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Who the hell is 'we'?

Sounds good. You understand the day in (Gen. 1) is a 24 hour day. Because Scripture says so. You understand the sun and moon was not created until the 4th day, because the Bible says so. You understand that the 'light' prior to the 4th day, was the light of God. Glad you and I are in agreement.

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You wish!
 

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...Note in the Tabernacle the different types of light. In the outer court the light was from the light of the sun, an artificial light. When you enter into the Holy place, the light was from the lampstand, an artificial light. But in the Holy of Holies, there was no artificial light. It was the light of God.

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Simply beautiful. Loved this. Thank you for being a vessel of service.
 

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Gen 1:2c . . and Spirit of God was moving over the surface of the waters.

When that verse is considered with Gen 1:9; it's readily deduced that that
the Earth's surface was completely submerged at first; so that the planet
has been flooded twice in the past; but that was it.

Gen 9:11 . . I will maintain My covenant with you: never again shall all
flesh be cut off by the waters of a flood, and never again shall there be a
flood to destroy the earth.

Noah needed to hear that so he wouldn't get jumpy the next time it started
to rain really hard in his neighborhood. There is still flooding going on in the
world, but certainly not on the same scale as the Flood.

Gen 1:6-8 . . And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the
waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters. And God made the
firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the
waters which were above the firmament: and it was so.

We can easily guess what is meant by water that's below the sky. But is
there really water that's above it? Yes, and it's a lot! According to an article
in the Sept 2013 issue of National Geographic magazine, Earth's atmosphere
holds roughly 3,095 cubic miles of water in the form of vapor. That may
seem like a preposterous number of cubic miles of water; but not really
when it's considered that Lake Superior's volume alone is estimated at
nearly 3,000.

Our home planet is really big; a whole lot bigger than people sometimes
realize. It's surface area, in square miles, is 196,940,000. To give an idea of
just how many square miles that is: if somebody were to wrap a belt around
the equator made of one-mile squares; it would only take 24,902 squares to
complete the distance; which is a mere .00012644 the surface area.

Some of the more familiar global warming gases are carbon dioxide,
fluorocarbons, methane, and ozone. But as popular as those gases are with
the media, they're bit players in comparison to the role that ordinary water
vapor plays in global warming. By some estimates; atmospheric water vapor
accounts for more than 90% of global warming; which is not a bad thing
because without atmospheric water vapor, the earth would be so cold that
the only life that could exist here would be extremophiles.

How much water is below the expanse? Well; according to the same article;
the amount contained in swamp water, lakes and rivers, ground water, and
oceans, seas, and bays adds up to something like 326.6 million cubic miles;
and that's not counting the 5.85 million cubic miles tied up in living
organisms, soil moisture, ground ice and permafrost, ice sheets, glaciers,
and permanent snow.

To put that in perspective: a tower 326.6 million miles high would exceed
the Sun's distance better than 3½ times.

Gen 1:9 . . And God said, Let the waters under the heaven be gathered
together unto one place, and let the dry land appear: and it was so.

Shaping the earth's mantle in order to form low spots for the seas and high
spots for dry ground was a colossal feat of magma convection and volcanism
combined with the titanic forces of tectonic plate subduction.

At the ocean's deepest surveyed point-- the Challenger Deep; located in the
Mariana Islands group, at the southern end of the Mariana Trench --the
water's depth is over 11,000 meters; which is about 6.8 statute miles
(36,000 feet). That depth corresponds to the cruising altitude of a Boeing
747. At that altitude, probably about all you're going to see of the airliner
without straining your eyes is its contrail.

Africa's Mt Kilimanjaro is the tallest free-standing mountain on earth at
19,341 feet above its land base. If Kilimanjaro were placed in the Challenger
Deep, it would have about 16,659 feet of water over its peak. Were the
tallest point of the Himalayan range-- Mt Everest --to be submerged in the
Challenger Deep, it would have about 7,000 feet of water over its peak.
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Hello "Zuno" and "Cliff and Joanne Weber"

http://cfbac.org/genesis.htm

http://www.religionforums.org/Thread-Making-Our-Way-Thru-Genesis

https://onlinebaptist.com/forums/topic/27182-daily-genesis/

https://onlinebaptist.com/profile/31102-zuno_yazh/

It seems you are sharing the same material in several other places.

