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  1. Copperhead

    Soon to be fulfilled Prophesies

    Well, I do keep some stuff around for general emergency stuff like weather and other stuff that could crop up. And I already live rural, it is 12 miles to any of three small towns around me, and I have guns and ammo for general protection and some hunting requirements and general target shooing...
  2. Copperhead

    Soon to be fulfilled Prophesies

    Read the accounts of the Holocaust victims. And I am not convinced any "doomsday" prepper stuff will make a bit of difference and is just wasted effort and wishful thinking. A really good work on the spiritual realm and the war that is going on is Dr. Michael Heiser's book "Supernatural" and...
  3. Copperhead

    Soon to be fulfilled Prophesies

    I can see that applying to the general tribulation that we all may face, but for that specific period I don't. And I think it is matter of ecclesiology as opposed to eschatology. Rather a combination of the two. A misunderstanding of what constitutes the church and what the GT period purpose...
  4. Copperhead

    Soon to be fulfilled Prophesies

    Hippolytus, a student of Irenaeus who was a student of Polycarp who was a student of the Apostle John, used Isaiah in his treatise of the removal of the righteous before the period starts.... Isaiah 26:20-21 (NKJV) Come, my people, enter your chambers, And shut your doors behind you; Hide...
  5. Copperhead

    Soon to be fulfilled Prophesies

    And how would you prepare for the totality of what is coming? Yeshua (Jesus) said that many go into fatal cardiac arrest just seeing what is coming upon the earth. Add up WWI, WW II, the Inquisition, and a host of other significant bad events, and what is coming eclipses all of them, including...
  6. Copperhead

    Soon to be fulfilled Prophesies

    Well, that is a bit of a stretch. Discussing back and forth on these things should be encouraged. If nothing else, it presents the case for various eschatological positions for those who have not invested much time into researching it out and they can see the various pros and cons as others see...
  7. Copperhead

    Soon to be fulfilled Prophesies

    That comment was in response to yours about "it seems a majority of Christians have bought into the 'rapture' idea". There is no way on the earth that could even be remotely true. After you stated it, I decided to look at some various stats that have been done on various questions of...
  8. Copperhead

    Soon to be fulfilled Prophesies

    You didn't even get the point I was trying to make. Sad.
  9. Copperhead

    Soon to be fulfilled Prophesies

    I would assert that the majority of Christians don't hold a pre-trib view. It is probably more a minority. Most of the mainstream major churches are Amillennial. Certainly the RCC, Anglican Church, Eastern Orthodox are, as are many other major denominations. The World Council of Churches...
  10. Copperhead

    Soon to be fulfilled Prophesies

    I always liked to say that, as pre-trib myself, I will be happy to explain it as we are all going up! I heard a Christian comedian one time say that he would grab an unbeliever and as they are going up, ask them whether they now wanted to believe in Jesus or should he let go! I actually have...
  11. Copperhead

    Soon to be fulfilled Prophesies

    While watching a Michael Heiser teaching seminar online at YouTube, he made a point that I think it apropos. He really doesn't put much of his focus on eschatology and doesn't really jump on any one eschatological band wagon as he is more focused on early manuscripts and such, but he made a...
  12. Copperhead

    Soon to be fulfilled Prophesies

    Now that makes no sense. If it is "Satan's lie", then why does he expend so much time and energy trying to explain it away? Read some of what New Age channelers and others write. They go to great lengths to explain this disappearance away. If it was of Satan, then there would be ample...
  13. Copperhead

    Soon to be fulfilled Prophesies

    I would counter the reverse... you don't see it even though it is there. We have gone back and forth on this. I see it even if you do not. And it seems the early church writers as well as some fo the Essene scrolls from Qumran show that they did as well. Some of those scrolls given mention...
  14. Copperhead

    Soon to be fulfilled Prophesies

    According to the Book of Enoch, the earliest copies we have dated to 1-2 centuries before Yeshua's first advent, one of the primary reasons of the removal is a sign to the people of the earth to shake them up to reality and cause some to repent and turn to the Lord. I find it fascinating that...
  15. Copperhead

    Soon to be fulfilled Prophesies

    Well, there is a specific geography that is reserved for Yahweh, but the nations were divided according to the number of their gods (elohim). When Adam abdicated his authority, via his fall, to subdue the earth and have authority over it given to him by Yahweh, the earth became the possession...
  16. Copperhead

    Soon to be fulfilled Prophesies

    Thanks for reminding me that I need not pay attention to what your position is. Great application of that verse!
  17. Copperhead

    Rapture Day (Catching up of Believers) is very Near!!

    You might want to take that to heart. Most all of what you have posted is counter to the anti-nicene church writers. Justin Martyr (Dialogue with Trypho, 160AD).... For if you have fallen in with some who are called Christians, but who do not admit this [truth] and venture to blaspheme the...
  18. Copperhead

    Rapture Day (Catching up of Believers) is very Near!!

    And now we finally get down to the nitty gritty. Affect my future status. My future status is only thru Messiah. I am redeemed.... bought and paid for. My status is in the Lord. I have already passed from death to life. You seem to imply that eschatology is a condition of...
  19. Copperhead

    Rapture Day (Catching up of Believers) is very Near!!

    You just can't help yourself can you? When the discussion is not going how you like it, you feel the need to demean others. You really need to get a handle on that. It is not in keeping with the gifts of the Spirit.
  20. Copperhead

    Rapture Day (Catching up of Believers) is very Near!!

    No trumpet mentioned in that passage. You are applying your idea of what the last trump is to that passage and there is no connection. There is not a trumpet even mentioned or alluded to in the entire chapter.