Why Christians Call Mary the Mother of God.

amigo de christo · Thursday at 12:36 PM

David1701 said:
God replaced Judas Iscariot with Paul, for the ministry of the twelve apostles. That is completely different from the R.C. doctrine of so-called "apostolic succession", for which is zero scriptural evidence.

In none of these activites does the pastor act as a mediator between God and men, unlike the claimed mediatorial priesthood of Romanism.

This is the usual sophistry. The R.C.'s so-called "priests" act in the place of Christ (i.e. as anti-Christs).

John 20:23 (NASB 1995) If you forgive the sins of any, their sins [a] have been forgiven them; if you retain the sins of any, they have been retained.”

[a] John 20:23 i.e. have previously been forgiven

The tense is ambiguous in the unnamed version you've quoted; however, here, it is clear that it is about declaring to those who believe the gospel that their sins have been forgiven; and to the unbelievers that their sins have been retained.

Yes, and...?

We know.

We know.

What does "Vicar of Christ" mean? (N.B. I'm not looking for information, since I already know the answer; I just want to see what you say.)

Only God can forgive sins; but, we can declare that those who have believed the gospel have been forgiven; and that those who don't have not.

Then why do you have a mediatorial priesthood? All Christians are priests unto God. There is no separate priesthood, in the New Covenant.

Answered above (and I note the typically vague and "open to interpretation" wording of your question - "ministerial role in reconciliation").

Answered above.

That catholic gonna tear you up my friend .
God did not replace judas with paul . read again in acts . God chose mathias and he was numbered with the twelve .
You got to expose the RCC itself .
IT is the problem . Peter himself had rebuked every last one of them popes blind as a bat .
Now its true paul himself was also an apostel , guess what else is true
It is written the apostels , plural , barnabas and paul . they were not the original twelve
but in acts its says the apostels , barnabas and paul .
Now as far as cessationsim , It came of the dark one so dont heed it .
BUT DO beware of the nar realm and charasmetic movements . Them folks are blind leading the blind
whose love is money .
We must get in the bible , and do so JUST FOR OURSELVES .
We got a hot mess in christendom and its only spreading itself like a green bray tree .
EVIL has taken over much of christendom and did so by a harlots love .
But this is no ordinary delusion . THIS ONE has come TO MERGE the decieved with the decieved , to make
the decieved as one mind and one heart and they will recieve the just due of their DAMNATION on JESUS day .
Now if that sounds rough and judgmental , ITS NOT . ITS a fact . We got work to do my friend .
And much work we have to do in these last hours . AND they aint gonna love us for our LOVE .
For TRUTH always exposes the darkness and what lies within the darkness . AND MEN LOVE SIN my friend . ITS A Fact .
many do not have the SPIRIT within christendom . No sir they do not . and their fruits and what they love
HAVE PROVED THIS to be very true .

Taken · Thursday at 12:53 PM

Moonwood said:
If by "bow down" you mean worship, then no.

Did I say bow and worship? No.
An explaination for what I did not say Not necessary.

Moonwood said:
Catholics do not worship Mary or statues. If by "bow down" you mean showing reverence while praying, then yes, some Catholics do.

Their prerogative.

No mention of…Worship, Reverence or Prayer. ——>

Lev. 26:
[1] Ye shall make you no idols nor graven image, neither rear you up a standing image, neither shall ye set up any image of stone in your land, to bow down unto it: for I am the LORD your God.

Moonwood said:
Yes, Catholics ask Mary to intercede for them, but not as someone who stands between them and God in a way that blocks direct access to Him.

Mary’s Body IS Dead.
It is her saved spiritual soul in Heaven.

Deut. 18:
[10] There shall not be found among you any one that maketh his son or his daughter to pass through the fire, or that useth divination, or an observer of times, or an enchanter, or a witch,
[11] Or a charmer, or a consulter with familiar spirits, or a wizard, or a necromancer.
[12] For all that do these things are an abomination unto the LORD: and because of these abominations the LORD thy God doth drive them out from before thee.