You do realize that the earth was not "flooded" twice.

It is as the Birth and Baptism of us.

Born in water. Later Submerged in water.

The Flood was Judgment of God upon the earth for sin, a burial of sin.
 

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Gen 1:3 . . Then God said "Let there be light" and there was light.

The creation of light was a very, very intricate process. First God had to
create particulate matter, and along with those particles their specific
properties, including mass; if any. Then He had to invent the laws of nature
to govern how matter behaves in combination with and/or in the presence
of, other kinds of matter in order to generate electromagnetic radiation.

Light's properties are curious. It propagates as waves in a variety of lengths
and frequencies, and also as quantum bits called photons. And though light
has no mass; it's influenced by gravity. Light is also quite invisible to the
naked eye. For example: you can see the Sun when you look at it, and you
can see the Moon when sunlight reflects from its surface. But none of the
Sun's light is visible to you in the void between them and that's because
light isn't matter; it's energy-- some might even say force --and there is
really a lot of it.

Space was at time thought to contain absolutely nothing until radio
astronomers discovered something called the cosmic microwave background.
In a nutshell: CMB fills the universe with light that apparently radiates from
no detectable source. The popular notion is that CMB is energy left over from
the Big Bang.

The same laws that make it possible for matter to generate electromagnetic
radiation also make other conditions possible too; e.g. fire, wind, water, ice,
soil, rain, life, centrifugal force, thermodynamics, fusion, dark energy,
gravity, atoms, organic molecules, magnetism, color, radiation, refraction,
reflection, high energy X-rays and gamma rays, temperature, pressure,
force, inertia, sound, friction, and electricity; et al. So the creation of light
was a pretty big deal; yet Genesis scarcely gives its origin passing mention.

2Cor 4:6 verifies that light wasn't introduced into the cosmos from outside in
order to dispel the darkness and brighten things up a bit; but rather, it
radiated out of the cosmos from inside-- from itself --indicating that the
cosmos was created to be self-illuminating by means of the various
interactions of the matter that God made for it; including, but not limited to,
the Higgs Boson.

You know it's curious to me that most people have no trouble readily
conceding that everything else in the first chapter of Genesis is natural, e.g.
the cosmos, the earth, the atmosphere, water, dry land, the Sun, the Moon,
the stars, aqua life, winged life, terra life, flora life, and human life.

But when it comes to light they choke; finding it impossible within
themselves to believe that Genesis just might be consistent in its description
of the creative process. I mean, if all those other things are natural, why
wouldn't light be natural too? In point of fact, without natural light, planet
Earth would become a cold dead world right quick.


NOTE: An interesting thing about the laws of nature is that they're not
absolute laws. No; they are created laws-- created as a companion to the
created cosmos to regulate how the cosmos, with all of its forms of life,
matter, and energy, behaves. Seeing as how God designed and created
those laws, then He knows the secrets to manipulating them in order to
make things in our world behave quite contrary to common sense.

Take for example the floating axe head in 2Kgs 6:5-6. Solid chunks of iron
don't float. That's unnatural. Another example is the fire-proof bush of Ex
3:2. A bush that's impervious to fire is unnatural. It should have flared up
and Moses knew it too but it didn't because God can easily modify the
natural behavior of everything He ever created.
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Gen 1:3 . . Then God said "Let there be light" and there was light.

The creation of light...
Please, go read, 2 Corinthians 4:4-6; John 1:7-9; Revelation 21:23 &c.

If you read carefully and prayerfully, it doesn't say God "made" the light on Day one as things were on other days. It just says "Let there be light ..." Jesus, JEHOVAH Immanuel, can let His glory shine forth, even though God is often seen surrounded with dark waters.

