The Real Tribulation

PART 1 of 3

FORGET WHAT YOU HAVE HEARD FROM HOLLYWOOD AND MEN FOR A MINUTE AND LET US DISCUSS WHAT THE TRIBULATION IS AND WHAT IT IS NOT
What it is about. The tribulation is mainly about three things:
DELUSION .... DECEPTION .... HARVESTING OF SOULS

What its not about ...KILLING ...DEATH....WAR.....CHAOS....
(dont get me wrong some of this will happen but not when its commonly thought)

I know we are bombarded by Hollywood movies and the fears of Men Satan just loves when he can play upon these fears. I dont expect ANYONE to listen to me but I do expect you to clear you mind of all the images you have been shown on the movie screens and heard from the fear mongers and listen to what your Father has said of this time regardless if you think you are going to be here or not you need to learn what the tribulation is all about and what it is ...

It is true that there will be a time of trouble and there were signs we were given to watch for.

To know the the times we are living in among these signs were war and rumors of war, there will be a deadly wound, and famines, and natural disasters all these things will come to pass as written ....

HOWEVER GET THIS ONE THING STRAIGHT IN YOUR MINDS THIS IS NOT THE TRIBULATION ALL THESE THINGS WILL OCCUR BEFORE THE TRIBULATION THEY ARE THE LEAD UP TO THE TRIBULATION ...

FOR THE MOST PART ESPICALLY THE FIRST HALF THE TRIBULATION IS NOT A TIME OF KILLING ITS A TIME OF HARVESTING OF SOULS ITS A TIME OF PEACE AND PROSPARITY AND A CHICKEN IN EVERY POT AND WORLD RIVIVAL THE LIKES YOU HAVE NEVER SEEN

LET US SEE WHAT YOUR FATHER SAYS OF THIS TIME OF ANTICHRIST (SATAN) Antichrist (Satan) FIRST ACT WILL BE TO RESTORE THE ONE WORLD SYSTEM THAT MEN HAVE FAILED AT HE WILL FIX ALL THAT IS AILING US HE WILL HEAL THE DEADLY WOUND

Daniel 11:21 "And in his estate shall stand up a vile person, to whom they shall not give the honour of the kingdom: but he shall come in peaceable and obtain the kingdom by flattery's."

This is not a system, but a person. When the Antichrist (Satan) comes, there will be no war He will come as a man of peace and prosperity.

Daniel 11:24 "He shall enter peaceably even upon the fattest places of the province; and he shall do that which his fathers have not done, nor his fathers' fathers; he shall scatter among them the prey, and spoil, and riches: year, and he shall forecast his devices against the strong holds, even for a time."

DO YOU HEAR YOUR FATHER HERE ? not WAR.... NO KILLING ...NO CHOAS

ANTICHRIST (SATAN) IS HERE FOR ONE REASON AND ONE REASON ONLY HE WANTS YOUR SOUL HE WANTS YOU TO WORSHIP HIM HE WANTS TO BE GOD HE HAS ALWAYS WANTED TO BE GOD (Isa. 14) HE DOES NOT WANT YOU DEAD HE WANNTS YOU ALIVE AND BELIEVING HE IS Christ YOUR SAVIOR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! SO HOW DOES HE DO THIS HE USES DECEPTION AND DELUSION FLATTERIES

Revevelation 13:13 "And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men."Satan will snap his fingers and lightning will come down from heaven.

Satan will bring miracles, and supernatural wonders with him, and these wonders are given by God to perform the test the people of the world.

Revelation 13:14 " And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles [signs] which he had power [it was given him to do in the sight of the beast; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live.

"This is the whole object for the great tribulation. "DECEPTION"!
Satan is going to make an image of this "one world system" [religious beast] and breath life into system. Their will be something symbolic created within the system that will cause the whole world to bow.
This reminds me of the "image" created in Babylon's "one world government" under king Nebuchadnezzar, in Daniel 3. At that time there were only three that would not bow to the image.