Moonwood said:
Catholics ask Mary to pray for them in the same way Christians ask friends, family members, pastors, or other believers to pray for them. In fact, Scripture encourages Christians to offer "supplications, prayers, intercessions" for one another (1 Timothy 2:1).

Prayers For the Living BY the Living.
Yes.
Prayers to familiar spirits …
No…
Because that can cause Evil Spirits to answer and fool the person.

FREEWILL … acknowledge warnings or not.

BreadOfLife · Thursday at 2:20 PM

Taken said:
God has a body and soul.
God is called a Spirit. ( and Has Spirits).

God is pure and immaterial SPIRIT. God has a Body – but only because the Son took on flesh and blood at the Incarnation (Luke 1:26-35, John 1:14).

Now, pay attention because THIS is where you get lost:
John 1:14
The Word BECAME flesh and made his dwelling among us.”
Notice how it doesn’t say, “The Word was ALWAYS flesh”??
There ends the lesson for the day . . .

Taken said:
Not a correction FOR me!
Your belief… NOT MINE!
HUMANS ARE, created from dust of the Earth.
God was Not Created!
God Son / WORD…Came forth out of Gods Mouth!
Humans Did Not, Do Not come forth out of Gods Mouth…duh!

Ummm, first of all – CALM down. You’re gonna give yourself an aneurism . . .

Secondly – the Son is ETERNALLY BEGOTTEN of the Father.
YOUR belief that Jesus was ALWAYS flesh and blood is not Biblical. It’s the heresy of Docetism.

Taken said:
Making a Statement of Fact…is NOT claiming a thought For you…nor a lie.
Try harder to hone your Terrible communication skills!

Lies aren’t “Facts” just because m YOU vomit them out, my arrogant friend . . .

Taken said:
Get a grip…
Living human…IS a body with a soul & spirit.
God…IS a Spirit with a body, soul. & spirits.

As the Bible educates – God is Spirit (John 4:24).
But God DOES have a Body – in the distinct Person of Jesus Christ.

Taken said:
That No… denied, limiting Jesus’ “person to Connection to Mary…”
Mary is Irrelevant…
Jesus, is Spirit, with a body & soul, that had nothing to do with Mary.

And if Mary was “irrelevant” – then God would NEVER have bothered with using HER as the instrument by which He entered this world. To Go – she was Kecharitomeme (Luke 1:28). The term is the perfect passive participle, indicates a completed action with a permanent result. So, it translates, “completely, perfectly, enduringly endowed with grace.”

Pretty powerful description for someone who is “Irrelevant”, Einstein . . .

Taken said:
Gods Word came forth out of Gods Mouth.
God prepared His WORD a Body, humans could SEE,
AND Sent that body to Mary’s Womb
AND once delivered forth … was SEEN by humans…
Not a mystery!

Just as the Eternal GOD is a mystery - t he Incarnation is absolutely a mystery to our limited human understanding, YOUR immense arrogance, notwithstanding . . .

Taken said:
He has always been A Spirit, with a body. With a soul.
The Flesh body God Prepared… did Not MAKE Jesus a “HUMAN MAN”.
It MADE Jesus “appear”… AS A (human) man

Forst of all – Jesus did NOT have a body until the Incarnation (Luke 1:26-35). This is when the Holy Spirit overshadowed May and she became pregnant.

Jesus was bot DIVINE and HUMAN. It wasn’t a disguise or a costume.
THIS is why He referred to Himself as “Son of MAN’, as was prophesied (Dan. 7:13-14).

YOU are deeply mired in the ancient heresy of Dodetism . . .

Taken said:
You claim Jesus was a Human…
You claim God/Father has NO Body…
(your post # 358)

I disagree…

And THIS is why I said you are wrong . . .

Taken said:
And Because your communication skills are terrible,
AND
You Lack Spiritual Understanding, YOU preach Jesus was a HUMAN and God Has NOT A BODY.

