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You must be asleep if you've failed to notice the rising cost of living in America today. That's why people who voted for Trump in 2024 voted for democrats in 2026.

The cost of groceries, the cost of fuel, the cost of health insurance, the cost of property insurance, and the list goes on and on.

Instead of delivering on America First, and promising no new wars, Trump goes to war with Iran. It quickly became Israel First, and the American people voted their displeasure and made him a lame duck president.
and voting for democrats who historically hate gasolene and diesel and refuse to allow new oil refineries to be built wont bring prices down. What brings them down is Iran war ends, Ukraine stops bombing Russians refineries, and the US is allowed to increase the supply of diesel and gas. We still import a lot of refined petroleum products, and from Saudi Arabia too. And the Houthis are attacking them and trying to shut down the Suez canal and Bab El-Mandab strait.


If we really want cheap gas and diesel, then we would build more refineries and not get all upset when Trump wants to drill more oil and bring in Venezuelan crude. Democrats get highly offended about increasing oil production...they want all electric cars and electric heat pumps. They even hate natural gas.

If you notice democrats idolize western Europe and hold it up as an example for the US to become just like them, having massive immigration, electric car mandates, no oil and gas development (that is the wrong way they say) and global warming is existential legislation. They also dislike Christianity and really like Islam a lot. And also love socialist ideas over capitalist ideas.

Democrats are the opposite of what we need to have prosperous lives, their policies bring everyone down to a lowest common denominator, free this, free that, soak the rich, increase taxes to pay for more socialist programs, rich should not exist, EQUITY is the rule, remove personal responsibility for your current state in life and place your life in the hands of the few elite rulers, themselves.
 
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it was all but delusion meant to entertain the masses while BOTH SIDES did the same agenda .
You ever wonder why it was written
cursed is the man whose hope be in man . THIS WORLD ABOUT TO FIND OUT WHY that was written .
Wanna hear a solid truth . Texas also went blue .
Now pay close attention . about three or four years back the one world govt elites
spoke to the world all about a global AI LED digital system . And they made sure to say
NO worries humanity we will put safeguards in it to protect your rights .
THEN as Trump was running for office he made the cry , i will protect your rights and freedoms from AI digital .
THEN when elected signed in law something that actually DID quite the opposite of what he said it would do .
Now way down here in texas a democratic woman was running for govenor
and hollering out loudly against these AI DIGITAL CENTERS .
That she cried TRUMP and others are in bed with .
NOW reader watch this . WHEN she got elected
she was then asked will you now shut down and stop AI DATA centers from being done in texas .
TO which she said
THE SAME IDENTICAL THING the one world g ovt has said years ago ,
NO i wont stop them but i will make sure statues are set up to protect peoples rights .
WHEN THE HECK is this man trusting generaiton gonna realize , THEY ALL IN BED with the same agenda .
YOU said it best my friend and now i will echo what you said ,
TIME TO ABANDON ALL HOPE IN MEN , IN POLITICS ,
TIME TO HOPE AND TRUST ONLY IN GOD , IN HIS CHRIST and IN HIS words . bible time folks .
THEY ALL IN on the same agenda .
You are right about not putting trust in men. But the agenda you speak of actually has two parts--and they are not the same, one is evil, and one is good. This is a form of AntiChrist vs. Christ made manifest in society, and unless you know who is who, it is hard to tell the difference and perhaps end up blaming the wrong people.

Another way to rationalize or another analogy would be to understand that like a cop (good) speeds to catch and stop a speeder (bad), both are doing the same thing. But in this case of current affairs, everyone has a badge, red lights, and sirens. Very confusing. But it would be wrong to blame the good cop who was hired to chase down the speeders and those actually breaking the law. We need to understand that both forces are at work, and not just jump on the band wagon of those who provoke the crowds to hate and blame.
 
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This will be so interesting to watch it all unfold.
Democrats take the majority. The stock market crashes. (who invests the most in the stock markets? not the little guy)
Gas prices plummeting, the Fed will flip and lower interest rates making things more "affordable" .
And all this before Christmas.
Merry Christmas! LOL

Buyers remorse will be rampant.