DO YOU HAVE THIS FIXED IN YOUR MIND THIS WILL BE A PEACUFUL TIME OF MIRACLES AND WONDERS AND FLATTERIESA ONE WORLD GOVERNMENT OF PROSPARITY AND HE WILL MAKE A ONE WORLD RELIGION WHERE ALL MUSLIMS JEWS AND CHRISTIANS WILL WALK ARM AND ARM AND EMBRACE EACH OTHER ....

THIS IS THE TRIBULATION OF SATAN A DECEPTION A DELUSION A WONDERFUL TIME FOR THE WORLD ... NOT A HOLLYWOOD VERSION OF A EVIL UGLY MAN BUT A BEATIFUL KNOWLEDGABLE SUPER NATURAL ANTICHRIST (SATAN ) RULING THE WORLD AND HOLDING RIVIALS AND THW WORLD WILL LOVE HIM AND THE WHOLE WORLD WILL FOLLOW AFTER HIM AND WORSHIP HIM ........]

2Th 2:11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie

THE COST FOR ALL THIS IS YOUR VERY SOUL NOW BEFORE WE CONTINUE PLEASE FIX THIS TRUTH IN YOUR MIND YOUR FATHER WROTE YOU A LETTER TO TELL YOU THIS FOR A REASON

I will get to that dont please dont change the subject and I didnt say this your Father Did Gods Words not mine maybe you better read it again till you het his words straight in your mind you want to see miracles and wonders you are going too I promise you as my Father has written itI'M NOT ACCUSING YOU SETFREE IN ANSWER TO YOUR POST iM ASKING YOU NOT TO GET OFF TOPIC

PART2

This Wonderful World Antichrist (Satan is going create for you is a false peace Why does he do this ?

He is pretending to be Jesus Christ he is the great pretender. We are told by Mathew,Mark,Luke, that there will be Wars and rumors of Wars and a whole list of things but we are also told the End is not yet ...

Let me ask you what is the opposite of War and Rumors of Wars ?? Peace and Safety ....... When do you think you will feel the most peace and safety ??

When the Whole World thinks Jesus Christ is returned ... Then you will see peace and safety a fake peace and Safety.
What does your Father say of this

Mat 10:34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
Luk 12:51 Suppose ye that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, Nay; but rather division:
1Th 5:3 For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape.

Now lets back up a little here I hope you have this fixed firmly in your Mind by now.

The first beast in Rev. Is one World system (think U.N. type government) this attempt by men to set up a O.W. government a New World Order will fail .... the whole world will be suffering from the failure of this New World Order ....A deadly wound will seal its fate to failure ....

Enter Antichrist (Satan) He will heal the wound to the one World system he will be pretending to be our savior He will form his own One World government where all will be wonderful he does this through peace and flattery and Miracles and Wonders A great delusion a deception on all mankind ...

He then sets up a One World religion where he will have a string of lies like the World has never heard he will be claiming to the expect Messiah of all religions in the World the Muslim Mahdi, the Jewish Messiah, And Jesus Christ all religions and non religious will follow after this fake christ ,this Antichrist .......

He will sign a covenant with many ... he will promise peace and safety he will make the World prosperous. Now thing will remain wonderful until mid week (half way through the tribulation)
All will believe he is christ ..........Except ........ The two witness and the Elect and those who have the Eyes and Ears to hear the two wittiness's

Part 3

So what happens at Mid Week (middle of the tribulation)

THE ABOMINATION OF DESOLATION

What is this we are Told by the prophet Daniel that is where Antichrist Stands in the Holy of Hollies and declares himself to be God. Most of the World will believe this a be happy ...

Antichrists enemies the two witness the Elect and the over comers will preach this is a lie.
It is at this point in time that the Jews who are of true Judah are wakened from their slumber ... They know the Messiah would never claim to be the Father... It is now the Jews will realize that this is the Antichrist they will join with the two wittiness and the Elect, the over-comers ...