Because I'm not drowning in the same Docetist Heresy that YOU ar?

I preach that because the Word of God proclaims it.
Apparently – YOU seem to have missed the memo . . .

Taken said:
Yet Gods, face, Ears, Eyes, Hands, Arms, Feet, Back… for example are expressly revealed in Scripture…..
But; According to you…God has no body
Post #358.

And you appease yourself, for what you lack in understanding That others Have… to Rant… they are Wrong and Liars.

Told you Before… you are not qualified, Nor have I solicited you to be MY Teacher.

The fact that you don’t understand the SYMBOLIC language of Scripture speaks VOLUMES about your inability to understand it.

God’s “physical” attributes described in Scripture are what is known as “Anthropomorphisms”.
Sorry about the big word, but it simply means, relating HUMAN attributes to SPIRITUAL matters.

A prime example of this is when Moses proclaimed –
Exod. 15:8
At the blast of your nostrils the waters piled up; the floods stood up in a heap; the deeps congealed in the heart of the sea.

God doesn’t have “nostrils” – or even a nose, for that matter. The Bibler tells us that God is SPIRIT (John 4:24). THIS is why Scripture proclaims that that –
John 1:18
NO ONE HAS EVER SEEN GOD; God the only Son, who is at the Father's side, he has made him known.

Taken said:
It is always unpleasant to converse with you about Spiritual Things.

Especially when you’re wrong . . .

Taken · Thursday at 4:02 PM

BreadOfLife said:
God is pure and immaterial SPIRIT. God has a Body –

Only when you say so.

BreadOfLife said:
but only because the Son took on flesh and blood at the Incarnation (Luke 1:26-35, John 1:14).

Disagree.
Man is a body.
Man “MADE” in Gods likeness and image.

BreadOfLife said:
Now, pay attention because

You are Not qualified to be my teacher.

BreadOfLife said:
THIS is where you get lost:

Pffft.

BreadOfLife said:
John 1:14
The Word BECAME flesh and made his dwelling among us.”
Notice how it doesn’t say, “The Word was ALWAYS flesh”??
There ends the lesson for the day . . .

Heb. 13:
[8] Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and to day, and for ever.

BreadOfLife said:
Ummm, first of all – CALM down. You’re gonna give yourself an aneurism…

Nothing in my comment revealed anything upsetting… stop with your crap.

BreadOfLife said:
Secondly – the Son is ETERNALLY BEGOTTEN of the Father.
YOUR belief that Jesus was ALWAYS flesh and blood is not Biblical.

Your gaslighting is boring.
I never said that.

BreadOfLife said:
It’s the heresy of Docetism.

Gaslight then disagree with your own words…typical…and unpleasant to converse with you.

BreadOfLife said:
Lies aren’t “Facts” just because m YOU vomit them out, my arrogant friend . . .

Not a lie… you are NOT God…
Get over it.

BreadOfLife said:
As the Bible educates – God is Spirit (John 4:24).
But God DOES have a Body – in the distinct Person of Jesus Christ.

God has always had a body…
Where were you when God showed Moses HIS BACK…?

BreadOfLife said:
And if Mary was “irrelevant” –

Regarding the Lord Jesus’ body, soul, spirit…had nothing to do with Mary’s egg.
Mary’s Part was her ”Agreement” for Jesus to be Placed in her Womb.

Many individual humans have “MADE” “Agreements” with God.

BreadOfLife said:
then God would NEVER have bothered with using HER as the instrument by which He entered this world. To Go – she was Kecharitomeme (Luke 1:28). The term is the perfect passive participle, indicates a completed action with a permanent result. So, it translates, “completely, perfectly, enduringly endowed with grace.”

Pretty powerful description for someone who is “Irrelevant”, Einstein . . .

Just as the Eternal GOD is a mystery - t he Incarnation is absolutely a mystery to our limited human understanding, YOUR immense arrogance, notwithstanding . . .

Yawn with your repetitive, boring, Catholics of old made up nonsense.