Psa 18:10 And he rode upon a cherub, and did fly: yea, he did fly upon the wings of the wind.
Psa 18:11 He made darkness his secret place; his pavilion round about him were dark waters and thick clouds of the skies.
 

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Please, go read 2 Corinthians 4:4-6, John 1:7-9, Revelation 21:23

Please go read post #46; prayerfully and carefully.

BTW: Your take on the matter, whatever it might be, is fine with me.
Viewers are entitled to a second opinion.
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The very definition of 'heresy'.

Do you honestly believe that your interpretations of the Bible are 100%
infallible and speaking for God ex cathedra?

Let me give you some friendly advice Benjamin Calvary. Don't be conceited.
Leave yourself some room for error lest the hapless day arrives when it's
discovered that you yourself were a heretic all along and didn't know it.
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Non human life for the Earth was created on a different scale than human
life. Non human life was created in swarms, while human life was created
just one solo individual.

Gen 2:7 . .The Lord God formed the man from the dust of the ground and
breathed into his nostrils the breath of life, and the man became a living
being.

That one human life has the distinction of being the only human life that God
ever created directly from the dust of the ground. All other human life
descends from that one human life, including women, because they were
formed from some material amputated from that first human life's body.

This means that any and all human life made from women are descendants
of that first human life that God created from the dust of the ground;
whether virgin conceived or naturally conceived makes no difference.

Acts 17:26 . . He made from one man every nation of mankind to live on
all the face of the earth

The koiné Greek word for "nation" is ethnos (eth'-nos) which basically refers
to races, which for brevity's sake I'll just label Caucasoid, Mongoloid,
Negroid, and Australoid. There's a variety of sub groupings within those major
divisions.

Some Christians are adamantly, and sometimes even angrily, opposed to
any and all forms of evolution. But if we don't allow for at least a modicum
of somatic mutations and adaptations we'll be hard pressed to provide an
adequate explanation for the variety of human life on Earth, including
Pygmy, that descended from the one and only human life that God created
directly from the dust of the ground.
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Non human life for the Earth was created on a different scale than human
life. Non human life was created in swarms, while human life was created
just one solo individual.

This of course is merely an inference, self-interpretation; there are no direct statements of scripture which state that the Lord created any of the lower creation in mass.

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Gen 2:7 . .The Lord God formed the man from the dust of the ground and
breathed into his nostrils the breath of life, and the man became a living
being.

That one human life has the distinction of being the only human life that God
ever created directly from the dust of the ground. All other human life
descends from that one human life, including women, because they were
formed from some material amputated from that first human life's body.

This means that any and all human life made from women are descendants
of that first human life that God created from the dust of the ground;
whether virgin conceived or naturally conceived makes no difference.

Acts 17:26 . . He made from one man every nation of mankind to live on
all the face of the earth

The koiné Greek word for "nation" is ethnos (eth'-nos) which basically refers
to races, which for brevity's sake I'll just label Caucasoid, Mongoloid,
Negroid, and Australoid. There's a variety of sub groupings within those major
divisions.

With this we are in full agreement.

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Some Christians are adamantly, and sometimes even angrily, opposed to
any and all forms of evolution. But if we don't allow for at least a modicum
of somatic mutations and adaptations we'll be hard pressed to provide an
adequate explanation for the variety of human life on Earth, including
Pygmy, that descended from the one and only human life that God created
directly from the dust of the ground.
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The statement, “the earth and sea brought forth according to its kind” leaves open the possibility of an evolutionary process by which the lower creation developed up to the point where they reached fixity of class, nature, genera as divinely intended, however with regards to animals of which man is the highest, Gen 1:25 shows that no evolutionary process took place with regards to animals, but that the Lord directed the matter personally. “And God made (created) the beast of the earth according to its kind…”, “Let us make (create) man in our image…”

As for any evolutionary process with respects to the creation of man, NO! , however this does not forgo any subsequent adaptation to his environment, as is self-evident in the many varieties of human life found upon the planet
 
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Gen 2:1-2 . .The heaven and the earth were finished, and all their array.