That's just the U.S.
Watch the rest of the world.
It really is The Great Awakening.

 

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and voting for democrats who historically hate gasolene and diesel and refuse to allow new oil refineries to be built wont bring prices down. What brings them down is Iran war ends, Ukraine stops bombing Russians refineries, and the US is allowed to increase the supply of diesel and gas. We still import a lot of refined petroleum products, and from Saudi Arabia too. And the Houthis are attacking them and trying to shut down the Suez canal and Bab El-Mandab strait.


If we really want cheap gas and diesel, then we would build more refineries and not get all upset when Trump wants to drill more oil and bring in Venezuelan crude. Democrats get highly offended about increasing oil production...they want all electric cars and electric heat pumps. They even hate natural gas.

If you notice democrats idolize western Europe and hold it up as an example for the US to become just like them, having massive immigration, electric car mandates, no oil and gas development (that is the wrong way they say) and global warming is existential legislation. They also dislike Christianity and really like Islam a lot. And also love socialist ideas over capitalist ideas.

Democrats are the opposite of what we need to have prosperous lives, their policies bring everyone down to a lowest common denominator, free this, free that, soak the rich, increase taxes to pay for more socialist programs, rich should not exist, EQUITY is the rule, remove personal responsibility for your current state in life and place your life in the hands of the few elite rulers, themselves.
None off this matters to the average American. Their focus is on cost of living. What it costs to put food on the table, fuel prices, health insurance, etc. Republicans had no answer to these problems, and in some cases, made it even worse.

When they were confronted on these issues, like diesel costs, which effects literally everything, Trump was completely dismissive. Well of course it's not as issue for him. He's never bought his own groceries or pumped his own gas before in his life.
 

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None off this matters to the average American. Their focus is on cost of living. What it costs to put food on the table, fuel prices, health insurance, etc. Republicans had no answer to these problems, and in some cases, made it even worse.

When they were confronted on these issues, like diesel costs, which effects literally everything, Trump was completely dismissive. Well of course it's not as issue for him. He's never bought his own groceries or pumped his own gas before in his life.
You are going to have a lot to apologize for. But self-centered complainers who lack any greater vision rarely do. Sadly.
 
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None off this matters to the average American. Their focus is on cost of living. What it costs to put food on the table, fuel prices, health insurance, etc. Republicans had no answer to these problems, and in some cases, made it even worse.

When they were confronted on these issues, like diesel costs, which effects literally everything, Trump was completely dismissive. Well of course it's not as issue for him. He's never bought his own groceries or pumped his own gas before in his life.
He didn't need to talk about it. It was getting done.

How do you lower the cost of living?
You have to create more jobs. The U.S has 22 Trillion dollars of investments coming in building new factories and opening mines and building refineries. These create Jobs. Better paying jobs.
Apprenticeships and Trade Schools are opening around the country so people don't have to go in debt for a college degree to nowhere.
Less debt = lower cost of living.
You want to buy a new car made in the USA, not only creates jobs, improves the economy, but you get to write off the interest on the loan you took out to buy it.

Your boss says, business is picking up, can you stay a little late?
No tax on overtime. No tax on tips, specially helpful for those in the service industry who rely on tips for the bulk of their income.

And you know what? The democrats voted against all these.
They want to raise your taxes so you can pay for their pet projects and leave you wondering where the next job is coming from.
But then again, you can always earn a living picketing and protesting in the streets everyday for crumbs against things that have no
sense on protesting.

And those ones who have loyalties to other countries like Egypt and Iran and Palestine and Europe..
They don't care about America and they don't care about you.
They already proved that under Covid and all those loans they took at the tax payers expense and sent that cash all around the world to enrich themselves.

Yeah, no.
Things are about to flip on the globalists head and there will be fireworks I'm sure.
dangerous times folks.
But in the End,
God Wins!
:D Hugs
 
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By not going to war with Iran.
Again, you are being shallow and foolish, not thinking it through.