BreadOfLife said:
Forst of all – Jesus did NOT have a body until the Incarnation (Luke 1:26-35).

Heb 13:
[8] Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and to day, and for ever.

BreadOfLife said:
God doesn’t have “nostrils” – or even a nose, for that matter. The Bibler tells us that God is SPIRIT (John 4:24). THIS is why Scripture proclaims that that –
John 1:18
NO ONE HAS EVER SEEN GOD; God the only Son, who is at the Father's side, he has made him known.

WOW… pretty bold claim.
But yet God Has a FACE…
And most people would know the nose smells aromas …

Gee….too bad (according to you) God has no nose to smell the aroma of animals burned on the altar in the Temple.
:sad:

BreadOfLife said:
Especially when you’re wrong . . .

Pretty confident that comment is befitting you.

David1701 · Thursday at 4:48 PM

amigo de christo said:
That catholic gonna tear you up my friend .
God did not replace judas with paul . read again in acts . God chose mathias and he was numbered with the twelve .
You got to expose the RCC itself .
IT is the problem . Peter himself had rebuked every last one of them popes blind as a bat .
Now its true paul himself was also an apostel , guess what else is true
It is written the apostels , plural , barnabas and paul . they were not the original twelve
but in acts its says the apostels , barnabas and paul .
Now as far as cessationsim , It came of the dark one so dont heed it .
BUT DO beware of the nar realm and charasmetic movements . Them folks are blind leading the blind
whose love is money .
We must get in the bible , and do so JUST FOR OURSELVES .
We got a hot mess in christendom and its only spreading itself like a green bray tree .
EVIL has taken over much of christendom and did so by a harlots love .
But this is no ordinary delusion . THIS ONE has come TO MERGE the decieved with the decieved , to make
the decieved as one mind and one heart and they will recieve the just due of their DAMNATION on JESUS day .
Now if that sounds rough and judgmental , ITS NOT . ITS a fact . We got work to do my friend .
And much work we have to do in these last hours . AND they aint gonna love us for our LOVE .
For TRUTH always exposes the darkness and what lies within the darkness . AND MEN LOVE SIN my friend . ITS A Fact .
many do not have the SPIRIT within christendom . No sir they do not . and their fruits and what they love
HAVE PROVED THIS to be very true .

The Bible says that the apostles decided on two people, using their own criteria for who could be an apostle, between whom they gave God the option to choose (that was big of them, wasn't it?). They then used the O.T. method of lots (which ensures that one of them will be chosen, no matter what) and numbered the one on whom the lot fell with the eleven apostles.

Now, not only had the apostles not been told to do the above; but, they had been told to wait until they received power from on high. So, they did something they had not been told to do, using their own (incorrect) criteria; and, in doing so, they were not doing what they had been told to do (wait).

Meanwhile, God chose Paul, using direct contact (as He had with all the original 12). Paul had not followed with the original 12 (in fact, he had persecuted them!), so Paul did not meet the apostles' criteria for an apostle, which just goes to prove that the apostles' criteria were, at least partially, incorrect, and that they should have waited, as God had commanded them.

In light of the above, the evidence for Paul being Judas' replacement is overwhelming.

I'm not a cessationist.

I don't know what "nar realm" is supposed to mean.

Charismatics are simply those who believe that the gifts of the Holy Spirit continue nowadays, but who are not Pentecostals. It is grossly unfair to claim that they all "love money" and are "the blind leading the blind"; although, this is true of some (particularly of the "name-it-and-claim-it" variety).

You have a zeal for God, that is clear; but you need to be accurate and fair in your statements, instead of making sweeping generalisations.

BreadOfLife · Thursday at 5:02 PM

Taken said:
Only when you say so.

No – only when the BIBLE says so.

Taken said:
You are Not qualified to be my teacher.

And THIS is what your entire argument is really about.

So much vanity and arrogance that you couldn’t possibly learn truth from ANYBODY because you refuse to see your errors . . .

Taken said:
Pffft.