Some feel that the Earth was created incomplete, not quite up to snuff: that
it was to Man that God entrusted the task of putting on the finishing
touches. But that is very doubtful. Why ever would God, after an overall
inspection, conclude His work by pronouncing it all good-- and not just good,
but "very" good (Gen 1:31). Why would He say the creation was very good if
in truth it needed finishing touches?

In reality, humans haven't improved the planet at all. They've actually
ravaged Earth and left it with terrible damage-- leveled mountains, dried up
rivers, emptied lakes, drained marshes, indiscriminately obliterated habitat,
wiped out animals to extinction, scraped away perfectly good cropland and
replaced it with warehouses and factories and malls and residential
communities.

A prime example of this kind of destruction is INTEL's massive Ronler Acres
Campus located on what was once agricultural land in Hillsboro Oregon.
Thousands of cubic yards of perfectly good topsoil was scraped away during
construction of the facility. What did they do with it? Was it transferred
elsewhere in order to use it for farming? No, instead INTEL used it to build a
massive privacy berm all around the facility where the soil will never again
grow food. NIKE did the very same thing with the topsoil scraped away
during construction of its facility in Beaverton.

Denuded watersheds cause unnecessary erosion and stream sedimentation.
Dams disrupt ancient fish migrations. Man has over-exploited natural
resources, filled the atmosphere with toxins and greenhouse gas emissions,
poisoned aquifers, contaminated soil and waterways with chemical fertilizers,
pesticides, and herbicides; littered the oceans with billions of pounds of
plastic, made possible super germs, and seriously upset the balance of
nature.

It seems that most everything humanity touches, it ruins; and as if the Earth
isn't enough, humanity moved out into space where in the years since
Russia launched its first Sputnik into low Earth orbit on Oct 04, 1957,
humans have littered the sky around their planet with 13,000 catalogued
pieces of space junk, which is only a fraction of the more than 600,000
objects circling the globe larger than one centimeter (a centimeter is a little
over 3/8ths of an inch). Humans have even discarded 374,782 pounds of
litter on the Moon, including the golf balls that astronaut Alan Shepherd left
behind. And now there's talk of a manned mission to Mars?
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... on the Moon, including the golf balls that astronaut Alan Shepherd left
behind. And now there's talk of a manned mission to Mars?
Nonsense. Apollo program was/is a lie (as is the 'mars' 'program').

Even now [since the Cross] satan is trapped here, unable to leave [1 Timothy 6:7; Revelation 12:8-13; Romans 5:6 [combined with Revelation 12:10]; 2 Corinthians 4:4 [this world only and no other worldly body in the heavens] KJB]. Do not let N.A.S.A lie to you. Mankind [as in men themselves] never set foot upon the moon [and there is no rover on mars], the Bible says so. Though satan would love for mankind to be able to leave, and is working as hard as he can so that it could happen, so that he would conduct his warfare again in Heaven, by spreading fallen mankind and sin all over the sinless universe, and the unfallen worlds, he is limited. He presents a false front, he is attempting a counterfeit ladder to Heaven [a siege-tower of Babel, climbing up some other way, than the Way] through the so-called space program.

N.A.S.A. - Not Always Scientifically Accurate
N.A.S.A. - Never A Straight Answer
N.A.S.A. - Numerous Anomalies Scams Abound
N.A.S.A. - National Academy of Space Actors
N.A.S.A. - Not Anything, Simply Aether,
N.A.S.A. - Neither Aerospace, Sadly, Astro-NOTS!
N.A.S.A. - Never Accept the Serpents Assertions.






