the answer is yes people should read and study the book they put faith in but what I was saying is around 80% do not, my faith in humanity severely drops at such a pointStanJ said:So are you answering yes or no to the question of the op?
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the answer is yes people should read and study the book they put faith in but what I was saying is around 80% do not, my faith in humanity severely drops at such a pointStanJ said:So are you answering yes or no to the question of the op?
Good, and 80% sounds high to me but regardless, we do what we know to do as obedient to the Holy Spirit.Samael said:the answer is yes people should read and study the book they put faith in but what I was saying is around 80% do not, my faith in humanity severely drops at such a point
Ignorance of Christ is ignorance of teh truth, many know the bible few know Jesus, if they knew Him they would be running from religion.
The book is the word of God and what would make you think otherwise?bbyrd009 said:most people still think the Book is the Word, so one has to get that sorted out to even start making sense imo
and I can't run fast enough.mjrhealth said:Ignorance of Christ is ignorance of teh truth, many know the bible few know Jesus, if they knew Him they would be running from religion.
um. Because i know, for a fact, that It is not, StanJ, even though we have been assured that It is. It is not. The Bible is God~Breathed, iow It came from Word, but It is not Pneuma, Dabhar, Word. Or elseStanJ said:The book is the word of God and what would make you think otherwise?
mjrhealth said:Ignorance of Christ is ignorance of teh truth, many know the bible few know Jesus, if they knew Him they would be running from religion.
"The Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us" (John 1:14).. If the Word was manifested in the flesh, and the bible accurately records it, then the bible is God's recorded wordbbyrd009 said:It is, most definitely, not God's Word,,,,,,,,until you understand that the Book is not the Word, you have not found Word yet.
And the only way i know to verify this is with the Book, lol.
But see, Dan, you did not bring the verse i corrupted, to show the point, and deal with that, now, did you? And i understand, ok. This is a hard hill to get over. It seems as if the Book is being made light if, or dismissed or something, when that is not the case. I read the Book now more than i ever did. Now, i keep the Lex open now, and i find out what that weird name means, and i find out what the name of that town represents, i read It differently now, but i no longer worship the Book, because the Book is not the Word. Another way to look at it is that even if the Book accurately recorded it then--which It did, of course, being God~Breathed--Word is now, It is the moving finger, that writes, and having writ, moves on.Dan57 said:"The Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us" (John 1:14).. If the Word was manifested in the flesh, and the bible accurately records it, then the bible is God's recorded word
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Imagine if there were no bible.. Who was Jesus? What did he do? What was his message, purpose, etc? Without the bible, we wouldn't know any of that.
have you read the ancient scrolls..https://www.amazon.com/Ancient-Book-Gad-Seer-Johnson/dp/153916487X/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_product_top?ie=UTF8kepha31 said:Where did Jesus give instructions that the Christian faith should be based exclusively on a book?
How did the early Church evangelize and overthrow the Roman Empire, survive and prosper almost 350 years, without knowing for sure which books belong in the canon of Scripture?
You can't just pull Greek words out of thin air and say what they are or aren't as far as the Bible is concerned. John 1:1&14, says that the Word (logos), WAS God and became flesh. The spoken and written word are of and from God. Word is also found in the Greek word polylogia, which connotes words or language. All scripture is indeed the word of God and as Paul wrote 2 Timothy 3:16; All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness, so that the servant of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work.bbyrd009 said:It is, most definitely, not God's Word, which is Pneuma, Breath, Dabhar. Rhema is not Pneuma, no matter how much you have been indoctrinated to believe otherwise, and you cannot Witness the pov from Scripture, even though it seems initially that you can. If the Book is the Word, then you have to admit the following verse is accurate and true, which i don't even know why i bother because of course, no one wants to face it anyway
In the beginning was the Bible, and the Bible was with God, and the Bible was God.
this does not diminish the importance of the Book, but rather allows you to now go and find Word, whenever you are ready, and trust that until you understand that the Book is not the Word, you have not found Word yet.
And the only way i know to verify this is with the Book, lol.
"pull Greek words out of thin air," lol, kind of poetic here imo. The written word is words, and not Word, God, Breath, Pneuma, is the argument. "Word" is therefore not contained in "polylogia," or else you just have "many Gods." The Word is God, and became flesh...just going through your reply here...Ah, "All Scripture is indeed the Word of God." In this case, "Easter" becomes the Word of God, see, and you already know this is a lie, that is just some words that KJ put in, and which demonstrates why the Bible is not Word, if "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Bible was God" is not proof enough. All Scripture is God~Breathed, when It was Breathed, but you have a translator in between you and the Word there, meaning that by definition there is no breath on your neck, ergo there is no Word, regardless of the fact that 2Tim3 et al are still true, i am not disputing any of those, ok.StanJ said:You can't just pull Greek words out of thin air and say what they are or aren't as far as the Bible is concerned. John 1:1&14, says that the Word (logos), WAS God and became flesh. The spoken and written word are of and from God. Word is also found in the Greek word polylogia, which connotes words or language. All scripture is indeed the word of God and as Paul wrote 2 Timothy 3:16; All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness, so that the servant of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work.
David wrote in Psalm 119:11; I have hidden your word in my heart that I might not sin against you.
How do you know "In the beginning was the Word"? Of course the bible wasn't in the beginning, but it records what was.bbyrd009 said:But really, you are done when you cannot address "In the beginning was the Bible, and the Bible was with God, and the Bible was God," doesn't it seem?