GREAT argument . . .

Taken said:
Heb. 13:
[8] Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and to day, and for ever.

YUP.

Hebrews was written AFTER Jesus returned to the Father Heaven (Yesterday).
He is the SAME Jesus today as He was then (Today).

He will REMAIN the same Forever . . .

Taken said:
Nothing in my comment revealed anything upsetting… stop with your crap.

Now, now - I was just trying to help.
You were going berserk . . .

Taken said:
Your gaslighting is boring.
I never said that.

You’ve been claiming this for the last 3 pages of posts . . .

Taken said:
Gaslight then disagree with your own words…typical…and unpleasant to converse with you.

If you don’t want to be accused of the heresy of Docetism – then stop PREACHING it . . .

Taken said:
Not a lie… you are NOT God…
Get over it.

And once again – I never said I WAS.

Hope it sunk in this time . . .

Taken said:
God has always had a body…
Where were you when God showed Moses HIS BACK…?

I was reading the Bible and discerning between the Literal and the METEPHORICAL.
All TRUE students of Scripture know NOT to take everything in a literal sense.

It is because of this that – unlike YOU – we can see when something is an Anthropomorphism and when it’s NOT . . .

Taken said:
Regarding the Lord Jesus’ body, soul, spirit…had nothing to do with Mary’s egg. Mary’s Part was her ”Agreement” for Jesus to be Placed in her Womb.

I was reading the Bible and discerning between the Literal and the METEPHORICAL.
All TRUE students of Scripture know NOT to take everything in a literal sense.

It is because of this that – unlike YOU – we can see when something is an Anthropomorphism and when it’s NOT . . .

Taken said:
Many individual humans have “MADE” “Agreements” with God.

And yet, NONE of them carried and gave birth to the Man-God (Theanthropos).

Taken said:
Yawn with your repetitive, boring, Catholics of old made up nonsense.

And yet, you haven’t been able to Scripturally-refute me . . .

Taken said:
Heb 13:
[8] Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and to day, and for ever.

YUP.

And as I already schooled you –
Hebrews was written AFTER Jesus returned to the Father Heaven (Yesterday).
He is the SAME Jesus today as He was then (Today).

Taken said:
WOW… pretty bold claim.
But yet God Has a FACE…
And most people would know the nose smells aromas …

NOT being able to properly divide and discern Scripture is a real Tragedy.
You should pray for humility and wisdom . . .

Taken said:
Pretty confident that comment is befitting you.

NOT being able to properly divide and discern Scripture is a real Tragedy.
You should pray for humility and wisdom . . .

Again – you haven’t Scripturally-refuted anything I’ve taught you . . .

TLHKAJ · Thursday at 5:16 PM

Christians do not call Mary the mother of God.

Taken · Thursday at 5:20 PM

BreadOfLife said:
Again – you haven’t Scripturally-refuted anything I’ve taught you . . .

I Have always been clear with you…
Nothing new…

I disagree with most what you say.

You are unpleasant to have a conversation about Spiritual things.

You are Not my teacher.

Can’t show in Scripture the nonsense you teach.

Your repetitive gaslighting and pretense tactics are old and boring.

Move on and go pretend you are someone else’s’ teacher.

Dryhn · Thursday at 5:52 PM

BreadOfLife said:
Then, YOU should tell that to your friend, Taken.
I’ve been defending the Trinity ini this thread.

I suggest you go back and READ the posts . . .

Though I may not always understand I accept what is clearly taught in Scripture.

White is 3 colors - red, green, blue

GOD is 3 entities - Father, Word, HS
The Word later became flesh.

Nothing convinces me otherwise

amigo de christo · Thursday at 7:53 PM

David1701 said:
The Bible says that the apostles decided on two people, using their own criteria for who could be an apostle, between whom they gave God the option to choose (that was big of them, wasn't it?). They then used the O.T. method of lots (which ensures that one of them will be chosen, no matter what) and numbered the one on whom the lot fell with the eleven apostles.