I have hundreds of videos (moon and mars), and documentation, of the deception that was placed before the people. There are many persons that have gone into great detail (though I do not necessarily agree with everything stated as conclusion) on these things also with documentation from N.A.S.A. itself, photos altered, sounds in space, size of rockets, fuel, batteries, air, airconditioning, visors, LEM, flags freely moving in space, (most of whom are atheist, agnostic, etc: Bill Kaysing, Ralph Rene (Nasa Mooned America), David S. Percy, James Collier (Was It Only A Paper Moon), Bart Sibrel (Astronauts Gone Wild), Marcus Allen, Richard D. Hall (RichPlanetTV), Andrew Johnson, Jim Fetzer, Jarrah White and many, many others)
 
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Nonsense. Apollo program was/is a lie (as is the 'mars' 'program').

Even now [since the Cross] satan is trapped here, unable to leave [1 Timothy 6:7; Revelation 12:8-13; Romans 5:6 [combined with Revelation 12:10]; 2 Corinthians 4:4 [this world only and no other worldly body in the heavens] KJB]. Do not let N.A.S.A lie to you. Mankind [as in men themselves] never set foot upon the moon [and there is no rover on mars], the Bible says so. Though satan would love for mankind to be able to leave, and is working as hard as he can so that it could happen, so that he would conduct his warfare again in Heaven, by spreading fallen mankind and sin all over the sinless universe, and the unfallen worlds, he is limited. He presents a false front, he is attempting a counterfeit ladder to Heaven [a siege-tower of Babel, climbing up some other way, than the Way] through the so-called space program.

N.A.S.A. - Not Always Scientifically Accurate
N.A.S.A. - Never A Straight Answer
N.A.S.A. - National Academy of Space Actors
N.A.S.A. - Not Anything, Simply Aether,
N.A.S.A. - Neither Aerospace, Sadly, Astro-NOTS!
N.A.S.A. - Never Accept the Serpents Assertions.

...

I have hundreds of videos (moon and mars), and documentation, of the deception that was placed before the people. There are many persons that have gone into great detail (though I do not necessarily agree with everything stated as conclusion) on these things also with documentation from N.A.S.A. itself, photos altered, sounds in space, size of rockets, fuel, batteries, air, airconditioning, visors, LEM, flags freely moving in space, (most of whom are atheist, agnostic, etc: Bill Kaysing, Ralph Rene (Nasa Mooned America), David S. Percy, James Collier (Was It Only A Paper Moon), Bart Sibrel (Astronauts Gone Wild), Marcus Allen, Richard D. Hall (RichPlanetTV), Andrew Johnson, Jim Fetzer, Jarrah White and many, many others)
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Plain as day, that there are workers of the night.

Isa_29:15 Woe unto them that seek deep to hide their counsel from the LORD, and their works are in the dark, and they say, Who seeth us? and who knoweth us?
 

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Gen 2:2-3 . . On the seventh day God finished his work that he had done,
and he rested on the seventh day from all his work that he had done. So
God blessed the seventh day and made it holy, because on it God rested
from all his work that he had done in creation.

That passage states that the creator stopped making things for the current
cosmos after the sixth day wrapped; yet people are still under the
impression that He creates new souls every time a baby is conceived in its
mommy's womb. But the seventh day isn't bounded by an evening and a
morning; viz: it has not yet ended; God has been on sabbatical ever since,
i.e. God hasn't gone back to creating things for the current cosmos.

Adam's progeny-- you and I and all the others --are not direct creations; no;
we're reproductions; viz: there's no need for mankind's creator to take a
hand in producing baby souls, or any other kinds of souls for that matter
because He created all life on earth as sustainable, transferable kinds of life.
The blessing of fertility is a remarkable blessing because it enables living
things to reproduce themselves sans divine micro management.

"My frame was not hidden from you, when I was being made in secret,
intricately woven in the depths of the earth. Your eyes saw my unformed
substance; in your book were written, every one of them, the days that were
formed for me, when as yet there was none of them." (Ps 139:15)

The "depths of the earth" is a reference to Gen 2:7 talking about the
beginning of mankind. We were all there in the making-- Adam's posterity
isn't created directly form the dust of the ground; they are created from it
indirectly, as Adam's reproductions-- pretty amazing when you think about
it.

In the future; after the current cosmos is destroyed, God will once again roll
up His sleeves, and go back to work creating things.