Iran is selling a huge percent of the world's oil to our enemies cheap, to those hurting our economy, to those who all the American jobs went to--and they want us dead. If you don't fix or stop Iran, you don't fix the problem. That's the problem. But Trump is doing just that--taking care of the problem--and what, you are against fixing the problem? Do you not understand how stupid that is? Are you really that foolish?
 

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Ready? LOL

You know who controls the funds for congress to bring lawsuits?
Congress funds lawsuit settlements and judgments against the federal government primarily through the permanent “Judgment Fund,” created in 1956, which allows payments without case‑by‑case congressional approval

The Judgment Fund:
The Judgment Fund is a permanent, indefinite appropriation established by Congress in 1956 under 31 U.S.C. § 1304 Bureau of the Fiscal Service Bureau of the Fiscal Service. It is managed by the Bureau of the Fiscal Service in the U.S. Treasury.


You know that Deficit running 40Trillion right now?
Sorry, we can't afford it.
Scott Bessent. U.S Treasury.

Watch this lol

 

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Again, you are being shallow and foolish, not thinking it through.

Iran is selling a huge percent of the world's oil to our enemies cheap, to those hurting our economy, to those who all the American jobs went to--and they want us dead. If you don't fix or stop Iran, you don't fix the problem. That's the problem. But Trump is doing just that--taking care of the problem--and what, you are against fixing the problem? Do you not understand how stupid that is? Are you really that foolish?
Iran selling oil does not hurt the American economy. You know what does? Iran closing the Strait of Hormuz because of the war.

In order to defeat Iran, the United States would have to physically invade the country with ground forces, depose the regime, and then occupy a hostile country that's the size of western Europe. The U.S. military is not capable of doing this. Hence why Trump is using a naval blockade to pressure the Iranians into surrendering.

It's not going to work, which is why Trump has been threatening a return to hostilities in the coming weeks. But bombing bridges, desalination plants, and power infrastructure, isn't going to work either.

The Iranians will launch missiles into other gulf states, like Saudi Arabia, targeting their desalination plants. When those are destroyed, the entire region is going to unravel even worse than it already has. Trump knows this, which is why he hasn't ordered the strikes yet.

But if he does, we're going to witness a humanitarian crisis the likes of which we've never seen before. Oil prices are going to skyrocket and the world economy will enter a depression.

Again, there's a reason no other president was willing to go along with Bibi in attacking Iran. Because it's just too risky and victory without a ground invasion is impossible, short of using nuclear weapons on the country.
 

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I need to invest in more popcorn LOL
And Congress is back in session on Monday.
I can hardly wait. lol

 

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Iran selling oil does not hurt the American economy. You know what does? Iran closing the Strait of Hormuz because of the war.

In order to defeat Iran, the United States would have to physically invade the country with ground forces, depose the regime, and then occupy a hostile country that's the size of western Europe. The U.S. military is not capable of doing this. Hence why Trump is using a naval blockade to pressure the Iranians into surrendering.

It's not going to work, which is why Trump has been threatening a return to hostilities in the coming weeks. But bombing bridges, desalination plants, and power infrastructure, isn't going to work either.

The Iranians will launch missiles into other gulf states, like Saudi Arabia, targeting their desalination plants. When those are destroyed, the entire region is going to unravel even worse than it already has. Trump knows this, which is why he hasn't ordered the strikes yet.

But if he does, we're going to witness a humanitarian crisis the likes of which we've never seen before. Oil prices are going to skyrocket and the world economy will enter a depression.

Again, there's a reason no other president was willing to go along with Bibi in attacking Iran. Because it's just too risky and victory without a ground invasion is impossible, short of using nuclear weapons on the country.
You need to get updated. You literally have no idea what you are talking about. But keep watching MSM and CNN, because they will drive you off the cliff for sure.

Here is the problem. I been posting videos explaining exactly what is happening behind the Global scene with the City of London and other Globalist shenanigans. But you CHOOSE to stay ignorant.
And I can't fix that.'
Keep watching MSM, MS NOW, CNN, even FOX News. Because none of them will tell you the truth because they get paid by the very people they are protecting.