Now, not only had the apostles not been told to do the above; but, they had been told to wait until they received power from on high. So, they did something they had not been told to do, using their own (incorrect) criteria; and, in doing so, they were not doing what they had been told to do (wait).

Meanwhile, God chose Paul, using direct contact (as He had with all the original 12). Paul had not followed with the original 12 (in fact, he had persecuted them!), so Paul did not meet the apostles' criteria for an apostle, which just goes to prove that the apostles' criteria were, at least partially, incorrect, and that they should have waited, as God had commanded them.

In light of the above, the evidence for Paul being Judas' replacement is overwhelming.

I'm not a cessationist.

I don't know what "nar realm" is supposed to mean.

Charismatics are simply those who believe that the gifts of the Holy Spirit continue nowadays, but who are not Pentecostals. It is grossly unfair to claim that they all "love money" and are "the blind leading the blind"; although, this is true of some (particularly of the "name-it-and-claim-it" variety).

You have a zeal for God, that is clear; but you need to be accurate and fair in your statements, instead of making sweeping generalisations.

new apostolic reformation . nar . you see that and do as i did . i RAN from the NAR realm and real quickly too .
Thems wolves in wool my friend . wolves in wool . Be encouraged now .
Miss holla paula is they queen .

David1701 · Thursday at 8:56 PM

amigo de christo said:
new apostolic reformation . nar . you see that and do as i did . i RAN from the NAR realm and real quickly too .
Thems wolves in wool my friend . wolves in wool . Be encouraged now .
Miss holla paula is they queen .

Ah, New Apostolic Reformation - thanks. I'll investigate.

BreadOfLife · 2026-11-06T09:54:38-0600

Taken said:
I Have always been clear with you…
Nothing new…

You’ve been anything BUT clear. You change your positions like you change your clothes.
As soon as you get cornered – you try to weasel out of it by claiming that you “never said” that.

Taken said:
I disagree with most what you say.
You are unpleasant to have a conversation about Spiritual things.

Of course you do.
Being publicly refuted is never any fun . . .

Taken said:
Can’t show in Scripture the nonsense you teach.

Actually – you can’t REFUTE anything I’ve said . . .

Taken said:
Your repetitive gaslighting and pretense tactics are old and boring.
Move on and go pretend you are someone else’s’ teacher.

Accusing your opponent of “Gaslighting” every time you have NO valid answer is a failure on YOUR part.
It has nothing to do with “Gaslighting” . . .

BreadOfLife · 2026-11-06T09:56:20-0600

Dryhn said:
Though I may not always understand I accept what is clearly taught in Scripture.

White is 3 colors - red, green, blue

GOD is 3 entities - Father, Word, HS
The Word later became flesh.
Nothing convinces me otherwise

The doctrine of the Holy Trinity is that –
God is ONE Being (Entity) manifested in Three PERSONS.

He’s not Three entities . . .

Hope2day4ever · 2026-11-06T12:33:11-0600

Taken said:
Catholic Catechism is Catholics well known sidekick book FOR Catholics and Catholic Teaching.

Omitting Scriptural Language…
Introducing a non-scriptural excuse, Because a council of men “say so”… IS NOT According to Gods Way!

CCC3132…
Results 1 - 1 of 1 »
Hide footnotes Hide cross-references
Part 3: Life in Christ (1691 - 2557)
Section 2: The Ten Commandments (2052 - 2557)
Chapter 1: You Shall Love the Lord Your God with All Your Heart, and with All Your Soul, and with All Your Mind (2083 - 2195)
Article 1: The First Commandment (2084 - 2141)
I am the LORD your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage. You shall have no other gods before me. You shall not make for yourself a graven image, or any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth; [/U]you shall not bow down to them [/U]or serve them.3
2134 IV. "YOU SHALL NOT MAKE FOR YOURSELF A GRAVEN IMAGE..." ⇡

Omits bowing down..