"For, behold, I create new heavens and a new earth: and the former shall
not be remembered, nor come into mind." (Isa 65:17)

"But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the
heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with
fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned
up . . . we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth,
wherein dwelleth righteousness." (2Pet 3:10-13)

"And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first
earth were passed away; and there was no more sea." (Rev 21:1)

Q: What about 2Cor 5:17 and Gal 6:15 where it speaks of Christians a new
creations?

A: Born-again Christians start out in this cosmos; but this cosmos is not
where they belong, i.e. they're fish out of water, so to speak.

Col 1:13 . . The Father has delivered us from the power of darkness, and
translated us into the kingdom of his dear Son.

Phil 3:20 . . Our citizenship is in heaven.
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Gen 1:16 . . He made the stars also.

Alexander Friedmann's theory of an expanding universe was lent some
credibility by Edwin Hubble's discovery that galaxies, in all directions, appear
to be moving away from each other. Further studies revealed that the
movement isn't steady.

For example: A galaxy called GN-z11 was reported by NASA in 2016 to be
about 13½ billion light years distant based on an analysis of the spectrum of
its starlight. But that was its observed distance. All during the millennia that
its light was traveling to our neighborhood of the cosmos; GN-z11 was
moving away. It's so-called "proper distance" is 32 billion light years.


NOTE: Light years aren't a measure of age, they're only a measure of
distance. In other words: GN-z11's proper distance doesn't really tell us how
old it is; only how far away it is.

Some felt that the effects of universal gravity would limit the cosmos'
expansion and make it slow down; eventually stop it from expanding, and
make everything shrink back to its original state. But we now know from the
supernova studies of Saul Perlmutter, Brian Schmidt, and Adam Reiss that
the universe is not only expanding, but contrary to sensible expectations,
the velocity of its expansion is accelerating; viz: gravity isn't slowing the
expansion down at all, it's actually speeding up.

To illustrate that; let's imagine for a moment that the cosmos was
expanding at 500 meters per second at 06:00 am this morning. By noon it
might conceivably be expanding at 600 meters per second. (There's a
mathematical term called the Hubble Constant for figuring out things like
this)

There's something out there in the cosmos labeled, for convenience sake;
dark energy. Nobody yet knows its source; but it is so strong that all the
gravity of all the known matter cannot stop the dark energy from expanding
the universe at an ever-increasing velocity. At that rate; the cosmos will
never of its own accord stop expanding in order to shrink itself back into one
solid glob of highly condensed material.

But I have to ask: towards what is the cosmos expanding? Where does the
void end; if at all? My gosh; how much longer, and how much further can
the cosmos' expansion possibly continue until it bumps into something or
else pops like a colossal bubble? And if there is something to bump into out
there; then what is it, and what's on the other side? Is the void infinite?

Of interest to me is the limits of the cosmos' observable horizon. In other
words; seeing as how the universe has always been expanding, then it's
conceivable that there are portions of the universe that are now so far away
that we will never, ever be able to see them. The problem is: the further
away a source of light is, the smaller its observed dimensions and thus the
dimmer it's light until the source is so far away that an observer cannot
detect even the faintest glimmer.

It took the HST ten days of exposure time for its cameras to gather enough
light to resolve objects in the Hubble Deep Field. There's going to come a
time when no matter how big the telescope and no matter how long its
cameras stare into space, there are going to be objects out there that will
never be seen.

The discovery of the cosmos' accelerating expansion was very discouraging
for cosmologist Alan Sandage since he was once a proponent of the theory
that the universe would some day shrink upon itself; and called the
discovery of the ever-increasing velocity of the expanding universe a
"terrible surprise." At a 1998 cosmologists conference in Berkeley California,
Mr. Sandage told the gathering that contemplating the majesty of the big
bang helped make him a believer in God; and willing to accept that the
creation of the cosmos could only be explained as a miracle.