Remaining ignorant is a choice.
Choose wisely.
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Again, you are being shallow and foolish, not thinking it through.

Iran is selling a huge percent of the world's oil to our enemies cheap, to those hurting our economy, to those who all the American jobs went to--and they want us dead. If you don't fix or stop Iran, you don't fix the problem. That's the problem. But Trump is doing just that--taking care of the problem--and what, you are against fixing the problem? Do you not understand how stupid that is? Are you really that foolish?

But isn't Russia helping our enemies too and selling oil to US enemies, and also aiding the Iranians? why then are we not at war with them too? Or North Korea for example....who already have nukes, why do we not attack them also?
 

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Iran selling oil does not hurt the American economy. You know what does? Iran closing the Strait of Hormuz because of the war.

In order to defeat Iran, the United States would have to physically invade the country with ground forces, depose the regime, and then occupy a hostile country that's the size of western Europe. The U.S. military is not capable of doing this. Hence why Trump is using a naval blockade to pressure the Iranians into surrendering.

It's not going to work, which is why Trump has been threatening a return to hostilities in the coming weeks. But bombing bridges, desalination plants, and power infrastructure, isn't going to work either.

The Iranians will launch missiles into other gulf states, like Saudi Arabia, targeting their desalination plants. When those are destroyed, the entire region is going to unravel even worse than it already has. Trump knows this, which is why he hasn't ordered the strikes yet.

But if he does, we're going to witness a humanitarian crisis the likes of which we've never seen before. Oil prices are going to skyrocket and the world economy will enter a depression.

Again, there's a reason no other president was willing to go along with Bibi in attacking Iran. Because it's just too risky and victory without a ground invasion is impossible, short of using nuclear weapons on the country.
Let me try to break it down for you.

You know how there are some people that receive snap benefits for their kids, but instead of putting food on the table they use it for alcohol and drugs?

That's what Iran was doing with the oil. They wasn't selling it to better the country and the people who live there. They was selling it to fund their terror organizations and their weapons endeavors.

At some point you have to hold people accountable and that's what we are doing.
 

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But isn't Russia helping our enemies too and selling oil to US enemies, and also aiding the Iranians? why then are we not at war with them too? Or North Korea for example....who already have nukes, why do we not attack them also?
Europe gets ALL of their oil from Russia.
If Russia can't sell their oil than Europe will FREEZE.
Which is the more humanitarian thing to do?

As far as NK goes you have to go back to 2017 when they had um an earthquake kind of, where they were hiding their nuclear weapons.
The oil from Russia isn't going to Iran. It's going to India, China, Australia, and other countries that don't have their own resources.
 

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The lesser of two evils has my vote, democrats support and promote killing the innocent unborn and same sex marriage, on those two things alone I vote Republican

Vance-Rubio 2028 (America First) MAGA
I wonder how many pro abortion and LGBTQ people profess to be Christian. I can't imagine even sitting in their church.
 

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You must be asleep if you've failed to notice the rising cost of living in America today. That's why people who voted for Trump in 2024 voted for democrats in 2026.

The cost of groceries, the cost of fuel, the cost of health insurance, the cost of property insurance, and the list goes on and on.

Instead of delivering on America First, and promising no new wars, Trump goes to war with Iran. It quickly became Israel First, and the American people voted their displeasure and made him a lame duck president.
When Joe Biden took office on January 20, 2021, the average U.S. price of regular gasoline was approximately $2.39 per gallon.

PeriodAverage price
January 2021$2.39
June 2022 (peak)$5.01
 
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But isn't Russia helping our enemies too and selling oil to US enemies, and also aiding the Iranians? why then are we not at war with them too?
Russia even sells oil to the United States. Trump made the deal with Putin and bragged about it. Germany bought up to 70% of it's energy from Russia prior to the war in Ukraine. The reality is, most countries want to do business if it's in their interest to do so.

Or North Korea for example....who already have nukes, why do we not attack them also?
What would be the point? There's no strategic value in attacking NK.