Then “falsely ASSURES the Catholic…
“movement” toward the Graven images, is Not Worshiping the image”…(they were told to Not Errect)…

“”The Christian veneration of images is not contrary to the first commandment which proscribes idols. Indeed, "the honor rendered to an image passes to its prototype," and "whoever venerates an image venerates the person portrayed in it."70 The honor paid to sacred images is a "respectful veneration," not the adoration due to God alone: Religious worship is not directed to images in themselves, considered as mere things, but under their distinctive aspect as images leading us on to God incarnate. The movement toward the image does not terminate in it as image, but tends toward that whose image it is.“”

“”St. Basil, De Spiritu Sancto 18,45G 32,149C; Council of Nicaea II: DS 601; cf. Council of Trent: DS 1821-1825; Vatican Council II: SC 126; LG 67,71

St. Thomas Aquinas, STh II-II,81,3 ad 3.””

Councils of Catholic men…Omitting, Falsely Dividing, Defying, Twisting…IS Not The Lord Gods Truth or Way.

Your prerogative as with every Catholic, to Trust, Believe, Follow, Mimic, protocols, devised doctrines, devised traditions of councils of Catholic men.

And my prerogative to Disagree and Reject..

1 Tim 2:
[5] For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;

Do Not Call on the Dead
Lev. 19:31

The dead know nothing.
Eph 9:5

Warning… calling on the Dead…may, can or will…result in conjuring, invoking, wicked, evil spirits to Fool You, by answering your calling.
2 Cor 11: 14-15

Not a mystery…prayer TO God only, IN Jesus Name only.
1 Tim 2:5

Glory to God,
Taken

Taken · 2026-11-06T13:25:47-0600

BreadOfLife said:
You’ve been anything BUT clear.

False.

BreadOfLife said:
As soon as you get cornered – you try to weasel out of it by claiming that you “never said” that.

False.

BreadOfLife said:
Accusing your opponent of “Gaslighting”

When you speak FOR me…what I do not claim.

I disagree with you..
Many of your Beliefs,
Your tactics,
Your unpleasant demeanor,
Your Boring posts that edge on toxic.

Doubt I would buddy with you “in person” and find no enjoyment or value in Conversing with you on this forum.

May God Bless you and you open your Ears To His Truths.

Glory to God,
Taken

BreadOfLife · 2026-11-06T16:25:03-0600

Taken said:
False.
False.

True.
True.

Taken said:
When you speak FOR me…what I do not claim.

I don’t speak FOR you or anybody else, for that matter.
I simply hold you accountable for the this YOU say.

Taken said:
I disagree with you..
Many of your Beliefs,
Your tactics,
Your unpleasant demeanor,
Your Boring posts that edge on toxic.

As for disagreeing with me – that’s fine. It’s only when you vomit out LIES about what Catholics teach and believe that it becomes a problem.

That may be WHY you perceive my posts to be “Toxic” . . .

Taken · 2026-11-06T18:07:22-0600

BreadOfLife said:
“I don’t speak FOR you or anybody else, for that matter.”

As for disagreeing with me – that’s fine.

BreadOfLife said:
It’s only when you vomit out LIES about what Catholics teach…

You are Not the ONLY Catholic…

Other Catholics Also Have their say, IN WHAT THEY “DO” and “Believe.”

As far as Catholics TEACHING Catholics…
They are TAUGHT By Instruction…
Verbal, Written “side book”, and Observance TO MINIC,
Catholic Popes, Catholic Priests, Catholic Elders, Catholic Nuns, Parents, Guardians.
…Behaviors, Gestures, Diagrams, Vows to Join the church, Support the Church, Attend the Church, Obey its Established Traditions, Rules and Doctrines. (As they change or remain the same.)

BreadOfLife said:
That may be WHY you perceive my posts to be “Toxic” . . .

Not others…it is one of your Tactics to Attempt to cause others Duress. And think yourself Clever to have achieved your goal and gaslight others saying they ARE upset, or whatever cheesy term, tickles your fancy, to give you a means to deflect off point.