ITS This group and only this group are who Antichrist will want to silence ....

He isnt killing randomly ...The whole world will hate these trouble makers as much as Satan does ... He will start arresting and putting the Elect on trial

Rev 2:10 Fear none of those things which thou shalt suffer: behold, the devil shall cast [some] of you into prison, that ye may be tried; and ye shall have tribulation ten days: be thou faithful unto death, and I will give thee a crown of life.

The Elect will be put on trial Mark 13 tells us of these events The exploits are given in Mark 13:9.
It is when you are delivered up to Satan's councils to give account why you will not worship Satan. Though they try to force you, they cannot harm you.

Mark 9:10-11 tells you how you are to respond.
It will be as told in Joel 2:28 and Acts 2.

His next act is to kill the two Wittiness's Something God forbid him to do ... But the Whole World will rejoice and party for3 1/2 days at the death of these two wittiness's.

We are now within days of Christ's return

Revelation 11:7 "And when they shall have finished their testimony, the beast that ascendeth out of the bottomless pit [abyss] shall make war against them, and shall overcome them, and kill them.
"The two witnesses' purpose for being on the earth at this time, was to be a testimony against Satan, the Antichrist.
By doing this, they are also a witness to God's elect, of His Word. When this testimony is over, Satan the Antichrist will rise up and kill both of them.

Satan is the "beast out of the bottomless pit". We read this in

Revelation 9:1. When Satan kills the two witnesses, he will have taken all the conflict that he can stand by these two witness, and go against God's order to "touch not those who have the seal of God in their foreheads."

Revelation 11:8 "And their dead bodies shall lie in the street of the great city, which spiritually is called Sod'-om and E'-gypt, where also our Lord was crucified."The two witnesses' bodies will lie in the "street", which in the Greek text reads "plateia", or "broad place", which, more then likely is a stadium or a large hall in Jerusalem.

It is then that the entire world will celebrate. This also will set off a chain of events, and many of the prophecies throughout the Bible will occur in the next three and one half days.Then the two wittiness's are raised in sight of the Entire World

Revelation 11:11 "And after three days and an half the spirit [breath] of life from God entered into them, and they stood upon their feet; and great fear fell upon them which saw them."After the three and a half days, this is what happens in Jerusalem.
God will send those spiritual souls back to enter into the two rotting flesh bodies, and these two witness will stand to their feet. And as the two witnesses stood to their feet, this "paralyzing fear ["epipipto" in the Greek]" will grip the entire world, especially the Christians who have worshipped the Antichrist.

THIS IS THE END OF THIS TRIBULATION SATAN 'S TRIBULATION THE GREAT TRIBULATION IS OVER DONE FINISHED

NOW GOD TAKES OVER This BRINGS THE COMING OF LORD JESUS CHRIST AS KING OF KINGS GODS WRATH IS ABOUT TO COME UPON THE WORLD BUT ONLY TO Antichrist (SATAN)
HIS ARMIES AND HIS FOLLOWERS NOT UPON THE ELECT OR THE OVERCOMERS GOD IS ANGRY WITH HIS ENIMIES ONLY NOT A HAIR ON THE HEAD OF ANY BELIEVER WILL BE HARMED BY GODS WRATH ....GODS TRIBULATION ... UPON HIS ENEMIES

IF YOU HAVENT READ POST NUMBER ONE HERE GO BACK AND DO SO YOU CAN NOT UNDERTAND THIS TIME UNTILL YOU UNDERSTAND GODS WORDS AND THE TRUTH OF WHAT THE TRIBULATION IS

It is amazing the misconceptions people have no one hears Gods word but make a movie and christians act like its the gospel itself Sad state of affairs.

