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I trust Jesus and His word. It is satan who says we can sin and not die. And by "die in your sin" I mean a total rejection and renouncement of the faith you once believed would save you. We have been warned about this. If you believe you can die in sin and still make it to glory you are not trusting Jesus. You are trusting satan and his original lie.
I am not talking about people who are walking with Jesus. I am talking about those that fall away. You seem to think that one can do that and still make.
What Christian does that!
Hardly!! What a thing to say!
How would you define regeneration?
Joshua Harris – The former megachurch pastor and bestselling author of I Kissed Dating Goodbye publicly announced in 2019 that he was no longer a Christian, apologizing for his past teachings and joining the LGBTQ+ community in solidarity
I only say that IF you think one can totally forsake Christ and still be saved. If you say they were never saved to begin with...then that's a different story.
Have you actually read his writings? He said he never did believe. Did you know that?
How do you define "twice dead and plucked by the roots"?
It is statements like this that let me know what kind of person you are and why you misread the bible. If you can't understand the words of a simple man like me how can you hope to understand the Almighty God and the mysteries of His word?
I am not going to argue with you anymore. Discussions with you always decay into some kind of immature tantrum.
Everyone who falls away like this will claim they never believed. What's the surprise in that?
I'm just going to stick with what the Bible says. The regenerate never stop being regenerate, while pretenders fall away. Bottom line.
Well, if you care about what the fellow says about himself, he never was a Christian. If you prefer your own opinion that he was, so that will make your case, feel free, but don't expect that I'll believe it. I've read a good bit that he himself wrote on this very topic, and you've got it wrong.
At the very least, I'd like to ask you to consider these questions that you haven't been able or willing to answer, as these Scriptures mean what they say.
The scriptures do mean what they say...just not what you say they mean. Do you honestly think you have any new questions for someone who has dealt with this subject on both sides for over 50 years? One of the most important lessons I have learned is to not waste time on people who think they know everything but in reality, know very little. You can always tell when they get triggered because they break a single post into several demanding, like a spoiled child, that every question be answered. I'm done playing that game.
No what I mean is here and now we don’t possess eternal salvation but the initial grace of justification, grace not salvation.
Rather than making such comments, you might want to consider that I've posted this way for many years. I don't like to put a lot of different things in posts for the most part.
I do not think you understand these things regarding us bearing fruit to God versus our works we do.
You're good Randy Dawson!
