Scripture in translation reaches a point where doing so becomes deception from the Devil?
Matthew 7 says few find the way. It does not say God provides only a few teachers.
Isaiah 55 says God's thoughts and ways are higher than ours. It does not say those thoughts are accessible only through a pastor.
You inserted the teacher between those two texts and then treated that insertion as though the verses themselves established it.
And the broad way leading to destruction applies to teachers too. Teachers are not exempt from the warning. In fact, immediately after speaking about the narrow and broad ways, Jesus warns, “Beware of false prophets.”
So Matthew 7 cannot be used to tell believers, “Find one of the few good teachers and depend on him.” The passage also requires the believer to beware of false teachers and discern them.
If Peter & Paul were taught exactly the same by Jesus then you will EASILY be able to show where Jesus VIA Paul taught how believers today avoid 'destruction'
If you don't know, then say so :)
I requested if you don't know, then say so :)
No verses from Paul so you don't know but instead choose to insult.
What was that about growing up ? Hmm not 2 EZ 4 GZ :)
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The means to teach one not to live an ungodly life is not the same word used in a teacher/student arrangement.
This teaching is like what a parent will do to teach his child a lesson not to do something.
How?
By letting letting the child do it and end up hurting himself.
He will learn the hard way.
Very effective method.
He will avoid doing such a thing ever again.
Understanding that would help Christians better understand that God actually was teaching them to straighten up and fly right when they thought God was about to give up on them.
First a person needs to be taught how to be saved
Jesus VIA Paul :-
1 Cor 15:1-4, Eph 1:13, Col 2:13 = saved, HS sealed, forgiven of all
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