But even the Big Bang is problematic. Banged from what? Where did the
material come from that banged? And how long had that material been in
existence before it got around to banging?
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Theoretical physicist Stephen Hawking spent a large percentage of his life
figuring out how the cosmos works; but had to admit that he couldn't figure
out the "why" of the cosmos; viz: why it exists at all instead of nothing at
all.

I was once asked by a co-worker why I believed the Bible. I replied that the
Bible takes a simple, uneducated welder like me and gives him the answers
to questions for which the best and brightest have no scientific explanation.

I may not know everything there is to know about how the cosmos works,
but through the science of faith rather than physics, I know whence the
cosmos came and I know why it exists rather than nothing existing at all.

Rev 4:11 . .Thou art worthy, O Lord, to receive glory and honor and
power: for thou hast created all things, and for thy pleasure they are, and
were, created.

This aging, retired old welder is one of the created things mentioned in that
passage. I am insignificant in the grand scale of the cosmos with all of its
life, matter, and energy; yet I exist per God's pleasure just the same as all
the millions of wondrous galaxies floating around out there in the void.

Carl Sagan once remarked that extraordinary claims require extraordinary
evidence. Well; personally, I consider the cosmos with all of its life, matter,
and energy to be the most extraordinary evidence imaginable.

Rom 1:19-20 . .What may be known about God is plain to them, because
God has made it plain to them. For since the creation of the world God's
invisible qualities-- his eternal power and divine nature --have been clearly
seen, being understood from what has been made, so that men are without
excuse.

The cosmos has been pounding the pulpit for God since time immemorial.

Ps 19:1-4 . .The heavens declare the glory of God; the skies proclaim the
work of his hands. Day after day they pour forth speech; night after night
they display knowledge. There is no speech or language where their voice is
not heard. Their voice goes out into all the earth, their words to the ends of
the world.

Back in 1980 there was a thirteen-part series on television called "COSMOS:
A Personal Voyage
" hosted by Carl Sagan. I didn't watch the series at that
time; and only recently viewed it on YouTube. It was my first experience
with Mr. Sagan. I'd heard of him, but never actually listened to him speak.

Well, it turns out; I really like the man. Sagan was very personable; sort of
like Mr. Rogers: he was sincere, charming, soft-spoken, and educational;
coupled with a talent for explaining difficult concepts on a layman's level.
Sagan was a perfect front man for the scientific community.

But he was an atheist. Sagan stood against beliefs that the cosmos-- its life,
matter, and energy --is the result of intelligent design.

Well; if there really is a heaven and a hell, then of course Sagan is definitely
in the wrong place; and my heart goes out to him as I can only imagine the
terrible, crushing disappointment that poor man must be feeling. His life's
work was for naught: just a hobby-- an interesting way to pass the time
until his time was up.
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But if we don't allow for at least a modicum
of somatic mutations and adaptations we'll be hard pressed to provide an
adequate explanation for the variety of human life on Earth, including
Pygmy, that descended from the one and only human life that God created
directly from the dust of the ground.
Variety within species does not necessarily require evolution. All of nature attests to the fact that there is TREMENDOUS VARIETY within all species, and this shows that as far as God is concerned "variety is the spice of life". God simply designed variety into His creation.
 

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...God simply designed variety into His creation.
Yep, just as mankind created vehicles with "air-conditioning" and "heater", and "seats" that can "raise" and "lower", move "forward" and "backward", and wheels that can turn "left" and "right" (and some in all directions these days) and some vehicles can even "raise" and "lower" and some cars come with sun, moon roofs, and soft tops that can even be removed when needful or put back on in the rain (as Jeeps and button windows). The DNA carries the genetic blueprints, and instruction to turn on this or that receptor, gene, or expression of genes (series of genes) as a switch on a vehicle does, activating and deactivating as neccessary (such a blind cave salmanders, cockroaches, (all of which have the genes for eyes) etc) depending upon the situation that the creature is in, large area lots of food, small area little food, cold, hot, light or dark, wet, dry, etc.

Through selective breeding, either wild or man-made, some genes can even be bred out, or bred in through mixed (of the same kind) breeding, but only to a point.