QUOTE (setfree @ Feb 25 2009, 06:49 AM)
I agree with what you have posted Christina..nothing in the other rapture thread that you closed states different.I believe in a 7 year tribulation...I believe in the first 3 1/2 years as peace and the last 3 1/2 years as God's wrath.The only difference is who are the elect, overcomers...I do not understand from your post where you stand (with scriptures) who they are. I believe them to be the Jews and the tribulation saints (those saved during this time)

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There is Not 3 1/2 years of God wrath you did not read it correctly.

Gods wrath has absoultly nothing to do with Satan tribulation it comes after remember the scripture
Mat 24:29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:

Mar 13:24 But in those days, after that tribulation, the sun shall be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, Gods wrath will probably take minutes he will make quick Work of Satan and his .... Satans tribulation is laid out in a 7 year period ....

However God shortend the time Satan would be here ... The events will happen as written, the 7 years will happen however instead of all the events being spread over 7 years time period.
God has shortened it to 5 months sometime during the seven years Rev. 9:5 an 9:10 ...He shortens it for sake of the Elect ...
Because the delusion and deception will be so great that had he not shortened the time even the Elect were it possable be taken in ...

The Elect being put on trial as I said above is described in

Mark 13:11But when they shall lead you, and deliver you up, take no thought beforehand what ye shall speak, neither do ye premeditate: but whatsoever shall be given you in that hour, that speak ye: for it is not ye that speak, but the Holy Ghost. the saints are already with God they cry out from under the alter

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QUOTE (setfree @ Feb 25 2009, 01:21 PM)
So the saints are with God under the alter? When does this happen? What is the difference between the saints and the elect? So you are saying that the seals, trumpets, and vials happen in just a minute? The beast will have power for forty and two months Rev. 13:5...not 5 month!

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No I never said anything happens in just a minute ..
42 months is 3 1/2 years they are equal ... But God has shortened the time to 5 months as we are told in Rev.9 an 10 twice for emphsis and we are told why the time is shortened ...For the sake of the Elect ...

5 months is also the same as 150 Days which is how long Noahs flood was upon the earth but the flood in last days is a flood of deception and lies ...Nothing new under the sun what was before will be again ..Thats what Father tells us ...

The saints are already there
Rev 6: They cry out from under the alter of God to be avenged ....They earned the right to reyurn with Christ to conquer SatanTHEY ARE THOSE WHO WERE MAYRTARD FOR THE LORD
(REV.6:9-12) they are given the white robes of saint hood (now I'm not saying the true church of believers which includes the Elect are not saints,

Im simply saying they are not among the maytered Saints that come with Christ at his coming in the clouds to conquer Satan as they havent earned that right by dying for Christ)The only difference is the Saints are already dead and with God they are the ones who return with Christ

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Amen to that LGF was just going to post simular thing thank you Shutin for not afraid to hear God Words Good prayers LGF

One point I would like clarify here we are told that When Christ arrives we all be changed into New incorubtable bodies

I Corinthians 15:50 "Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruptionI

Corinthians 15:51 "Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed,"Paul is now going to show us a mystery that deals with our generation, for a mystery is something that cannot be understood.

However, when the details and clues of the mystery are know, then it is no longer a mystery.
This mystery deals with a time when something is going to happen all over the earth to all flesh bodies, when these flesh bodies are not die anymore. Why will this be? Because all people living in their flesh bodies will be changed instantly from their flesh bodies, into their new incorruptible bodies.

I Corinthians 15:52 "In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed."

The time that it will take to change all the physical or natural bodies on this earth into their spiritual bodies will be faster than you can wink your eye.

It is instant. Paul is telling us that this change will come "at the last trump", and that is when there are no more trumps. He identifies that trumpet as the seventh trumpet, and we know that this is when Jesus Christ comes back to earth to establish His Millennium kingdom, right here on earth.

I bring this up because its your insuarnce policy in effect if anyone is worried about being confused by the delusion of who is the real and who is that fake christ remember these Words We will be changed in twinkling of an eye ....

So if you are still in your flesh body can pinch yourself so to speak ... The true Christ is not here yet ..