I’ve heard plenty of Catholics speak their own Words, of what THEY Believe, THEY DO, and WHY…

I have seen plenty of Popes, heard their Words…seen their Behaviors, Gestures.

I have Heard horror stories of Priests Behaviors AND How they exude accountability.

My Preference is to NOT Have a Relationship with the Catholic Church.

FREEWILL.

WHO ME · 2026-11-06T18:09:08-0600

The word was God, God has always been. God has no begining therefore God has no mother, the word calls mary the mother of Jesus but never calls her the mother of God.

God has no starting point.... you catholics have turned the mother of Jesus into the mother of God and the word doesnt say that...

amigo de christo · 2026-11-06T18:26:16-0600

David1701 said:
Ah, New Apostolic Reformation - thanks. I'll investigate.

many now be saying i never i say nevah thought i see the day texas went blue .
Good night . the dems whipped them like the stole something. it was a beating .
Poor ol abbot wont be able to sit down for a week on that behind of his .
BUT I DID WARN US DIDNT I .
You see the only one and only thing that was ever gonna be able to save , WAS AND IS GOD .
And this nation put its hopes in men and politics and the churches just kept on refusing to repent .

amigo de christo · 2026-11-06T18:32:03-0600

Taken said:
You are Not the ONLY Catholic…

Other Catholics Also Have their say, IN WHAT THEY “DO” and “Believe.”

As far as Catholics TEACHING Catholics…
They are TAUGHT By Instruction…
Verbal, Written “side book”, and Observance TO MINIC,
Catholic Popes, Catholic Priests, Catholic Elders, Catholic Nuns, Parents, Guardians.
…Behaviors, Gestures, Diagrams, Vows to Join the church, Support the Church, Attend the Church, Obey its Established Traditions, Rules and Doctrines. (As they change or remain the same.)

Not others…it is one of your Tactics to Attempt to cause others Duress. And think yourself Clever to have achieved your goal and gaslight others saying they ARE upset, or whatever cheesy term, tickles your fancy, to give you a means to deflect off point.

I’ve heard plenty of Catholics speak their own Words, of what THEY Believe, THEY DO, and WHY…

I have seen plenty of Popes, heard their Words…seen their Behaviors, Gestures.

I have Heard horror stories of Priests Behaviors AND How they exude accountability.

My Preference is to NOT Have a Relationship with the Catholic Church.

FREEWILL.

Man it brings me no joy or happiness to have to report .
Texas went BLUE ziggy and they are stunned about this one .
Imagine that even one of the most upmost wicked men won .
And poor ol abbot , m an that poor fellow probably wont be able to sit down for a week after that beat down .
They flat out whipped them like a red headed step child that stole something .
DONT bring me one bit of joy to see that wickedness .
BUT I DID WARN US . I DID warn us . YOU see its high time
for the church to stoping hoping in and trusting in men .
Maybe a wee bit of chastisments and persecutions might help put a lil more faith back into the church .
YOU ALL did this . so did the liberal left .
Putting yalls hopes into men . WHEN neither side even stands with GOD . abominations grow on both sides
and yet both sides always making excuses for their leaders .
AInt no blessing coming dear ziggy , not for america and not for the world .
TO GET A BLESSING , WELL Gods people have to REPENT of their wicked ways . AND NONE DOES buddy .
THEY all keep heading right into the ecumeincal inclusive peace of anti christ . So . prepare for a wake up call .
ONLY it aint what YALL think . My advice , REPENT and let us put all hope ONLY IN GOD and iN HIS CHRIST .

Why Christians Call Mary the Mother of God.

Well-Known Member

Well-Known Member

Well-Known Member

Well-Known Member

Active Member

Well-Known Member

Well-Known Member

Well-Known Member

Member

Well-Known Member

Active Member

Well-Known Member

Well-Known Member

New Member

Well-Known Member

Well-Known Member

Well-Known Member

Active Member

Well-Known Member

Well-Known Member

Similar threads